The Hot Mess Medium Show Ep. 18 Spooky Paranormal Storytime with Natashia & Lauren
Hey guys! I am SOOOO excited to finally have my bestie, Lauren a.k.a. Ren on the show for our first ever, Spooky Paranormal Storytime episode!
In this episode:
We reminisce & look back on the beginning of my Spiritual journey and the big part that Lauren played in it.
How paranormal experiences happen with your Clairs
Lauren shares her childhood paranormal experience with her deceased grandfather
How children are wide-open, sensitive little messengers for the Spirit world and some of the struggles they can face
Shedding light on some of the harm, fear & misconceptions that scary movies can cause
Lauren's spooky paranormal experience with a copy-cat spirit (and getting tucked into bed by a spirit?) In her dad's old home that is known for busy paranormal activity
How information feels as it's coming through your Psychic Clairs
I share about my childhood homemade ouija board experience for the first time ever
The importance of setting boundaries & being in your power (vs feeding fear) when it comes to paranormal experiences
Some tips for parents who have young, highly-sensitive children who are scared in the night
Lauren shares about her sleep paralysis experience
-& how her past bitterness towards Valentine's day manifested into a vivid dream of the Valentine's Day Massacre (and *may* be connected to a past life??)
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Transcript
00:00:03 Medium Natashia Mack
Hey, guys. Welcome back to the hot mess medium show. I am super duper Ultra Mega excited to for you to be listening to this right now because I have my best friend, my BFF forever and ever and ever is here on this episode. I'm super pumped.
00:00:23 Medium Natashia Mack
We are going to be talking all things paranormal and this is probably we already decided probably going to be like, you know, there's a series like there's going to be multiple parts because.
00:00:34 Medium Natashia Mack
I I just know it's going to be so much fun and I'm so grateful to Ren. I'm going to call her when her name is Lauren. She's going to introduce herself in just a moment, but I'm so grateful to her that she, you know, came up with the idea to come on. And because I had put it out in my stories, like, OK, I want to start having more conversations about, like.
00:00:55 Medium Natashia Mack
Paranormal experiences, whether it be.
00:00:59 Medium Natashia Mack
Experiences with like an Angel you know showing up on your path or your past loved ones, or glitches in the matrix, or those experience where where you're like, thank God. I trust my intuition and I do have a place like a spot on my website where you can actually submit your story. So just kind of plugging that in there because I want more stories.
00:01:19 Medium Natashia Mack
To share which run and I already talked about.
00:01:22 Medium Natashia Mack
We're gonna. We're gonna do some episodes where we're where we read your stories, so please submit those stories on the website, please. And thank you. So anyways.
00:01:35 Medium Natashia Mack
Ren, please introduce yourself to my people. I'm so excited for them to meet you.
00:01:40 Lauren
Hi everyone. Hi, audience. Hi, Tash. I know her name is Natasha or the hot mess medium. But I'm going to call her Tash because that's what I've called her forever. My name is Lauren. I'm her best friend of a million years. But you can call me Ren. And I'm so honored to be on the show. Finally, because I've been listening to it. And just.
00:02:00 Lauren
So eager to be part of it for an episode or a couple maybe.
00:02:05 Lauren
So yeah, thanks for having me.
00:02:07 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm so excited you're here, and I know that we're going to have so much fun. And before we actually hit record, I was telling Ren, like, oh, my God, people are going to hear a different side of me. They're going to like.
00:02:20 Lauren
Brace yourselves.
00:02:22 Medium Natashia Mack
Because when I'm, you know when.
00:02:23 Medium Natashia Mack
You're just like with that person who bring who just.
00:02:26 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, it brings out those parts of you that you would typically keep at Bay or on a leash, you know, name.
00:02:36 Medium Natashia Mack
To run, you know, with her, it's like I'm just sitting. I'm just so open. I'm like, yeah, I'm just so much more open. And I feel so safe and secure within who I am and free to be myself. So.
00:02:50 Medium Natashia Mack
And then you know, I'm assuming it's safe to say.
00:02:53 Medium Natashia Mack
The same for you.
00:02:54 Lauren
Definitely. Likewise, you know, as someone who works in a very corporate background, I'm an HVAC sales lady.
00:03:02 Medium Natashia Mack
You would never know this by the way, by looking at at Ren. She's like a girly girl flower power diva like shimmer sparkle like all the things. OK, you would never know.
00:03:14 Lauren
Yeah, I know, but I have a very boring day job. A muggle job, if you will. And but I shared, like, a lot of my paranormal or spooky or spiritual experiences with.
00:03:27 Lauren
Gosh, and I've always been obviously safe to be myself around her and share all that stuff with her too. So this is just perfect that I get to kind of share with the wider audience, but with the comfort and protection of my BFF right beside me.
00:03:44 Medium Natashia Mack
Exactly. And I love that you brought that up because.
00:03:48 Medium Natashia Mack
You guys, Ren is actually the one who introduced me to spirituality. I'm not even kidding. Oh, and I I have chills like talking about it, but I remember years and years ago before I even knew I was a medium. I think this was after the birth of my second child, which that was way back in, like 2011.
00:04:08 Medium Natashia Mack
She actually gave me a book. She gave me the secret.
00:04:13 Medium Natashia Mack
And yeah, you gave me that. I know. And I had put off reading it for a long time, but eventually did read it, and it really opened me up to just exploring other possibilities. And, you know, shifting my mindset into a more +1, things like that and like also opened me up to, like, manifestation, obviously.
00:04:15 Lauren
I don't even remember that.
00:04:34 Medium Natashia Mack
Movie.
00:04:34 Medium Natashia Mack
But then I don't know if you remember this. When I first discovered I was a medium and started to like open up to medium ship and I was like scared like I had so much fear. You guys like crippling fear and you recommended.
00:04:52 Medium Natashia Mack
What's her name? To have her reading with? We still read her things. She channels are Kendra Gabriel.
00:05:00 Lauren
Oh, Shelly young.
00:05:01 Medium Natashia Mack
Shelley Young, OK, so ran recommended. I do a reading with Shelley Young. OK, this woman channels Archangel Gabriel and she's incredible. You guys have to go check her out. I don't know if she goes by Shelley Young or if she goes under another name because she does daily channeling.
00:05:17 Lauren
I I find her on YouTube or on Facebook under Shelley Young.
00:05:22 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh, OK yeah, perfect.
00:05:22 Lauren
Or Trinity Esoterics is her her business.
00:05:26 Medium Natashia Mack
That's what it is. Yeah, I think that might be what her handle is on.
00:05:29 Lauren
OK.
00:05:30 Medium Natashia Mack
Him so she shares like daily or almost daily readings like channelings from Archangel Gabriel. And they're very beautiful and so anyways, I remember I was like, OK, I'm going to book a session and I'm pretty sure this was my first reading ever.
00:05:47 Medium Natashia Mack
Way yes. And I did not know what to expect and.
00:05:52 Medium Natashia Mack
I I remember going into it being like, OK, like I just I need answers. I need to. I need that validation. I need to know that like I'm on the right track and that.
00:06:01 Medium Natashia Mack
I just needed to ease some of that fear. And anyways, I remember.
00:06:07 Medium Natashia Mack
She was like.
00:06:09 Medium Natashia Mack
Wow, you are already perfectly aligned with Archangel Michael.
00:06:16 Medium Natashia Mack
Like she was the one who told me that. And I was like what? Like she's like, yeah, you have like your your channel is already like you already have a direct channel to Archangel Michael.
00:06:29 Medium Natashia Mack
Wow, I was like ohh, I got chills again talking about it and that's how my journey started with communicating with Archangel Michael and I used to and not a lot of people don't know this, but I used to channel.
00:06:41 Medium Natashia Mack
Like messages from Archangel Michael, what was so crazy? I don't know if you remember some.
00:06:46 Medium Natashia Mack
Of them run but like.
00:06:49 Medium Natashia Mack
His language was not his language. The words he used were so different than what the words I would use and right and some of the things that would come through.
00:07:03 Medium Natashia Mack
Like it would take me a while, I'd have to read it a few times to fully understand, like the depth of the message. Like they're so deep all the time. Look up the meaning of words because you know the definition of certain words that you were channeling girly problems. So true. I mean, I still do that. But yeah, with his words.
00:07:11 Lauren
I remember you would.
00:07:14
English.
00:07:19 Lauren
My leg.
00:07:25 Medium Natashia Mack
They were like big words that I was like, these are really old school words that we don't use nowadays. Like I wouldn't use that word, but it makes sense that he would. And I had even, you know, channeled him.
00:07:40 Medium Natashia Mack
Like.
00:07:41 Medium Natashia Mack
During like readings for other people and and I just remember him being a huge part of my journey but anyways.
00:07:48 Medium Natashia Mack
I feel like I went in a totally different direction, but it feels important, you know, to to mention that basically you were just like a huge part of my journey and you introduced me to so many things. And your dad even introduced me to so many things. Like, I remember being in the trailer and he's talking about like.
00:08:02
Hi.
00:08:08 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh my gosh.
00:08:10 Lauren
Past life regressions had that altar set up, and he still hasn't altered to this day where he'll have his little knickknacks. Now he has a pyramid that he bought out in Egypt, but at the time he had a wolf head pelt like a fur, some quartz crystals, some rose.
00:08:12 Medium Natashia Mack
Yes.
00:08:30 Lauren
Towards he was always burning incense when we'd have our sleepovers. That would be the smell that would wake us up. So we were like, exposed to some spirituality pretty young.
00:08:41 Medium Natashia Mack
Right. And yeah. And I had never heard of these things through anyone else, even him talking about.
00:08:48 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh, where did it go? Atlantis. Sorry. And Edgar Casey, he was the first person to mention Edgar Casey to me and all these things and just kind of opened my mind because, you know, born and raised.
00:08:50
Oh.
00:09:01 Medium Natashia Mack
Catholic and just kind of only seeing that side of things or you know being.
00:09:08 Medium Natashia Mack
Exposed to to that, it was really cool to then, you know. See that wool? There's like so much more, right? So. But I didn't actually get spiritual until.
00:09:15 Lauren
Oh for sure.
00:09:19 Lauren
Yeah, like kind of was awakened within you and you kind of were, like, dragged kicking and screaming into your awakening, which became your whole life path, which is so significant. Yeah.
00:09:20 Lauren
It.
00:09:30 Medium Natashia Mack
Which is crazy. Absolutely. And I just love that. Like you knew me before and during and now. And that's so cool.
00:09:40 Lauren
He's always been a super cute nerd. You guys worry about that.
00:09:45 Medium Natashia Mack
I just love you and like I also got to mention to you guys that like Wren is so friggin connected to she's so intuitive she has given me some of the best readings I've ever had. I'm not even kidding. I still remember like a healing session that you did for me. And like we're very telepathic with each other.
00:10:06 Medium Natashia Mack
Which is so cool all the time. Yeah, we're super connected.
00:10:06 Lauren
All the time.
00:10:09 Lauren
When I'm hungry, I tell you, when you're hungry, you tell me and we just end up at a.
00:10:14 Medium Natashia Mack
Drive through. Yeah, exactly so.
00:10:19 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, now that people got a good sense of, you know.
00:10:23 Medium Natashia Mack
Who you are and all of that I want to. I would. I would love if you could now share some of your stories, because that's what we're going to do. We're going to kind of go back and forth and share some of our paranormal stories.
00:10:39 Lauren
And yeah, for sure, go ahead.
00:10:42 Medium Natashia Mack
No, I was just gonna say like, which one do you feel called to share first? I'm super excited to hear about them, even though I probably already heard them. But like, it's gonna feel like I heard them, I'm hearing.
00:10:51 Lauren
Them for the first time. I'm really excited. Yeah, for sure. I think just segue on what you said by me being slightly, you know, open to spirit as well. And having third eye open.
00:11:02 Lauren
A lot of my paranormal experiences were experienced with my Claires. It hasn't always been like a ghost walks through the door, you know, everyone who's had paranormal experiences could probably resonate with that. It's kind of a mixture of your claires and the, you know.
00:11:22 Lauren
Physical environment that you're in at the time, whether it's.
00:11:27 Lauren
You know broad daylight and you're wide awake, or you're somewhere between sleep and awakeness.
00:11:34 Lauren
That's kind of where I've experienced mine my earliest I don't remember, but my parents remember part of me I used to see my deceased grandfather when I was two years old.
00:11:50 Lauren
My family would tell me that I would watch someone go across the room and I would laugh and I would interact with someone who wasn't.
00:12:00 Lauren
There and eventually I was able to speak and I called this person the man because I had no point of reference to who he was. But my family knew that I seemed happy when this person was around, so they paid no mind.
00:12:17 Lauren
Until my mother saw a psychic and this psychic told her that.
00:12:23
But.
00:12:24 Lauren
Her youngest child, which was me, was seeing her stepdad who passed away, so his name was Papa Charles and he had passed before I was born. And I guess he lingered around and the psychic had other evidence that.
00:12:41 Lauren
Would show it to be Papa Charles. Things he would say things that they shared in common and.
00:12:49 Lauren
Yeah, she had confirmed that I was seeing Papa Charles. And then later on, my mom was showing me a photo album that I had never seen before. Old photos when she was a teenager growing up before I was born. And she told me that as she turned the page to a picture of Papa Charles, I pointed right at him. I said that's the man.
00:13:11 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh my God.
00:13:14 Lauren
And yeah, The funny thing about this is we were living in the small yellow house and we were planning on moving to the Victorian house that we lived on on the highway.
00:13:26 Lauren
The psychic told my mother. When you move house, he is going to leave you be. He will move on and not follow you houses. And I remember visiting the house with the realtor and my parents. And they allowed us to run room to room and check out the house. And I remember.
00:13:47 Lauren
Running to every room in the house and running back downstairs to my parents. I don't remember that I told them this, but I said the man isn't.
00:13:57 Lauren
Here.
00:13:59 Lauren
Ohh my. Yeah, well I guess I was looking for him. Which is, which is really crazy. So I had a lot of experiences as a child.
00:14:04 Medium Natashia Mack
Wow.
00:14:11 Medium Natashia Mack
Yes.
00:14:11 Lauren
That that prove that you know spirit is real.
00:14:16 Medium Natashia Mack
Absolutely. And I love that.
00:14:18 Medium Natashia Mack
You shared that too, because it's true.
00:14:22 Medium Natashia Mack
Children are the closest things to heaven. They're so much more open, like wide open, right, and they have a lot of experiences up to about the age of four that you know, there's so much more intuitive. There's so much more in tune, and they're very, you know, they're able to see, I would say, like, the veil is thinner.
00:14:42 Medium Natashia Mack
With them, they're able to see and connect with past loved ones, be little messengers, you know and.
00:14:47 Medium Natashia Mack
I love that.
00:14:49 Medium Natashia Mack
I love that.
00:14:49 Medium Natashia Mack
This was a comforting experience for you as a child. You know the fact that the man here, Papa Charles, ended up being sort of like a comfort for you at the time. And you, you had this relationship with him even though he had passed before you were born. Which just goes to show that our loved ones do get to know.
00:15:10 Medium Natashia Mack
You know our our babies, even before they come Earth side, cause a lot of people say like, oh, I wish, you know, they could have met or, you know, whatever, but you guys did meet and that's so beautiful. And then yeah, typically after the age of 4 is when things start to the connection starts to dwindle.
00:15:26 Medium Natashia Mack
Down after that. But I yeah, I love that you shared that. That's such a beautiful story when.
00:15:31 Lauren
Thank you. And yeah, I think it was also a huge comfort to my mom as she had, you know, been missing her dad and concerned about moving forward without him. And then she got to, you know, be reminded that he was still around and he was still watching over us and kids being, you know, wide open is something that you've observed in your own.
00:15:52 Lauren
Kids with your 4 kids.
00:15:56 Medium Natashia Mack
Over friendly.
00:15:57 Lauren
Over the past couple of years as well.
00:16:00 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, what a wild experience it is to be on the other side of that to be like. So I had experiences with spirit as a child, as you know. But then to be a parent and having your children having experiences with spirit is a completely different thing.
00:16:18 Medium Natashia Mack
You know, I've had my son come running into my bedroom in the middle of the night saying, uh, there's a ghost in my room. Like, just super casually, like, just like it's a normal thing. I'm like, OK, so I go in there and he was actually describing an orb of light, like how there was a.
00:16:38 Medium Natashia Mack
Person. But then he was seeing this orb of light and he was describing it in everything, and I can't remember the specific details, but I just thought that was so fascinating. And then my oldest, you know, she had many experiences too with this.
00:16:55 Medium Natashia Mack
With this little girl, who would, you know, want to play with her in the night? And, like, you know, would kind of be bugging her but so innocently, but we actually discovered that that was the baby that I had miscarried prior to conceiving my second oldest child.
00:17:14 Medium Natashia Mack
Who I know was a little girl I had named her Charlotte and she started showing up for my oldest daughter, even though, like I had never.
00:17:23 Medium Natashia Mack
Or.
00:17:24 Medium Natashia Mack
Explained any of that to her, you know, so that was, that was really neat too. And of course, you know, after my Papa passed away, they were all having experiences with him as well. And it's just, I don't know, it's just so comforting. Yeah. Sometimes it's like freaky because you're like, ah, like, what does this mean? It's my house.
00:17:42 Medium Natashia Mack
Or whatever, but no, it's it's very comforting to know that, you know, our loved ones are still are still watching over our little ones and everything.
00:17:54 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah. And then as like, I loved how you expressed how.
00:17:58 Medium Natashia Mack
Everyone's experience is different, like and how you experience spirit like you're talking about. The chairs and everything. And I know, like when I think back to my experiences as a child with spirit, it was always like a lot of clear sentience. Like I would feel them. I would just feel their presence, right or I would feel a poke.
00:18:19 Medium Natashia Mack
I would feel cold air like those sorts of things and just kind of know like, OK, someone is here. Yeah. It wasn't always like.
00:18:29 Medium Natashia Mack
A full body.
00:18:30 Medium Natashia Mack
Experience like there's a whole person in front of.
00:18:33 Medium Natashia Mack
Me although I.
00:18:33 Medium Natashia Mack
Have physically with my eyes, seen spirits walking by and things like that. Most of the time, especially in the night, it was more of like I could hear them like I would. I could. I would wake up to someone whispering my name for example, or like I would, I would feel pokes on my arm.
00:18:50 Medium Natashia Mack
Or again, I would just kind of feel them so.
00:18:52 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah. Oh, you're just so good. Friends. So good at storytelling. You guys like she always has been. And I'm just.
00:18:58 Medium Natashia Mack
I just love it.
00:18:59 Medium Natashia Mack
So share another one.
00:18:59 Lauren
I love story 24. You.
00:19:03 Medium Natashia Mack
Please tell me more. Tell us more.
00:19:05 Lauren
Well, and something I want to mention too is how you said your son would come in and describe an experience he was having.
00:19:12 Lauren
Like it was so normal. And it's true to them that it is so normal and natural because they haven't been commissioned or conditioned to believe otherwise yet, or to be embarrassed to share those kind of experiences stories with others.
00:19:26 Medium Natashia Mack
Yes, I love that you just shared that because when I think back to having those experiences of being so afraid.
00:19:35 Medium Natashia Mack
I didn't go to my parents like I didn't talk about those things. I kept them to myself and I was so afraid I would often turn on the light and sleep with the lights on because I was so afraid of the dark. Oh my God and I.
00:19:50 Medium Natashia Mack
Know so many people.
00:19:51 Medium Natashia Mack
Can relate to that. I was so scared of the light or sorry.
00:19:51 Lauren
Thank you.
00:19:55 Lauren
I still AM.
00:19:55
There's.
00:19:55 Medium Natashia Mack
The dark. Yes. Oh, my God. Still, I'm. Yeah. Still for the dark that I would sleep in the bathroom on the floor with the light.
00:20:02 Medium Natashia Mack
One on a towel. That's like how I would sleep just to kind of help me get through the night because I was just so afraid. But I didn't know how to communicate it or how to talk about it like.
00:20:14 Medium Natashia Mack
I didn't know.
00:20:17 Medium Natashia Mack
That I could even talk about. It's so weird to think back at that, like remembering those experiences, but just not remembering ever talking about them. So yeah, I love that you mentioned that, and I think that's an important thing for my listeners to note, who have kids who maybe are very sensitive and are having these experiences. I think it's so important to.
00:20:37 Medium Natashia Mack
Be open to hearing them out and you know to not make them afraid of.
00:20:40 Medium Natashia Mack
That or to not, you know, make them feel bad about it or anything like that, right?
00:20:46 Lauren
Absolutely yes. And I hope that that will help.
00:20:51 Lauren
Many kids grow into, you know, adults who aren't afraid to share those experiences either cause it's a taboo subject because some believe and some don't. So yeah, here we are trying to share anyways.
00:21:04 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, because I ended up being like a grown *** woman, being terrified like.
00:21:10 Medium Natashia Mack
So the experiences I was having, but also just to like talk about it to come out, you know, as as a spiritual person even was really scary. That was like.
00:21:21 Medium Natashia Mack
Like even just coming out as a spiritual person, not even.
00:21:24 Medium Natashia Mack
As a medium, you know that felt very scary.
00:21:28 Lauren
Absolutely. And also normalizing it and talking about it kind of shows how we all share experiences and how they're really not as scary as we expect them to be. I think the only way.
00:21:40 Lauren
A lot of us are exposed to, you know, paranormal experiences are in the movies, which are dramaticized and are made to terrify you and are so gory, you know, and.
00:21:52 Lauren
Although I've had very scary experiences, they've never been harmful or similar to, you know, the Hollywood depiction.
00:22:02 Medium Natashia Mack
Yes, I can't fully say that unfortunately true.
00:22:05
Sure.
00:22:07 Medium Natashia Mack
I do have.
00:22:08 Medium Natashia Mack
One experience that felt very similar, but aside from that, I completely agree. Also side note, I do not watch scary movies, cannot, will not.
00:22:22
No.
00:22:23 Medium Natashia Mack
I just can't handle them, although I will say on Monday, Ryan, my husband and I, we did go and watch.
00:22:31 Medium Natashia Mack
The new final destination movie it was actually so good, but I had to. I had to close my eyes like a child, like 90% of the time because it was just too glory. But it was really good.
00:22:36 Lauren
No, wait.
00:22:43 Lauren
Oh yeah.
00:22:45
Uh.
00:22:46 Medium Natashia Mack
But yeah, I totally agree. Like, I feel like the way that Hollywood.
00:22:51 Medium Natashia Mack
Shows like paranormal stuff. It's just so terrifying, and it brings so much fear and it causes a lot of people to just be super closed off right because they think like ohh that's.
00:23:03 Medium Natashia Mack
All that, yeah, for sure. So yeah, I'm glad that you brought.
00:23:07 Medium Natashia Mack
That up, yeah.
00:23:09 Lauren
For sure, and I don't watch horror movies either, although I have a sick fascination with legends and lore, and you know, other people's paranormal story times. I've been listening to them on YouTube for years, but if it's dark out, you won't.
00:23:15 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, same.
00:23:23 Lauren
Catch me? It'll be daytime and that's it.
00:23:26 Medium Natashia Mack
I was even telling Ryan this morning that we were going to be doing this and he's like.
00:23:32 Medium Natashia Mack
I don't understand you. Like you will not watch scary movies, but you're gonna you know you love talking about paranormal stuff. And I'm like, that's different. Like, movies are just so exaggerated. And you're, like, seeing it. And it's super scary. But then I don't know. There's just something about.
00:23:51 Medium Natashia Mack
Talking about real experiences that which is.
00:23:55 Medium Natashia Mack
It's so fascinating. Exactly. It's like how there's a lot of women who can't watch scary movies, but.
00:24:03 Medium Natashia Mack
And they only listen to true crime, and they like, fall asleep to true crime. Crime. It's like it's real and it should be even more scary, but for some reason, it's like comforting to people in a weird way. So I'm the same way when it comes to paranormal stuff. The same. It's just that sick fascination. It's like a taboo subject that we're.
00:24:19
Hey.
00:24:23 Lauren
Not allowed to talk about and we just want to like our curiosity is picked by it, right.
00:24:28 Medium Natashia Mack
Yes. And it's so true, like I've, you know, one of the intentions I had for this podcast was to talk about stuff like this. But it just. Yes. I've heard stories from, like, other mediums and their origin stories. And, you know, their experiences and stuff. But I have yet to really, like, dive deeper into this stuff. So I'm really excited for, like, where this is going to go.
00:24:51 Lauren
Oh, me too. I have, like, an idea that maybe we should do a Halloween special.
00:24:55 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh, that would be fun.
00:24:59 Lauren
With that, but OK, so I've got one for you.
00:25:01 Medium Natashia Mack
OK.
00:25:03 Medium Natashia Mack
Go for it.
00:25:03 Lauren
It'll be a little freaky. Well, the first one isn't, but the second one is. OK, so I moved into my dad's throat my college years, so I spent four years there, you know, three years in college and about a year after I graduated. And he lives in this old home.
00:25:06 Medium Natashia Mack
OK.
00:25:22 Lauren
That was built in like the early 1900s.
00:25:25 Lauren
And we suspect it might have been a doctor's home or an engineers home because it's close to the train tracks here in our city and it's it's pretty big for early 1900s. It's a brick home. It's beautiful. And every single person that has lived in that home since I have.
00:25:45 Lauren
Has experienced something paranormal, so.
00:25:48 Medium Natashia Mack
I believe it. Yeah, the vibes in that home I've been in there. It's an old *** home, you guys. Beautiful. But you could just feel that there's so much history in that home. Like, it just feels like there's been so.
00:25:50 Lauren
You've been in there.
00:26:03 Medium Natashia Mack
Much energy in there from different times, like so many energetic imprints, yes. Traffic. Yes, yes. And all these like different energetic imprints from the years. So it's just yeah, it's really cool.
00:26:07 Lauren
Traffic like traffic, yes.
00:26:17 Lauren
Oh, it's so cool. And my dad is a long haul trucker and he rents rooms out to tenants. So there's a big turnover of people who live there and move out and people who are open and have had experience before and those who were completely closed off have been awakened to, you know, a whole different reality.
00:26:36 Lauren
Leaving that home.
00:26:38 Lauren
And over the years, what we've surmised is that potentially there may be like a theory we have is like a portal from the basement to the roof, through the chimney area.
00:26:49 Medium Natashia Mack
I totally believe in portals and old homes, and I even have a story for later, but I want to hear this. Oh, my God. Yes, I believe that.
00:26:55 Lauren
Yes, because yeah, yeah, it's like the home itself has old energy, but it also has.
00:27:02 Lauren
A fast turnover of different energetic imprints. It's almost as if things move through it often too, so you'll feel the presence of a certain spirit or an energy, you know, frequency for a while, and then it will be gone.
00:27:06
Oh.
00:27:21 Lauren
My dad specifically has always felt the imprint of like a little boy living in the home who sits near the stair.
00:27:28 Lauren
Years, but there are so many different ghosties in that house. One in particular would mimic the voices and the sounds of other people. So to explain, explain the house my my dad was living in the basement. I was living in the only bedroom on the main floor.
00:27:50 Lauren
And there were three tenants upstairs in the three bedrooms and the bathroom that I used was on the top floor as well.
00:27:58 Lauren
So if I woke up in the middle of the night, I would have to go up the stairs to use the washroom and come back down. Of course I would run down as fast as possible and jump into bed and being scared of the dark.
00:28:10 Medium Natashia Mack
Wait, when did we stop doing that?
00:28:14 Lauren
Yeah, no one does that anymore, like.
00:28:15 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, totally. I mean that's.
00:28:17 Lauren
Totally a brave Stairmaster.
00:28:18 Lauren
Yeah, totally. But one night I was using the washroom late at night and I come out. The house was dead quiet before I went in. And as I'm coming down the stairs, I could hear my dad.
00:28:33 Lauren
Dad, who I thought was my dad laughing so loud, and it sounded like a muffled version of his voice on the phone. Like when he would be speaking to a relative, speaking really loudly and laughing his **** off. And I was kind of, like, weirded out. Like, why is my dad just laughing?
00:28:53 Lauren
Hysterically over the phone like this on a weeknight, everyone's asleep and I'm coming down the stairs, coming down the stairs. It's getting louder and louder. I open the door to the basement, which is where he's sleeping. I come down 3 or 4 stairs and I'm saying, you know, Dad, to try to be like what? Who are you talking to? What's going on in the middle of?
00:29:13 Lauren
Dead quiet. He was asleep with his breathing machine on his seat.
00:29:18 Lauren
My God.
00:29:22 Lauren
Oh, so freaky. So he wakes up, takes off his mask, turns on the light and he says what's wrong? And I said, well, hurry wearing you on the phone, you know, laughing really loud. And he just kind of looked at me knowing that I was experiencing something paranormal. It was the copycat.
00:29:38 Lauren
Boys in the house and I slept on a cot beside his bed, down in the basement that night.
00:29:44 Lauren
I didn't want to go upstairs all alone.
00:29:47 Medium Natashia Mack
Ohh gosh, I don't blame you. Yeah. Wow.
00:29:51 Lauren
That was freaky. And then I had my own experience in the house again. I was in my bedroom on the main floor. I would sleep with my my door closed and about 10 feet away from my bed was a trunk, a wooden trunk, and I would have those folded.
00:30:10 Lauren
These blankets on my trunk.
00:30:14 Lauren
That night, in particular, my dad was sleeping in his room downstairs, and my boyfriend at the time had been renting a room off my father and he was up in his room upstairs. Yes, we weren't allowed to sleep together in the same bed, even though we were in our late teens, we were trying to be respectful, so I'm asleep.
00:30:33 Lauren
In the middle of the night, I wake up cold and so I slip out of bed and I walk towards my trunk to grab one of my blankets.
00:30:43 Lauren
But there's someone standing there holding my blanket.
00:30:48 Lauren
And in that half asleep, half awake feeling that I was in, I just thought, OK, well, they've got me covered. So I turn around, I get back in bed, I lie down and I see someone throw the throw up and it it just lands on me in a perfect square.
00:31:08 Lauren
From the foot of my bed.
00:31:10 Lauren
And.
00:31:12 Lauren
Went back to sleep, slept soundly. The next morning I wake up. The throw is still on my duvet's perfect square. And I'm thinking to myself, who came in and tucked me in last night. My door was still closed, so I thought maybe my boyfriend knew that I was cold in the middle of the night, so came tucked me in.
00:31:32 Lauren
I asked him. He said no, I don't do that. And then I thought Dad did, did you come and tuck me in for some reason? He said. I would never go in your room. You sleep with your room or your door closed. So I don't know who tucked me in that night, but.
00:31:47 Lauren
It never happened again.
00:31:49 Medium Natashia Mack
Wow, I wonder if it was the man. I wonder if it was your mom. A child?
00:31:54 Lauren
I I don't know. I had a feminine energy feeling from it.
00:31:58 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh.
00:31:58 Medium Natashia Mack
Ohk OK and see, I love that you just like, have that feeling right? Like sometimes just like, yeah, you just know or just have that impression that like, oh, it's giving me more of like a feminine vibe or.
00:32:13 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm asking vibe.
00:32:13 Lauren
Yeah. Oh, for sure. And like I do encourage anyone who's listening in your next, you know, paranormal.
00:32:20 Lauren
Experience you might not be able to think of it in the moment, but afterwards try to lean into it and and get adjust for.
00:32:27 Lauren
The the vibe of the person or the animal or the spirit who came through, you know, maybe you could lean either which way and kind of discover who it could be.
00:32:38 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, because sometimes it's just.
00:32:41 Medium Natashia Mack
It's about.
00:32:43 Medium Natashia Mack
What's the word like like? I love how you said, like leaning in.
00:32:47 Medium Natashia Mack
I think that's what you said, but like.
00:32:50 Medium Natashia Mack
Wondering and getting curious about like who? Yeah. What happened? Who was it? Because that's kind of how it is for me even, you know, like, yesterday leading up to a session. I was about to do.
00:32:55 Lauren
What happened just there?
00:33:05 Medium Natashia Mack
I.
00:33:07 Medium Natashia Mack
I could feel a lot of things happening in my body and I had to, just like, take a moment to be like, OK, is this even mine? And that's when I knew, like, no, I actually do feel like there is a spirit around, and I feel like they're going to, you know, come through during the reading. And when I got even more curious with it.
00:33:26 Medium Natashia Mack
I just had the impression that it was an older male like I just knew that and there was no like, I didn't see an older male. I didn't smell an older male. You know what I mean? There was. There was no other reason than just this, like inner knowing that like, hmm, like, I just have this impression that it's an older male. And it turned out he was the very first one.
00:33:47 Medium Natashia Mack
It came through during the session. Wow. Yeah. But.
00:33:53 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, that's all it is. And I think that's why a lot of people think that they don't have gifts. They don't have abilities because it's actually just so subtle sometimes, right? It's so everyone expects like, especially because we're talking about like the movies and stuff, everything. So, like in your face and intense and.
00:34:10 Lauren
For 3D, it's not 3D, it's not going to be 3 dimensional because they don't live here with us.
00:34:12
Yeah.
00:34:13 Medium Natashia Mack
I cannot.
00:34:16 Medium Natashia Mack
Exactly. It's so soft and subtle. It's, you know, I'm using the the term like impressions cause that's what it is. It's sometimes just this gentle impress.
00:34:27 Medium Natashia Mack
And so it requires you to kind of get quieter and to get curious and to just kind of be open to that soft, subtle information coming in like a soft wave. That's what it feels like. It's not like this. Oh, my God, I have this mail here. You know what I mean? It's not. It's not like that.
00:34:44 Lauren
Yeah. In colonial garb on the airplane wing.
00:34:52 Lauren
Exactly. I think when we've practiced mediumship or or psychic, you know, Claires together, I've always experienced it as almost like catching butterflies. It's like a very subtle light slutter by. And if you don't catch it.
00:35:09 Lauren
And like, look closer then it will pass you by and you'll miss that information.
00:35:15 Lauren
If if you take the time to lean in and feel more or listen closer, then it'll come through. And that's what you've you know, you've just used those muscles over years and years now and become so, so talented at it.
00:35:30 Medium Natashia Mack
Ohh I know, I'm just so amazing. Thank you.
00:35:35 Lauren
Really are though I've seen it.
00:35:38 Medium Natashia Mack
So are you? Oh, my gosh. Seriously.
00:35:42 Medium Natashia Mack
I just love that. Yeah, we could talk about this and relate. And you know, we're speaking like the same language. It just makes it so easy and effortless.
00:35:51 Lauren
Oh, for sure. Yeah, I agree. So share with me. One of your paranormal experiences.
00:35:56
Oh.
00:35:58 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh my gosh.
00:36:01 Medium Natashia Mack
Should should we go there with the?
00:36:04 Lauren
You know what? Let's let's go there. There's there's gonna be darker energies, but there's also lighter side to it and I can share more lighthearted stories as well. And yeah, go there. Let's hear it. OK, so.
00:36:04 Medium Natashia Mack
Weezy born.
00:36:21 Medium Natashia Mack
I have never shared this story.
00:36:24 Medium Natashia Mack
On here, or even like with.
00:36:27 Medium Natashia Mack
My audience, like my followers, I don't think I've ever shared this because it was something that was.
00:36:33 Medium Natashia Mack
Even too scary to share like it was one of those things that we're we're kind of, you know.
00:36:40 Medium Natashia Mack
Traumatic at the time, but now I feel like I've overcome so much of that fear and and whatever that it and and I'm with you. I'm with my safe person. So I feel I feel good about ohh for sure. So basically.
00:36:51 Lauren
With all of us here.
00:36:59 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, so years ago I was a kid. I don't even know what age, like maybe.
00:37:06 Medium Natashia Mack
10 like I, I don't even. Yeah, maybe 10 or 11 around there.
00:37:13 Medium Natashia Mack
So.
00:37:16 Medium Natashia Mack
Sorry we had this.
00:37:19 Medium Natashia Mack
Cousin through marriage come stay with us. And I'm like, I'm going to keep everyone's like names and identities like, you know, either whatever.
00:37:30 Medium Natashia Mack
Although my sister staff, who I've talked about before, is involved, so you know I'm. I'm she's fine with me talking about this. But anyway, so we had this cousin come and stay with us for a whole summer. And it was like a wonderful summer. We had a blast. Like she stayed at. Yeah. She stayed at her house. And I remember we'd go bike riding all the time.
00:37:50 Medium Natashia Mack
We we go swimming all the time like we it was just a really great time.
00:37:57 Medium Natashia Mack
But then she had introduced us.
00:38:03 Medium Natashia Mack
To this idea of making a homemade Ouija board, OK.
00:38:09 Lauren
What can go wrong?
00:38:11 Medium Natashia Mack
What could go wrong? Totally innocent, super super fine. It's no big deal.
00:38:17 Lauren
That's totally kid stuff.
00:38:20 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, it's like.
00:38:22 Medium Natashia Mack
No big deal, right? So.
00:38:24 Medium Natashia Mack
You might be wondering what what does a homemade Ouija board entail?
00:38:31 Medium Natashia Mack
So, and if I'm talking slow, it's just cause I'm trying to recall the memory cause again it's. I can't even remember the last time. I've openly talked about this. So I'm talking this slower cause I'm just trying to like explain it properly so.
00:38:47 Medium Natashia Mack
What it entails? Well, and by the way, please do not make this. Don't do this. I do.
00:38:54 Medium Natashia Mack
Not recommend this at.
00:38:55 Lauren
All.
00:38:56 Lauren
Do this at home.
00:38:57 Medium Natashia Mack
Do not do this at home, OK? This leave this to the professionals. Although I was not a professional, I was like 10 or 11. But anyways, so we wrote.
00:39:07 Medium Natashia Mack
Each letter of the alphabet.
00:39:09 Medium Natashia Mack
On a square piece of paper. So like on each square piece of paper was each letter of the alphabet OK, like one letter on each piece paper. And then we put them all in a circle in order. OK. And then in the middle we had, like, a piece of paper that said yes.
00:39:29 Medium Natashia Mack
On a piece of paper that said no, my arms are going like weak cause I'm talking about.
00:39:36 Lauren
Anyways, because this.
00:39:37 Medium Natashia Mack
**** scares me. I feel like this is so healing, though, and I'm like, taking my power back by talking about this. So anyways.
00:39:46 Medium Natashia Mack
And then we had a little glass.
00:39:48 Medium Natashia Mack
And we put a rosary inside of the glass. It was either inside of the glass or around it. OK, and that was supposed to be for protection.
00:40:01 Medium Natashia Mack
What the **** were we even thinking?
00:40:03 Lauren
As you knew you weren't getting up to something you weren't supposed to.
00:40:05 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh.
00:40:06 Medium Natashia Mack
Exactly. Again like we were.
00:40:09 Medium Natashia Mack
I grew up going to church every Sunday and my grandfather was a Deacon like we were all up in religion, so I knew this was bad. I knew this was so bad and we didn't tell like our parents or anything that we were doing this we were and my sisters room with no windows.
00:40:30 Medium Natashia Mack
It was just already a scary room, like, you know, when you just walk into a room and it just has those vibes. This room always had those vibes.
00:40:38 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh.
00:40:39 Medium Natashia Mack
Also, my sister always listened to like Marilyn Manson and Corn. And what's the other one Rob Zombie like music, music, where the vibrations do something to you. You know, I would. I don't know about you. I've always been so sensitive to the vibrations for music and that music.
00:40:49 Lauren
Oh, I remember that.
00:41:00 Medium Natashia Mack
Always creeped me out so much because again, I just hated scary movies. I hated scary music. I just couldn't handle any of it because I was too sensitive. So anyways, the room had not good vibes, so we're in there and.
00:41:13 Medium Natashia Mack
We all put our, you know, 2 fingers.
00:41:17 Medium Natashia Mack
On the ******* glass cause the glass is upside down and we start asking questions. Well, guess who my cousin calls in.
00:41:28 Lauren
I'm none other right.
00:41:29 Medium Natashia Mack
None other than.
00:41:32 Medium Natashia Mack
I don't even want to say, isn't that terrible?
00:41:35 Lauren
Like the snake oil salesman.
00:41:37 Medium Natashia Mack
Like yeah, like.
00:41:39 Medium Natashia Mack
You know the devil himself. I'm sorry, but, like, I could say that on here, right? Anyways, clearly I'm like again just going through the motions, healing some stuff as I'm talking about this. But so yeah, she calls him in.
00:41:56 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh my God, of all people to call in. Why?
00:42:03 Medium Natashia Mack
So anyways.
00:42:05 Medium Natashia Mack
Very dark energy comes in. You could just feel it and.
00:42:12 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm pretty sure that's when like things started like light. I'm pretty sure the light bulb in the room actually exploded. I'm not even kidding. So then we had to deal with that.
00:42:24 Medium Natashia Mack
And I I feel like we had done it like a couple times where, like maybe even before she called him in.
00:42:34 Medium Natashia Mack
She just like we wanted. And she was like taking the lead, obviously, because she knew what she was doing. We didn't know what we were doing. And by the way, when we had started it, I.
00:42:44 Medium Natashia Mack
I didn't believe them at first. Like the glass was moving and I didn't believe them. I was like, you guys are doing this like.
00:42:52 Medium Natashia Mack
Like there's no way. Yeah. You guys are pulling my leg like, you know, stop messing around type of thing. But no. Then I realize, like, OK, it's actually moving, and it would go to certain letters. You know, it would spell out certain words. And I don't remember all the details, but I do remember, you know, a man coming through.
00:42:52 Lauren
Pulling my leg.
00:43:11 Medium Natashia Mack
And just him kind of spelling out certain things and telling us to stop, like, doing what we were doing. Actually, I do remember that.
00:43:22 Medium Natashia Mack
Anyways, eventually she again calls in, who she calls in, and that's when the scary stuff started happening and we had to run upstairs because it got dark and we're freaking out screaming. We run upstairs to tell our parents we were, so we were crying hysterically, like we were just terrified.
00:43:42 Medium Natashia Mack
They were so upset because they're like Oh my God. Like, what did you do, you know? And after that like so obviously we were like grounded and stuff and we had to like destroy it. But I do. I do remember still.
00:43:59 Medium Natashia Mack
Laying around with it like even a few days after that, I can't remember for the life of me if someone was with me or if I did.
00:44:08 Medium Natashia Mack
It alone but.
00:44:10 Medium Natashia Mack
I know, but I remember like wondering if someone was there and then, you know my parents bedroom door slamming shut. And just after that, there was so many.
00:44:16
So.
00:44:21 Medium Natashia Mack
Ohh by the way, pretty sure I don't know if I said this out loud, I'm pretty sure we were grounded after that and.
00:44:27 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, we were just, we had to swear to never do that again. But after that, we started having a lot of.
00:44:34 Medium Natashia Mack
Haunted type of experiences happening, you know, TV turning on and off, lights flickering on and off. I remember coming home one day and my lamp was on the floor in such a weird position.
00:44:50 Medium Natashia Mack
Such a weird position that like if it had fallen, there's no way it could be in that position. So you know, and then that scared me.
00:45:01 Medium Natashia Mack
I feel like there was so many others like I know with my sister. She ended up having some very scary experiences, but that's going to be a story for another time, but basically it got to the point where we had to call in my grandfather and.
00:45:19 Lauren
That game.
00:45:20 Medium Natashia Mack
The Deacon, right, who was almost a priest at one point, but he decided, you know, he wanted a family and all of that. So he was a Deacon. And so he.
00:45:28 Medium Natashia Mack
Him and his, just like there's a woman who's been part of our family. She's no longer with us, but she was, you know, she was part of our family for so many years. I had known her my whole life. And she was so close to God, like, you know, and you could just feel that from a person that they're just so close to God, and their prayers are just, they're heard, you know.
00:45:49 Medium Natashia Mack
Just such a beautiful, pure woman. And so anyways, she came as well to assist my pupa and he brought his Bible and he's basically doing a house exorcism and.
00:46:02 Medium Natashia Mack
And that wasn't the only time the house needed a couple more, but I remember him. You know, blessing each of us. And that's what was needed. And. And and after that, you know, things, things were OK. But I think because I was.
00:46:19 Medium Natashia Mack
Set to be a medium one day. You know I still had these experiences with spirit in that, but.
00:46:26 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, I feel like I'm probably leaving parts out and I don't know if I explained it the best, but it was definitely one of the scariest experiences of my life.
00:46:38 Medium Natashia Mack
Some I would never ever touch Ouija board, even as a professional medium. It's still just something that I don't.
00:46:48 Medium Natashia Mack
Trust and I wouldn't recommend to anyone, and I don't. Yeah, I don't know. That's just kind of where I stand with that. But it's crazy. Like the fact that as kids like, we were able to, we had the power to create that and to call things in and to it was just oh.
00:47:08 Medium Natashia Mack
Just so scary.
00:47:08 Lauren
Ohh for sure.
00:47:09 Lauren
Yeah. And like reflecting on your story being at that age where you have the curiosity and being someone who is destined to become a medium, you probably wanted to communicate with spirit. You had that longing within you.
00:47:23 Lauren
And that was one of the only ways that would have been shared with you to accomplish that, right? Because you would probably model that after what you've seen in the movies. And so it's a shame that kids aren't really taught from a younger age to set boundaries and remain in the power and set up protection.
00:47:43 Lauren
Field protection. Not just a glass with a vase or whatever.
00:47:46 Lauren
Right. But yeah, so having an experience where you were completely out of control of the situation compared to doing all of your spiritual work now, which is always, you know, you in the driver's seat setting the tone for how things are going to align.
00:48:02 Medium Natashia Mack
Ohh, I just love that you shared that cause it just it does bring up such an important topic and that is boundaries and being in your power and I think that's why sometimes things get kind of out of control is is that fear grows and that fear feeds.
00:48:21 Medium Natashia Mack
It right and.
00:48:25 Medium Natashia Mack
It's it's wild what can be created energetically when we allow that fear to take over.
00:48:34 Medium Natashia Mack
And, you know, I've had people come to me saying, like, you know, their child is being bothered in the night and they're so afraid and things like that and.
00:48:47 Medium Natashia Mack
The the thing that I would share like time and time again and that I want to share with everyone here too, is like the importance of setting boundaries with spirit and being in your power. Meaning like confidently.
00:49:00 Medium Natashia Mack
Reclaiming your space and and stating that you do not allow, like anyone, to come into your space.
00:49:09 Medium Natashia Mack
These you could set boundaries even with loved ones and spirit like please only come during the day. Like please don't wake my child in the night, you know, because things are obviously different on the other side and I just it's so important to articulate, to know that you can articulate boundaries right and that you do have the power to like reclaim your space.
00:49:33 Medium Natashia Mack
And.
00:49:34 Medium Natashia Mack
It's just wild how many things will vanish when you're in your power.
00:49:38 Lauren
Totally. And looking back on all the activity, it was probably perpetuated by your fears. The fact that you guys were impressionable, inexperienced teens with teenage angst and hormones, all the back.
00:49:50 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah.
00:49:54 Lauren
And not to mention.
00:49:55 Medium Natashia Mack
And all the horror movies that we watched.
00:49:57 Lauren
Horror movies, the negative music and the tone and frequency of it all probably, you know, really it grew there.
00:50:04 Medium Natashia Mack
Absolutely.
00:50:06 Lauren
Yeah.
00:50:06 Medium Natashia Mack
And like I still don't even know where I stand when it comes to like the enemy. You know what I mean? Like, I'm just not there yet because I've gone to, like, different extremes with, like, religion and spirituality and whatever. But I think even just calling in the idea of that or like the energy, the frequency of that, like obviously like that's that's powerful because.
00:50:28 Medium Natashia Mack
It's again, it's energy and you're calling that.
00:50:31 Medium Natashia Mack
Into your space so.
00:50:32 Lauren
Yeah, the low vibrations were there.
00:50:33 Medium Natashia Mack
Yes, exactly so and I have chills talking about this and it just.
00:50:40 Medium Natashia Mack
The fear that it caused me was just so intense, like it's indescribable, and that lasted with me for years. You guys, years and years. I had so much fear. That was the word exacerbated, exacerbated I.
00:50:57
Yeah.
00:50:58 Medium Natashia Mack
Say that right?
00:51:00 Medium Natashia Mack
You know the fear I already had of the dark. Prior to that, you know. So imagine me becoming a medium.
00:51:10 Medium Natashia Mack
And not knowing what the hell to do, being so out of my power because that was like the big thing. I feel like we're doing a full circle now, but that's like what it was, right? I was so afraid of the unknown and just not understanding. And I was so not in my power. And I think, yeah, it's what a difference it made when I started to become more in my power like.
00:51:32 Medium Natashia Mack
All those experiences stopped kind of. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's wild, but.
00:51:35 Lauren
Exactly.
00:51:39 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, that's kind of my story.
00:51:42 Medium Natashia Mack
If I remember other parts to it, I will gladly shake her.
00:51:46 Medium Natashia Mack
But I think that's.
00:51:47 Lauren
Well, like when I was in your basement and the TV turned off.
00:51:51 Medium Natashia Mack
Yes. And then I'm pretty sure I hadn't even told you about it until after that, right, because I was too afraid to tell you.
00:51:56 Lauren
Hey.
00:51:58 Lauren
This is what happened I was having. We were just kids. I was we were sleeping over at your house.
00:52:04 Lauren
And for some reason your family was upstairs. I think your mom was making the Mac and the pie.
00:52:08 Lauren
With the cheese.
00:52:09 Medium Natashia Mack
The best.
00:52:11 Lauren
Which I always crave and remember the smell of and the taste of in my mouth to this day. So you guys were all upstairs together and I went down to in the basement to your bedroom. I don't know if I was changing my socks.
00:52:22 Lauren
Or grabbing something?
00:52:24 Lauren
But we had the TV playing in the rec room down there all day long. We were watching movies and had the TV.
00:52:31 Lauren
On and it was this one of those old tube TV's with the physical button. You have to push in. It was like a round cylindrical metal button click, click, click, click so it it just doesn't shut off on its own. And I'm standing there feet from the TV and the TV just cluck, clunk shuts off.
00:52:35
Yeah.
00:52:40
Yeah.
00:52:51 Lauren
So I I looked at it, I was perplexed. I thought nothing of it. I came upstairs and I nonchalantly told Tash and her mom Ohh. It was so strange. I was standing there and the TV just shut off right in front of.
00:53:04 Lauren
And the look of horror that crossed her face as she looks to her mom and her mom. Just kind of like got wide eyed. And it was like, OK, don't think nothing of it. And we ate and then later on your mom sat me down at the table and she said, you know, I have to tell you something. And I don't want you to be.
00:53:23 Lauren
Afraid in our house.
00:53:25 Lauren
And you guys explained to me.
00:53:27 Lauren
What had happened and how you guys were in the process of clearing the energy? So then I never went down there again all alone.
00:53:36 Medium Natashia Mack
It seriously. The vibes were so off in that freaking house like it could never shake it. Even the like. My bedroom at the time. Like I couldn't stand sleeping in there.
00:53:46 Medium Natashia Mack
I slept on the couch.
00:53:49 Medium Natashia Mack
For years, like I, any opportunity you had, yeah. I would always sleep on the couch because I felt safer.
00:53:54 Medium Natashia Mack
There.
00:53:55 Medium Natashia Mack
It was just.
00:53:57 Medium Natashia Mack
And like, I don't think people realize the effect that has on a child's body who's just constantly living in fear. You know, like, I was just so terribly afraid of the dark and the unknown. And again, like.
00:54:13 Medium Natashia Mack
Just, you know, evil. Like, that's what I was so afraid of. And I just only wish that I would have had someone I could talk to back then to help me through that, to help me through like what I was feeling, what I was experience.
00:54:27 Medium Natashia Mack
Seeing how I could protect myself, you know and feel safe because I just never had that feeling of safety. I remember when I, as I got older, I remember like having certain movies, like comedy specifically that I would lay on my.
00:54:48 Medium Natashia Mack
Two like remember, having those like 2 in one like TV and VCR like little two TV's. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. So I had one of those.
00:54:53 Lauren
Bedroom ones catalog.
00:54:58 Medium Natashia Mack
And I would just I I would fall asleep to like certain movies, one of them being American Pie, Part 1. I was going to say probably like an Adam Sandler movie or those silly comedies.
00:55:11 Medium Natashia Mack
Exactly because it's just I needed like even then I knew like, OK, I gotta get the vibes up. Even if I didn't necessarily know that. I just knew that having those movies play would help me so that I could feel safe enough to fall asleep. So.
00:55:26 Lauren
Yeah.
00:55:28 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, again, just don't mess around with homemade Ouija boards or the ones that you buy the store, you know.
00:55:35 Lauren
I think rule number one in the spiritual and spooky communities, unless you're one of the bravest paranormal investigators, is no Ouija boards. Just don't mess with it.
00:55:45 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah. Yeah, just it's just not worth it. And again, like we were kids, obviously. But Steve, even as adults, like, I just like, why? Why bother? Why do that?
00:55:55 Lauren
Yeah.
00:55:56 Medium Natashia Mack
Just don't stay away.
00:55:58 Lauren
And those who are not in the know would would feel so.
00:56:02 Lauren
They would think it ironic that a medium would say, you know, I don't mess with the Ouija boards because you're so used to hearing people ask you ohh you speak to past loved ones, you know? Aren't you afraid you're just answered? No, I'm not. I have clear boundaries. I who? It's always loving energy that comes through.
00:56:13 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh yes.
00:56:21 Lauren
Goes out to your intention.
00:56:23 Medium Natashia Mack
Yes, exactly. It's so weird and such like a ********. Almost to think that like, OK, so you're afraid of like, all that stuff. But yet you talk to dead people for a living. But it doesn't feel that way to me. To me, it's like I'm literally connecting to the realm of love. I'm connecting to the heavenly realm where our loved ones reside.
00:56:46 Medium Natashia Mack
And I'm it's like I'm talking to a person, I'm talking. I am. Cause they are. They're still them. They still have their personalities, you know, and they're.
00:56:56 Medium Natashia Mack
They're.
00:56:57 Medium Natashia Mack
They're still loving and they have those, those good intentions and connecting with them. It's like having conversation with you when, like, that's how it feels. It's just, it feels so natural and normal.
00:57:12 Medium Natashia Mack
Which is weird to say because it's actually so not as paranormal and it's it's.
00:57:18 Medium Natashia Mack
Super Strange, obviously, but not to me.
00:57:21 Lauren
Yeah, compared to a paranormal experience that will throw you off and be completely unlike what you do day-to-day.
00:57:30 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, exactly. Yes. Ohh gosh, yes, exactly so.
00:57:30 Lauren
Like a glitch in the matrix.
00:57:39 Medium Natashia Mack
There it is. Yeah. Yeah. Do you have another?
00:57:41 Lauren
I just think. Ohh yeah. Well, I just wanted to segue on being a kid and being afraid because I remember certain horror movies, completely traumatizing me as a team. Well, and I wish I had never been exposed to that stuff too young. Yeah, like my parents were cool and allowed us to watch whatever. But I kind of wish that they had.
00:57:42 Medium Natashia Mack
1.
00:57:43 Medium Natashia Mack
What were you going to say?
00:57:51
Oh.
00:57:55 Medium Natashia Mack
Same same.
00:58:02 Lauren
Created more clear boundaries just to protect me because.
00:58:05 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah.
00:58:06 Lauren
I was so sensitive to that kind of fear and maybe it wouldn't affect other kids as much as it would you and I, but we were sensitive to, to energy, to begin.
00:58:16 Lauren
With so that fear can really run rampant. And I distinctly remember being a little kid and I had trouble sleeping as well because I was always afraid of.
00:58:24 Lauren
Vampires and ghosts in the room, and my mom had made bought one of those clear spray bottles. She had filled it with water and she called it my ghost spray. So if I was, she kept it by my yeah, she kept it by my bedside table, and if I awoke and I was afraid, or if I couldn't get to bed, I would spray my ghost spray.
00:58:45 Lauren
And that would clear the energy and I could go back to sleep and.
00:58:49 Medium Natashia Mack
That is so smart.
00:58:49 Lauren
Was like.
00:58:50 Lauren
Yeah, it was a really good tool to like, supply a kid with because it kind of is like a physical way of.
00:58:56 Lauren
Showing them that they are the the one in power of their space and set the tone right.
00:59:03 Medium Natashia Mack
Exactly. I love that I bet you someone's gonna hear that tip and.
00:59:07 Medium Natashia Mack
They're going to use it.
00:59:09 Lauren
It worked for me.
00:59:12 Medium Natashia Mack
I love that. OK. Well, do you happen to have another story?
00:59:17 Lauren
I do have my Valentine's Day story. Do you think that one?
00:59:20 Medium Natashia Mack
OK.
00:59:22 Lauren
Yes.
00:59:23 Medium Natashia Mack
We're going to end it with that. You share that because I feel like that's the.
00:59:26 Medium Natashia Mack
Perfect.
00:59:28 Medium Natashia Mack
Way to wrap this up, you guys. This story still blows my mind. So yeah, let's.
00:59:33 Medium Natashia Mack
Let's go there.
00:59:34 Lauren
OK. Yeah, we're going to go there and this gets weird. If it wasn't weird already. All right, it's a two-part story because it was 2 events, one after another in the same night. So I don't remember the year, but it was some time in the past.
00:59:52 Lauren
A decade ago, maybe somewhere between 10 and 13 years ago.
00:59:57 Lauren
I was living alone in an apartment. My one bedroom apartment I was renting when I was single. I was single for like a six year period. I kind of dated around, but I was more or less solo. I was riding so low as they say.
01:00:18 Lauren
And like oftentimes, you can't stop my shine. When I was riding so.
01:00:22 Lauren
Well, but particularly at around Valentine's Day, I was so damn bitter to be.
01:00:28 Medium Natashia Mack
You guys, this woman who's so bubbly and cheery and joyful on a regular day. ******* hated Valentine's Day.
01:00:36 Lauren
I became Egor. I wouldn't want to talk about it. I want to scratch it off the calendar. I want to pretend it wasn't even coming and hadn't even passed. And if a loved one of mine, like a friend or one of my parents, gave me a sweet little Valentine or some chocolates, kind of like show me that I was loved, I would be so angry at them and I would roll my eyes.
01:00:39
Yeah.
01:00:56 Lauren
And it was all because I just really wanted love. And I was lonely, especially on Valentine's Day.
01:01:03 Medium Natashia Mack
So shadow to all the solo riders who are bitter on Valentine's Day. You're not alone in that. And one day you'll find your true love. But yes, like you did. Like I predicted. Which is, which is the story for another time. I literally predicted the person she is marrying. I'm not even kidding.
01:01:15
Which?
01:01:23 Medium Natashia Mack
Down to his green eyes, his.
01:01:26 Medium Natashia Mack
Ocean, which is so crazy, but again, we're going to have many parts to this, otherwise this episode is literally gonna be like 3 hours long. So yeah, keep going.
01:01:32 Lauren
Oh yeah, shout out to everyone who's still listening because you're very patient. But yeah, we have much so much more to talk about, but at the time I was single and I hated it at Valentine's Day. So it Valentine's Day fell on a Sunday because Family Day here in Canada had fallen on a Monday. It was a long weekend.
01:01:53 Lauren
And I was in my apartment. I went to bed, bitter and lonely, to be sleeping all alone and negative. So I awake, I awaken in sleep paralysis. And I had had short bouts of sleep paralysis before everyone. Kind of.
01:02:13 Lauren
Does when they're falling in and out of sleep, but this was the worst sleep paralysis I've ever experienced. I was stuck to my bed, lying flat on my.
01:02:23 Lauren
Back, I couldn't breathe. There was a weight on my chest and I could sense and hear a ********* on the left hand side of my head. It it sounded as if, like literally a swirl or portal or door was opening. It was like static.
01:02:42 Lauren
And it was horrifying. And immediately in the moment, all I could think to say was, God, please help me. And at the time in my negativity and loneliness, I had kind of fallen away from God and lost my faith because I was angry.
01:03:01 Lauren
But you know, in the instant that I said, God, please help me. I was released from this hold and I saw this blast of blue blue light just like sweep across my room and sweep across my whole, you know, being and I I strongly feel that that was a.
01:03:21 Lauren
Archangel Michael making himself known.
01:03:22 Medium Natashia Mack
So yeah. Ohh yeah, him with the blue.
01:03:26 Lauren
We love Mike. He's our protector and he's got our back and.
01:03:33 Lauren
What had really stood out to me about it was that it wasn't a second after I asked God for help or there was no leg. It was the instant that I asked God for help. He answered, and that that truly, like, moved me. So I jumped out of bed. I threw on the light and I I just sat.
01:03:53 Lauren
In my bed for a while and reflected on like what brought me here. And I thought that, you know, I was being a negative Nancy and I just had to turn back to God and.
01:04:05 Lauren
You know, except where I was and.
01:04:09 Lauren
So I I kind of had a chat with him. I asked for forgiveness for, you know, falling away and and not being grateful for my life and everything I had and all the people I did have.
01:04:18 Lauren
And, you know, thanked Michael for assisting me there too. And I went back to bed.
01:04:26 Lauren
Between that time and the morning, I had the weirdest dream I've ever had.
01:04:32 Lauren
I'm a pisces. I have.
01:04:33 Lauren
Weird dreams, but this one.
01:04:36 Lauren
Really floored me and the following day I met with my dad because it was Family Day and we went to dinner and I I said, dad, I gotta tell you about this weird dream. I explained it all to him and he told me you better do some research because I think you were time traveling.
01:04:54 Lauren
So, he said. Have you ever heard of the Saint Valentine's Day massacre? No, I haven't.
01:05:02 Lauren
After I watched a couple of documentaries on it, listen to some podcasts. My dream was a play by play of the Valentine's Day massacre. So in the early 30's, the gangster time in Chicago on Valentine's Day, there was an ordered hit by Al Capone.
01:05:23 Lauren
Against some of his own gangsters and an abandoned warehouse, they called it the Valentine's Day massacre because it was a bloodbath.
01:05:33 Lauren
And uh.
01:05:34 Lauren
In my dream, and I guess these gangsters had dressed up as cops in order to throw off the gangsters, they were ordered to hit.
01:05:44 Lauren
I I'm forgetting all the details, but my dream I was kind of like an omniscient viewer.
01:05:50 Lauren
Of the actual massacre, I'm in a room in an abandoned warehouse.
01:05:56 Lauren
And there are some gangsters who come up and there's two or three guys lined up and they just opened fire and I'm getting sprayed and sprayed and sprayed. It's like those old Tommy guns from the 1930s. I'm getting sprayed in blood. Somehow I slip out of the room, I run down a staircase. I exit the building.
01:06:16 Lauren
And there's it's snowy, so I'm running through the snow.
01:06:20 Lauren
To the road where I see a cop vehicle, there's like a K9 unit cop van. And there are two cops sitting in this van.
01:06:32 Lauren
Was a German shepherd dog and I could still hear the bloodbath going on in the building. 1 of the cop looks at me. He looks me up and down and he says, is that your blood or someone else's? And I say someone elses and he chuckles at me. Doesn't do anything.
01:06:48 Lauren
And I get this. And he says jump on in with us and I get the sense that I can't trust this cop. He's a fake cop. I better run. So instead of jumping in the vehicle, I I run into the woods and I'm bare feet for some reason. So I'm I'm running bare feet through the snowy woods, like in someone else's blood.
01:07:07 Lauren
And that's where I wake up and.
01:07:10 Lauren
It just parallels so many of the details of the Valentine's Day massacre.
01:07:16 Lauren
That it's spooky. And it was Valentine's Day that I dreamt it.
01:07:20 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh my God.
01:07:22 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm chills and I kept getting chills. But like, I've goosebumps on top of goosebumps.
01:07:28 Lauren
Yeah. So period.
01:07:28 Medium Natashia Mack
I remember the first time you telling me that story, and I remember like the where you describing the warehouse and yeah, the blood splattering and just the Tommy guns and everything. And I just remember like.
01:07:42 Medium Natashia Mack
Because this was before we were.
01:07:45 Medium Natashia Mack
Even that spiritual yeah. Before we were aware. And I just remember being like, whoa, like, what the ****?
01:07:45 Lauren
A win.
01:07:52 Lauren
Yeah, exactly. And so I've spoken to other people about it, and I have a couple theories either that was a memory from maybe a past life that I was there and that's why I carry such a hate word. Hate hatred towards Valentine's Day up until now that I'm in.
01:08:10 Lauren
Love.
01:08:11 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah.
01:08:12 Lauren
Or.
01:08:12 Lauren
Maybe just my negative vibration attracted me to witness something like that in in sleep because I was on that wavelength, right?
01:08:23 Medium Natashia Mack
I almost wonder if it could be a mixture of it, but you know the first thing of course that pops in my mind is like it's a memory from another lifetime. But I wondered if.
01:08:36 Medium Natashia Mack
You know, God and you know, maybe your higher self share that with you to help you understand why you had such a negative vibration around Valentine's Day, right. To just kind of like give you some awareness of this is where it comes from. So you could release this type of thing.
01:08:53 Lauren
Maybe. Yeah, that is such an interesting point of view. Either a memory of my own or just a one that's in the psyche of humanity, because that was a huge event that shook like the world at the time too. And in our collective consciousness.
01:09:05 Medium Natashia Mack
Right.
01:09:08 Medium Natashia Mack
For sure. Yeah, we'll never know. Yeah, I know. I feel like we could go on forever, but that's just, like, such, like, I feel like we saved the best for last, for sure, though. Such an awesome story. And this was so much fun when, like.
01:09:10 Lauren
Probably something else we could talk about.
01:09:23 Lauren
Yeah, it really was a lot of time has passed. I didn't realize.
01:09:26 Medium Natashia Mack
I know, I know, which is so wild, but I mean it's cause we're having so much fun and.
01:09:32 Medium Natashia Mack
I I feel like.
01:09:34 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, people are gonna. I really enjoy these stories. So if you guys loved these stories and love, you know, hearing Ren and I together definitely let us know. We would love to hear your feedback also. You know, if you want us to read your stories, you better submit them so that we can, we could even leave you anonymous.
01:09:55 Medium Natashia Mack
Uh, if you prefer.
01:09:58 Medium Natashia Mack
You know, we could change names and stuff, but I just. I think that would be so cool and yeah, so thank you, Ren. So, so much for coming on here and having fun with me and just sharing with all of my listeners. I'm really excited for them to hear this and get to know you too.
01:10:19 Medium Natashia Mack
And yeah, I we're going to do.
01:10:20 Lauren
This again? Ohh yes, thank you so much for having me. It was a pleasure and an honor to hang out with you all too. And I hope you guys enjoyed. I can't wait to hopefully share some of your stories and and read what's been up to you cuz I'm so curious about this stuff as well and.
01:10:38 Lauren
Yeah. Thanks, Tash again for having me. I hope to talk with you guys again soon.
01:10:44 Medium Natashia Mack
All right. Bye, guys.
