The Hot Mess Medium Show Ep. 18 Spooky Paranormal Storytime with Natashia & Lauren
Hey guys! I am SOOOO excited to finally have my bestie, Lauren a.k.a. Ren on the show for our first ever, Spooky Paranormal Storytime episode!
In this episode:
We reminisce & look back on the beginning of my Spiritual journey and the big part that Lauren played in it.
How paranormal experiences happen with your Clairs
Lauren shares her childhood paranormal experience with her deceased grandfather
How children are wide-open, sensitive little messengers for the Spirit world and some of the struggles they can face
Shedding light on some of the harm, fear & misconceptions that scary movies can cause
Lauren's spooky paranormal experience with a copy-cat spirit (and getting tucked into bed by a spirit?) In her dad's old home that is known for busy paranormal activity
How information feels as it's coming through your Psychic Clairs
I share about my childhood homemade ouija board experience for the first time ever
The importance of setting boundaries & being in your power (vs feeding fear) when it comes to paranormal experiences
Some tips for parents who have young, highly-sensitive children who are scared in the night
Lauren shares about her sleep paralysis experience
-& how her past bitterness towards Valentine's day manifested into a vivid dream of the Valentine's Day Massacre (and *may* be connected to a past life??)
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Transcript
00:00:03 Medium Natashia Mack
Hey, guys. Welcome back to the hot mess medium show. I am super duper Ultra Mega excited to for you to be listening to this right now because I have my best friend, my BFF forever and ever and ever is here on this episode. I'm super pumped.
00:00:23 Medium Natashia Mack
We are going to be talking all things paranormal and this is probably we already decided probably going to be like, you know, there's a series like there's going to be multiple parts because.
00:00:34 Medium Natashia Mack
I I just know it's going to be so much fun and I'm so grateful to Ren. I'm going to call her when her name is Lauren. She's going to introduce herself in just a moment, but I'm so grateful to her that she, you know, came up with the idea to come on. And because I had put it out in my stories, like, OK, I want to start having more conversations about, like.
00:00:55 Medium Natashia Mack
Paranormal experiences, whether it be.
00:00:59 Medium Natashia Mack
Experiences with like an Angel you know showing up on your path or your past loved ones, or glitches in the matrix, or those experience where where you're like, thank God. I trust my intuition and I do have a place like a spot on my website where you can actually submit your story. So just kind of plugging that in there because I want more stories.
00:01:19 Medium Natashia Mack
To share which run and I already talked about.
00:01:22 Medium Natashia Mack
We're gonna. We're gonna do some episodes where we're where we read your stories, so please submit those stories on the website, please. And thank you. So anyways.
00:01:35 Medium Natashia Mack
Ren, please introduce yourself to my people. I'm so excited for them to meet you.
00:01:40 Lauren
Hi everyone. Hi, audience. Hi, Tash. I know her name is Natasha or the hot mess medium. But I'm going to call her Tash because that's what I've called her forever. My name is Lauren. I'm her best friend of a million years. But you can call me Ren. And I'm so honored to be on the show. Finally, because I've been listening to it. And just.
00:02:00 Lauren
So eager to be part of it for an episode or a couple maybe.
00:02:05 Lauren
So yeah, thanks for having me.
00:02:07 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm so excited you're here, and I know that we're going to have so much fun. And before we actually hit record, I was telling Ren, like, oh, my God, people are going to hear a different side of me. They're going to like.
00:02:20 Lauren
Brace yourselves.
00:02:22 Medium Natashia Mack
Because when I'm, you know when.
00:02:23 Medium Natashia Mack
You're just like with that person who bring who just.
00:02:26 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, it brings out those parts of you that you would typically keep at Bay or on a leash, you know, name.
00:02:36 Medium Natashia Mack
To run, you know, with her, it's like I'm just sitting. I'm just so open. I'm like, yeah, I'm just so much more open. And I feel so safe and secure within who I am and free to be myself. So.
00:02:50 Medium Natashia Mack
And then you know, I'm assuming it's safe to say.
00:02:53 Medium Natashia Mack
The same for you.
00:02:54 Lauren
Definitely. Likewise, you know, as someone who works in a very corporate background, I'm an HVAC sales lady.
00:03:02 Medium Natashia Mack
You would never know this by the way, by looking at at Ren. She's like a girly girl flower power diva like shimmer sparkle like all the things. OK, you would never know.
00:03:14 Lauren
Yeah, I know, but I have a very boring day job. A muggle job, if you will. And but I shared, like, a lot of my paranormal or spooky or spiritual experiences with.
00:03:27 Lauren
Gosh, and I've always been obviously safe to be myself around her and share all that stuff with her too. So this is just perfect that I get to kind of share with the wider audience, but with the comfort and protection of my BFF right beside me.
00:03:44 Medium Natashia Mack
Exactly. And I love that you brought that up because.
00:03:48 Medium Natashia Mack
You guys, Ren is actually the one who introduced me to spirituality. I'm not even kidding. Oh, and I I have chills like talking about it, but I remember years and years ago before I even knew I was a medium. I think this was after the birth of my second child, which that was way back in, like 2011.
00:04:08 Medium Natashia Mack
She actually gave me a book. She gave me the secret.
00:04:13 Medium Natashia Mack
And yeah, you gave me that. I know. And I had put off reading it for a long time, but eventually did read it, and it really opened me up to just exploring other possibilities. And, you know, shifting my mindset into a more +1, things like that and like also opened me up to, like, manifestation, obviously.
00:04:15 Lauren
I don't even remember that.
00:04:34 Medium Natashia Mack
Movie.
00:04:34 Medium Natashia Mack
But then I don't know if you remember this. When I first discovered I was a medium and started to like open up to medium ship and I was like scared like I had so much fear. You guys like crippling fear and you recommended.
00:04:52 Medium Natashia Mack
What's her name? To have her reading with? We still read her things. She channels are Kendra Gabriel.
00:05:00 Lauren
Oh, Shelly young.
00:05:01 Medium Natashia Mack
Shelley Young, OK, so ran recommended. I do a reading with Shelley Young. OK, this woman channels Archangel Gabriel and she's incredible. You guys have to go check her out. I don't know if she goes by Shelley Young or if she goes under another name because she does daily channeling.
00:05:17 Lauren
I I find her on YouTube or on Facebook under Shelley Young.
00:05:22 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh, OK yeah, perfect.
00:05:22 Lauren
Or Trinity Esoterics is her her business.
00:05:26 Medium Natashia Mack
That's what it is. Yeah, I think that might be what her handle is on.
00:05:29 Lauren
OK.
00:05:30 Medium Natashia Mack
Him so she shares like daily or almost daily readings like channelings from Archangel Gabriel. And they're very beautiful and so anyways, I remember I was like, OK, I'm going to book a session and I'm pretty sure this was my first reading ever.
00:05:47 Medium Natashia Mack
Way yes. And I did not know what to expect and.
00:05:52 Medium Natashia Mack
I I remember going into it being like, OK, like I just I need answers. I need to. I need that validation. I need to know that like I'm on the right track and that.
00:06:01 Medium Natashia Mack
I just needed to ease some of that fear. And anyways, I remember.
00:06:07 Medium Natashia Mack
She was like.
00:06:09 Medium Natashia Mack
Wow, you are already perfectly aligned with Archangel Michael.
00:06:16 Medium Natashia Mack
Like she was the one who told me that. And I was like what? Like she's like, yeah, you have like your your channel is already like you already have a direct channel to Archangel Michael.
00:06:29 Medium Natashia Mack
Wow, I was like ohh, I got chills again talking about it and that's how my journey started with communicating with Archangel Michael and I used to and not a lot of people don't know this, but I used to channel.
00:06:41 Medium Natashia Mack
Like messages from Archangel Michael, what was so crazy? I don't know if you remember some.
00:06:46 Medium Natashia Mack
Of them run but like.
00:06:49 Medium Natashia Mack
His language was not his language. The words he used were so different than what the words I would use and right and some of the things that would come through.
00:07:03 Medium Natashia Mack
Like it would take me a while, I'd have to read it a few times to fully understand, like the depth of the message. Like they're so deep all the time. Look up the meaning of words because you know the definition of certain words that you were channeling girly problems. So true. I mean, I still do that. But yeah, with his words.
00:07:11 Lauren
I remember you would.
00:07:14
English.
00:07:19 Lauren
My leg.
00:07:25 Medium Natashia Mack
They were like big words that I was like, these are really old school words that we don't use nowadays. Like I wouldn't use that word, but it makes sense that he would. And I had even, you know, channeled him.
00:07:40 Medium Natashia Mack
Like.
00:07:41 Medium Natashia Mack
During like readings for other people and and I just remember him being a huge part of my journey but anyways.
00:07:48 Medium Natashia Mack
I feel like I went in a totally different direction, but it feels important, you know, to to mention that basically you were just like a huge part of my journey and you introduced me to so many things. And your dad even introduced me to so many things. Like, I remember being in the trailer and he's talking about like.
00:08:02
Hi.
00:08:08 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh my gosh.
00:08:10 Lauren
Past life regressions had that altar set up, and he still hasn't altered to this day where he'll have his little knickknacks. Now he has a pyramid that he bought out in Egypt, but at the time he had a wolf head pelt like a fur, some quartz crystals, some rose.
00:08:12 Medium Natashia Mack
Yes.
00:08:30 Lauren
Towards he was always burning incense when we'd have our sleepovers. That would be the smell that would wake us up. So we were like, exposed to some spirituality pretty young.
00:08:41 Medium Natashia Mack
Right. And yeah. And I had never heard of these things through anyone else, even him talking about.
00:08:48 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh, where did it go? Atlantis. Sorry. And Edgar Casey, he was the first person to mention Edgar Casey to me and all these things and just kind of opened my mind because, you know, born and raised.
00:08:50
Oh.
00:09:01 Medium Natashia Mack
Catholic and just kind of only seeing that side of things or you know being.
00:09:08 Medium Natashia Mack
Exposed to to that, it was really cool to then, you know. See that wool? There's like so much more, right? So. But I didn't actually get spiritual until.
00:09:15 Lauren
Oh for sure.
00:09:19 Lauren
Yeah, like kind of was awakened within you and you kind of were, like, dragged kicking and screaming into your awakening, which became your whole life path, which is so significant. Yeah.
00:09:20 Lauren
It.
00:09:30 Medium Natashia Mack
Which is crazy. Absolutely. And I just love that. Like you knew me before and during and now. And that's so cool.
00:09:40 Lauren
He's always been a super cute nerd. You guys worry about that.
00:09:45 Medium Natashia Mack
I just love you and like I also got to mention to you guys that like Wren is so friggin connected to she's so intuitive she has given me some of the best readings I've ever had. I'm not even kidding. I still remember like a healing session that you did for me. And like we're very telepathic with each other.
00:10:06 Medium Natashia Mack
Which is so cool all the time. Yeah, we're super connected.
00:10:06 Lauren
All the time.
00:10:09 Lauren
When I'm hungry, I tell you, when you're hungry, you tell me and we just end up at a.
00:10:14 Medium Natashia Mack
Drive through. Yeah, exactly so.
00:10:19 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, now that people got a good sense of, you know.
00:10:23 Medium Natashia Mack
Who you are and all of that I want to. I would. I would love if you could now share some of your stories, because that's what we're going to do. We're going to kind of go back and forth and share some of our paranormal stories.
00:10:39 Lauren
And yeah, for sure, go ahead.
00:10:42 Medium Natashia Mack
No, I was just gonna say like, which one do you feel called to share first? I'm super excited to hear about them, even though I probably already heard them. But like, it's gonna feel like I heard them, I'm hearing.
00:10:51 Lauren
Them for the first time. I'm really excited. Yeah, for sure. I think just segue on what you said by me being slightly, you know, open to spirit as well. And having third eye open.
00:11:02 Lauren
A lot of my paranormal experiences were experienced with my Claires. It hasn't always been like a ghost walks through the door, you know, everyone who's had paranormal experiences could probably resonate with that. It's kind of a mixture of your claires and the, you know.
00:11:22 Lauren
Physical environment that you're in at the time, whether it's.
00:11:27 Lauren
You know broad daylight and you're wide awake, or you're somewhere between sleep and awakeness.
00:11:34 Lauren
That's kind of where I've experienced mine my earliest I don't remember, but my parents remember part of me I used to see my deceased grandfather when I was two years old.
00:11:50 Lauren
My family would tell me that I would watch someone go across the room and I would laugh and I would interact with someone who wasn't.
00:12:00 Lauren
There and eventually I was able to speak and I called this person the man because I had no point of reference to who he was. But my family knew that I seemed happy when this person was around, so they paid no mind.
00:12:17 Lauren
Until my mother saw a psychic and this psychic told her that.
00:12:23
But.
00:12:24 Lauren
Her youngest child, which was me, was seeing her stepdad who passed away, so his name was Papa Charles and he had passed before I was born. And I guess he lingered around and the psychic had other evidence that.
00:12:41 Lauren
Would show it to be Papa Charles. Things he would say things that they shared in common and.
00:12:49 Lauren
Yeah, she had confirmed that I was seeing Papa Charles. And then later on, my mom was showing me a photo album that I had never seen before. Old photos when she was a teenager growing up before I was born. And she told me that as she turned the page to a picture of Papa Charles, I pointed right at him. I said that's the man.
00:13:11 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh my God.
00:13:14 Lauren
And yeah, The funny thing about this is we were living in the small yellow house and we were planning on moving to the Victorian house that we lived on on the highway.
00:13:26 Lauren
The psychic told my mother. When you move house, he is going to leave you be. He will move on and not follow you houses. And I remember visiting the house with the realtor and my parents. And they allowed us to run room to room and check out the house. And I remember.
00:13:47 Lauren
Running to every room in the house and running back downstairs to my parents. I don't remember that I told them this, but I said the man isn't.
00:13:57 Lauren
Here.
00:13:59 Lauren
Ohh my. Yeah, well I guess I was looking for him. Which is, which is really crazy. So I had a lot of experiences as a child.
00:14:04 Medium Natashia Mack
Wow.
00:14:11 Medium Natashia Mack
Yes.
00:14:11 Lauren
That that prove that you know spirit is real.
00:14:16 Medium Natashia Mack
Absolutely. And I love that.
00:14:18 Medium Natashia Mack
You shared that too, because it's true.
00:14:22 Medium Natashia Mack
Children are the closest things to heaven. They're so much more open, like wide open, right, and they have a lot of experiences up to about the age of four that you know, there's so much more intuitive. There's so much more in tune, and they're very, you know, they're able to see, I would say, like, the veil is thinner.
00:14:42 Medium Natashia Mack
With them, they're able to see and connect with past loved ones, be little messengers, you know and.
00:14:47 Medium Natashia Mack
I love that.
00:14:49 Medium Natashia Mack
I love that.
00:14:49 Medium Natashia Mack
This was a comforting experience for you as a child. You know the fact that the man here, Papa Charles, ended up being sort of like a comfort for you at the time. And you, you had this relationship with him even though he had passed before you were born. Which just goes to show that our loved ones do get to know.
00:15:10 Medium Natashia Mack
You know our our babies, even before they come Earth side, cause a lot of people say like, oh, I wish, you know, they could have met or, you know, whatever, but you guys did meet and that's so beautiful. And then yeah, typically after the age of 4 is when things start to the connection starts to dwindle.
00:15:26 Medium Natashia Mack
Down after that. But I yeah, I love that you shared that. That's such a beautiful story when.
00:15:31 Lauren
Thank you. And yeah, I think it was also a huge comfort to my mom as she had, you know, been missing her dad and concerned about moving forward without him. And then she got to, you know, be reminded that he was still around and he was still watching over us and kids being, you know, wide open is something that you've observed in your own.
00:15:52 Lauren
Kids with your 4 kids.
00:15:56 Medium Natashia Mack
Over friendly.
00:15:57 Lauren
Over the past couple of years as well.
00:16:00 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, what a wild experience it is to be on the other side of that to be like. So I had experiences with spirit as a child, as you know. But then to be a parent and having your children having experiences with spirit is a completely different thing.
00:16:18 Medium Natashia Mack
You know, I've had my son come running into my bedroom in the middle of the night saying, uh, there's a ghost in my room. Like, just super casually, like, just like it's a normal thing. I'm like, OK, so I go in there and he was actually describing an orb of light, like how there was a.
00:16:38 Medium Natashia Mack
Person. But then he was seeing this orb of light and he was describing it in everything, and I can't remember the specific details, but I just thought that was so fascinating. And then my oldest, you know, she had many experiences too with this.
00:16:55 Medium Natashia Mack
With this little girl, who would, you know, want to play with her in the night? And, like, you know, would kind of be bugging her but so innocently, but we actually discovered that that was the baby that I had miscarried prior to conceiving my second oldest child.
00:17:14 Medium Natashia Mack
Who I know was a little girl I had named her Charlotte and she started showing up for my oldest daughter, even though, like I had never.
00:17:23 Medium Natashia Mack
Or.
00:17:24 Medium Natashia Mack
Explained any of that to her, you know, so that was, that was really neat too. And of course, you know, after my Papa passed away, they were all having experiences with him as well. And it's just, I don't know, it's just so comforting. Yeah. Sometimes it's like freaky because you're like, ah, like, what does this mean? It's my house.
00:17:42 Medium Natashia Mack
Or whatever, but no, it's it's very comforting to know that, you know, our loved ones are still are still watching over our little ones and everything.
00:17:54 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah. And then as like, I loved how you expressed how.
00:17:58 Medium Natashia Mack
Everyone's experience is different, like and how you experience spirit like you're talking about. The chairs and everything. And I know, like when I think back to my experiences as a child with spirit, it was always like a lot of clear sentience. Like I would feel them. I would just feel their presence, right or I would feel a poke.
00:18:19 Medium Natashia Mack
I would feel cold air like those sorts of things and just kind of know like, OK, someone is here. Yeah. It wasn't always like.
00:18:29 Medium Natashia Mack
A full body.
00:18:30 Medium Natashia Mack
Experience like there's a whole person in front of.
00:18:33 Medium Natashia Mack
Me although I.
00:18:33 Medium Natashia Mack
Have physically with my eyes, seen spirits walking by and things like that. Most of the time, especially in the night, it was more of like I could hear them like I would. I could. I would wake up to someone whispering my name for example, or like I would, I would feel pokes on my arm.
00:18:50 Medium Natashia Mack
Or again, I would just kind of feel them so.
00:18:52 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah. Oh, you're just so good. Friends. So good at storytelling. You guys like she always has been. And I'm just.
00:18:58 Medium Natashia Mack
I just love it.
00:18:59 Medium Natashia Mack
So share another one.
00:18:59 Lauren
I love story 24. You.
00:19:03 Medium Natashia Mack
Please tell me more. Tell us more.
00:19:05 Lauren
Well, and something I want to mention too is how you said your son would come in and describe an experience he was having.
00:19:12 Lauren
Like it was so normal. And it's true to them that it is so normal and natural because they haven't been commissioned or conditioned to believe otherwise yet, or to be embarrassed to share those kind of experiences stories with others.
00:19:26 Medium Natashia Mack
Yes, I love that you just shared that because when I think back to having those experiences of being so afraid.
00:19:35 Medium Natashia Mack
I didn't go to my parents like I didn't talk about those things. I kept them to myself and I was so afraid I would often turn on the light and sleep with the lights on because I was so afraid of the dark. Oh my God and I.
00:19:50 Medium Natashia Mack
Know so many people.
00:19:51 Medium Natashia Mack
Can relate to that. I was so scared of the light or sorry.
00:19:51 Lauren
Thank you.
00:19:55 Lauren
I still AM.
00:19:55
There's.
00:19:55 Medium Natashia Mack
The dark. Yes. Oh, my God. Still, I'm. Yeah. Still for the dark that I would sleep in the bathroom on the floor with the light.
00:20:02 Medium Natashia Mack
One on a towel. That's like how I would sleep just to kind of help me get through the night because I was just so afraid. But I didn't know how to communicate it or how to talk about it like.
00:20:14 Medium Natashia Mack
I didn't know.
00:20:17 Medium Natashia Mack
That I could even talk about. It's so weird to think back at that, like remembering those experiences, but just not remembering ever talking about them. So yeah, I love that you mentioned that, and I think that's an important thing for my listeners to note, who have kids who maybe are very sensitive and are having these experiences. I think it's so important to.
00:20:37 Medium Natashia Mack
Be open to hearing them out and you know to not make them afraid of.
00:20:40 Medium Natashia Mack
That or to not, you know, make them feel bad about it or anything like that, right?
00:20:46 Lauren
Absolutely yes. And I hope that that will help.
00:20:51 Lauren
Many kids grow into, you know, adults who aren't afraid to share those experiences either cause it's a taboo subject because some believe and some don't. So yeah, here we are trying to share anyways.
00:21:04 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, because I ended up being like a grown *** woman, being terrified like.
00:21:10 Medium Natashia Mack
So the experiences I was having, but also just to like talk about it to come out, you know, as as a spiritual person even was really scary. That was like.
00:21:21 Medium Natashia Mack
Like even just coming out as a spiritual person, not even.
00:21:24 Medium Natashia Mack
As a medium, you know that felt very scary.
00:21:28 Lauren
Absolutely. And also normalizing it and talking about it kind of shows how we all share experiences and how they're really not as scary as we expect them to be. I think the only way.
00:21:40 Lauren
A lot of us are exposed to, you know, paranormal experiences are in the movies, which are dramaticized and are made to terrify you and are so gory, you know, and.
00:21:52 Lauren
Although I've had very scary experiences, they've never been harmful or similar to, you know, the Hollywood depiction.
00:22:02 Medium Natashia Mack
Yes, I can't fully say that unfortunately true.
00:22:05
Sure.
00:22:07 Medium Natashia Mack
I do have.
00:22:08 Medium Natashia Mack
One experience that felt very similar, but aside from that, I completely agree. Also side note, I do not watch scary movies, cannot, will not.
00:22:22
No.
00:22:23 Medium Natashia Mack
I just can't handle them, although I will say on Monday, Ryan, my husband and I, we did go and watch.
00:22:31 Medium Natashia Mack
The new final destination movie it was actually so good, but I had to. I had to close my eyes like a child, like 90% of the time because it was just too glory. But it was really good.
00:22:36 Lauren
No, wait.
00:22:43 Lauren
Oh yeah.
00:22:45
Uh.
00:22:46 Medium Natashia Mack
But yeah, I totally agree. Like, I feel like the way that Hollywood.
00:22:51 Medium Natashia Mack
Shows like paranormal stuff. It's just so terrifying, and it brings so much fear and it causes a lot of people to just be super closed off right because they think like ohh that's.
00:23:03 Medium Natashia Mack
All that, yeah, for sure. So yeah, I'm glad that you brought.
00:23:07 Medium Natashia Mack
That up, yeah.
00:23:09 Lauren
For sure, and I don't watch horror movies either, although I have a sick fascination with legends and lore, and you know, other people's paranormal story times. I've been listening to them on YouTube for years, but if it's dark out, you won't.
00:23:15 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, same.
00:23:23 Lauren
Catch me? It'll be daytime and that's it.
00:23:26 Medium Natashia Mack
I was even telling Ryan this morning that we were going to be doing this and he's like.
00:23:32 Medium Natashia Mack
I don't understand you. Like you will not watch scary movies, but you're gonna you know you love talking about paranormal stuff. And I'm like, that's different. Like, movies are just so exaggerated. And you're, like, seeing it. And it's super scary. But then I don't know. There's just something about.
00:23:51 Medium Natashia Mack
Talking about real experiences that which is.
00:23:55 Medium Natashia Mack
It's so fascinating. Exactly. It's like how there's a lot of women who can't watch scary movies, but.
00:24:03 Medium Natashia Mack
And they only listen to true crime, and they like, fall asleep to true crime. Crime. It's like it's real and it should be even more scary, but for some reason, it's like comforting to people in a weird way. So I'm the same way when it comes to paranormal stuff. The same. It's just that sick fascination. It's like a taboo subject that we're.
00:24:19
Hey.
00:24:23 Lauren
Not allowed to talk about and we just want to like our curiosity is picked by it, right.
00:24:28 Medium Natashia Mack
Yes. And it's so true, like I've, you know, one of the intentions I had for this podcast was to talk about stuff like this. But it just. Yes. I've heard stories from, like, other mediums and their origin stories. And, you know, their experiences and stuff. But I have yet to really, like, dive deeper into this stuff. So I'm really excited for, like, where this is going to go.
00:24:51 Lauren
Oh, me too. I have, like, an idea that maybe we should do a Halloween special.
00:24:55 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh, that would be fun.
00:24:59 Lauren
With that, but OK, so I've got one for you.
00:25:01 Medium Natashia Mack
OK.
00:25:03 Medium Natashia Mack
Go for it.
00:25:03 Lauren
It'll be a little freaky. Well, the first one isn't, but the second one is. OK, so I moved into my dad's throat my college years, so I spent four years there, you know, three years in college and about a year after I graduated. And he lives in this old home.
00:25:06 Medium Natashia Mack
OK.
00:25:22 Lauren
That was built in like the early 1900s.
00:25:25 Lauren
And we suspect it might have been a doctor's home or an engineers home because it's close to the train tracks here in our city and it's it's pretty big for early 1900s. It's a brick home. It's beautiful. And every single person that has lived in that home since I have.
00:25:45 Lauren
Has experienced something paranormal, so.
00:25:48 Medium Natashia Mack
I believe it. Yeah, the vibes in that home I've been in there. It's an old *** home, you guys. Beautiful. But you could just feel that there's so much history in that home. Like, it just feels like there's been so.
00:25:50 Lauren
You've been in there.
00:26:03 Medium Natashia Mack
Much energy in there from different times, like so many energetic imprints, yes. Traffic. Yes, yes. And all these like different energetic imprints from the years. So it's just yeah, it's really cool.
00:26:07 Lauren
Traffic like traffic, yes.
00:26:17 Lauren
Oh, it's so cool. And my dad is a long haul trucker and he rents rooms out to tenants. So there's a big turnover of people who live there and move out and people who are open and have had experience before and those who were completely closed off have been awakened to, you know, a whole different reality.
00:26:36 Lauren
Leaving that home.
00:26:38 Lauren
And over the years, what we've surmised is that potentially there may be like a theory we have is like a portal from the basement to the roof, through the chimney area.
00:26:49 Medium Natashia Mack
I totally believe in portals and old homes, and I even have a story for later, but I want to hear this. Oh, my God. Yes, I believe that.
00:26:55 Lauren
Yes, because yeah, yeah, it's like the home itself has old energy, but it also has.
00:27:02 Lauren
A fast turnover of different energetic imprints. It's almost as if things move through it often too, so you'll feel the presence of a certain spirit or an energy, you know, frequency for a while, and then it will be gone.
00:27:06
Oh.
00:27:21 Lauren
My dad specifically has always felt the imprint of like a little boy living in the home who sits near the stair.
00:27:28 Lauren
Years, but there are so many different ghosties in that house. One in particular would mimic the voices and the sounds of other people. So to explain, explain the house my my dad was living in the basement. I was living in the only bedroom on the main floor.
00:27:50 Lauren
And there were three tenants upstairs in the three bedrooms and the bathroom that I used was on the top floor as well.
00:27:58 Lauren
So if I woke up in the middle of the night, I would have to go up the stairs to use the washroom and come back down. Of course I would run down as fast as possible and jump into bed and being scared of the dark.
00:28:10 Medium Natashia Mack
Wait, when did we stop doing that?
00:28:14 Lauren
Yeah, no one does that anymore, like.
00:28:15 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, totally. I mean that's.
00:28:17 Lauren
Totally a brave Stairmaster.
00:28:18 Lauren
Yeah, totally. But one night I was using the washroom late at night and I come out. The house was dead quiet before I went in. And as I'm coming down the stairs, I could hear my dad.
00:28:33 Lauren
Dad, who I thought was my dad laughing so loud, and it sounded like a muffled version of his voice on the phone. Like when he would be speaking to a relative, speaking really loudly and laughing his **** off. And I was kind of, like, weirded out. Like, why is my dad just laughing?
00:28:53 Lauren
Hysterically over the phone like this on a weeknight, everyone's asleep and I'm coming down the stairs, coming down the stairs. It's getting louder and louder. I open the door to the basement, which is where he's sleeping. I come down 3 or 4 stairs and I'm saying, you know, Dad, to try to be like what? Who are you talking to? What's going on in the middle of?
00:29:13 Lauren
Dead quiet. He was asleep with his breathing machine on his seat.
00:29:18 Lauren
My God.
00:29:22 Lauren
Oh, so freaky. So he wakes up, takes off his mask, turns on the light and he says what's wrong? And I said, well, hurry wearing you on the phone, you know, laughing really loud. And he just kind of looked at me knowing that I was experiencing something paranormal. It was the copycat.
00:29:38 Lauren
Boys in the house and I slept on a cot beside his bed, down in the basement that night.
00:29:44 Lauren
I didn't want to go upstairs all alone.
00:29:47 Medium Natashia Mack
Ohh gosh, I don't blame you. Yeah. Wow.
00:29:51 Lauren
That was freaky. And then I had my own experience in the house again. I was in my bedroom on the main floor. I would sleep with my my door closed and about 10 feet away from my bed was a trunk, a wooden trunk, and I would have those folded.
00:30:10 Lauren
These blankets on my trunk.
00:30:14 Lauren
That night, in particular, my dad was sleeping in his room downstairs, and my boyfriend at the time had been renting a room off my father and he was up in his room upstairs. Yes, we weren't allowed to sleep together in the same bed, even though we were in our late teens, we were trying to be respectful, so I'm asleep.
00:30:33 Lauren
In the middle of the night, I wake up cold and so I slip out of bed and I walk towards my trunk to grab one of my blankets.
00:30:43 Lauren
But there's someone standing there holding my blanket.
00:30:48 Lauren
And in that half asleep, half awake feeling that I was in, I just thought, OK, well, they've got me covered. So I turn around, I get back in bed, I lie down and I see someone throw the throw up and it it just lands on me in a perfect square.
00:31:08 Lauren
From the foot of my bed.
00:31:10 Lauren
And.
00:31:12 Lauren
Went back to sleep, slept soundly. The next morning I wake up. The throw is still on my duvet's perfect square. And I'm thinking to myself, who came in and tucked me in last night. My door was still closed, so I thought maybe my boyfriend knew that I was cold in the middle of the night, so came tucked me in.
00:31:32 Lauren
I asked him. He said no, I don't do that. And then I thought Dad did, did you come and tuck me in for some reason? He said. I would never go in your room. You sleep with your room or your door closed. So I don't know who tucked me in that night, but.
00:31:47 Lauren
It never happened again.
00:31:49 Medium Natashia Mack
Wow, I wonder if it was the man. I wonder if it was your mom. A child?
00:31:54 Lauren
I I don't know. I had a feminine energy feeling from it.
00:31:58 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh.
00:31:58 Medium Natashia Mack
Ohk OK and see, I love that you just like, have that feeling right? Like sometimes just like, yeah, you just know or just have that impression that like, oh, it's giving me more of like a feminine vibe or.
00:32:13 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm asking vibe.
00:32:13 Lauren
Yeah. Oh, for sure. And like I do encourage anyone who's listening in your next, you know, paranormal.
00:32:20 Lauren
Experience you might not be able to think of it in the moment, but afterwards try to lean into it and and get adjust for.
00:32:27 Lauren
The the vibe of the person or the animal or the spirit who came through, you know, maybe you could lean either which way and kind of discover who it could be.
00:32:38 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, because sometimes it's just.
00:32:41 Medium Natashia Mack
It's about.
00:32:43 Medium Natashia Mack
What's the word like like? I love how you said, like leaning in.
00:32:47 Medium Natashia Mack
I think that's what you said, but like.
00:32:50 Medium Natashia Mack
Wondering and getting curious about like who? Yeah. What happened? Who was it? Because that's kind of how it is for me even, you know, like, yesterday leading up to a session. I was about to do.
00:32:55 Lauren
What happened just there?
00:33:05 Medium Natashia Mack
I.
00:33:07 Medium Natashia Mack
I could feel a lot of things happening in my body and I had to, just like, take a moment to be like, OK, is this even mine? And that's when I knew, like, no, I actually do feel like there is a spirit around, and I feel like they're going to, you know, come through during the reading. And when I got even more curious with it.
00:33:26 Medium Natashia Mack
I just had the impression that it was an older male like I just knew that and there was no like, I didn't see an older male. I didn't smell an older male. You know what I mean? There was. There was no other reason than just this, like inner knowing that like, hmm, like, I just have this impression that it's an older male. And it turned out he was the very first one.
00:33:47 Medium Natashia Mack
It came through during the session. Wow. Yeah. But.
00:33:53 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, that's all it is. And I think that's why a lot of people think that they don't have gifts. They don't have abilities because it's actually just so subtle sometimes, right? It's so everyone expects like, especially because we're talking about like the movies and stuff, everything. So, like in your face and intense and.
00:34:10 Lauren
For 3D, it's not 3D, it's not going to be 3 dimensional because they don't live here with us.
00:34:12
Yeah.
00:34:13 Medium Natashia Mack
I cannot.
00:34:16 Medium Natashia Mack
Exactly. It's so soft and subtle. It's, you know, I'm using the the term like impressions cause that's what it is. It's sometimes just this gentle impress.
00:34:27 Medium Natashia Mack
And so it requires you to kind of get quieter and to get curious and to just kind of be open to that soft, subtle information coming in like a soft wave. That's what it feels like. It's not like this. Oh, my God, I have this mail here. You know what I mean? It's not. It's not like that.
00:34:44 Lauren
Yeah. In colonial garb on the airplane wing.
00:34:52 Lauren
Exactly. I think when we've practiced mediumship or or psychic, you know, Claires together, I've always experienced it as almost like catching butterflies. It's like a very subtle light slutter by. And if you don't catch it.
00:35:09 Lauren
And like, look closer then it will pass you by and you'll miss that information.
00:35:15 Lauren
If if you take the time to lean in and feel more or listen closer, then it'll come through. And that's what you've you know, you've just used those muscles over years and years now and become so, so talented at it.
00:35:30 Medium Natashia Mack
Ohh I know, I'm just so amazing. Thank you.
00:35:35 Lauren
Really are though I've seen it.
00:35:38 Medium Natashia Mack
So are you? Oh, my gosh. Seriously.
00:35:42 Medium Natashia Mack
I just love that. Yeah, we could talk about this and relate. And you know, we're speaking like the same language. It just makes it so easy and effortless.
00:35:51 Lauren
Oh, for sure. Yeah, I agree. So share with me. One of your paranormal experiences.
00:35:56
Oh.
00:35:58 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh my gosh.
00:36:01 Medium Natashia Mack
Should should we go there with the?
00:36:04 Lauren
You know what? Let's let's go there. There's there's gonna be darker energies, but there's also lighter side to it and I can share more lighthearted stories as well. And yeah, go there. Let's hear it. OK, so.
00:36:04 Medium Natashia Mack
Weezy born.
00:36:21 Medium Natashia Mack
I have never shared this story.
00:36:24 Medium Natashia Mack
On here, or even like with.
00:36:27 Medium Natashia Mack
My audience, like my followers, I don't think I've ever shared this because it was something that was.
00:36:33 Medium Natashia Mack
Even too scary to share like it was one of those things that we're we're kind of, you know.
00:36:40 Medium Natashia Mack
Traumatic at the time, but now I feel like I've overcome so much of that fear and and whatever that it and and I'm with you. I'm with my safe person. So I feel I feel good about ohh for sure. So basically.
00:36:51 Lauren
With all of us here.
00:36:59 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, so years ago I was a kid. I don't even know what age, like maybe.
00:37:06 Medium Natashia Mack
10 like I, I don't even. Yeah, maybe 10 or 11 around there.
00:37:13 Medium Natashia Mack
So.
00:37:16 Medium Natashia Mack
Sorry we had this.
00:37:19 Medium Natashia Mack
Cousin through marriage come stay with us. And I'm like, I'm going to keep everyone's like names and identities like, you know, either whatever.
00:37:30 Medium Natashia Mack
Although my sister staff, who I've talked about before, is involved, so you know I'm. I'm she's fine with me talking about this. But anyway, so we had this cousin come and stay with us for a whole summer. And it was like a wonderful summer. We had a blast. Like she stayed at. Yeah. She stayed at her house. And I remember we'd go bike riding all the time.
00:37:50 Medium Natashia Mack
We we go swimming all the time like we it was just a really great time.
00:37:57 Medium Natashia Mack
But then she had introduced us.
00:38:03 Medium Natashia Mack
To this idea of making a homemade Ouija board, OK.
00:38:09 Lauren
What can go wrong?
00:38:11 Medium Natashia Mack
What could go wrong? Totally innocent, super super fine. It's no big deal.
00:38:17 Lauren
That's totally kid stuff.
00:38:20 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, it's like.
00:38:22 Medium Natashia Mack
No big deal, right? So.
00:38:24 Medium Natashia Mack
You might be wondering what what does a homemade Ouija board entail?
00:38:31 Medium Natashia Mack
So, and if I'm talking slow, it's just cause I'm trying to recall the memory cause again it's. I can't even remember the last time. I've openly talked about this. So I'm talking this slower cause I'm just trying to like explain it properly so.
00:38:47 Medium Natashia Mack
What it entails? Well, and by the way, please do not make this. Don't do this. I do.
00:38:54 Medium Natashia Mack
Not recommend this at.
00:38:55 Lauren
All.
00:38:56 Lauren
Do this at home.
00:38:57 Medium Natashia Mack
Do not do this at home, OK? This leave this to the professionals. Although I was not a professional, I was like 10 or 11. But anyways, so we wrote.
00:39:07 Medium Natashia Mack
Each letter of the alphabet.
00:39:09 Medium Natashia Mack
On a square piece of paper. So like on each square piece of paper was each letter of the alphabet OK, like one letter on each piece paper. And then we put them all in a circle in order. OK. And then in the middle we had, like, a piece of paper that said yes.
00:39:29 Medium Natashia Mack
On a piece of paper that said no, my arms are going like weak cause I'm talking about.
00:39:36 Lauren
Anyways, because this.
00:39:37 Medium Natashia Mack
**** scares me. I feel like this is so healing, though, and I'm like, taking my power back by talking about this. So anyways.
00:39:46 Medium Natashia Mack
And then we had a little glass.
00:39:48 Medium Natashia Mack
And we put a rosary inside of the glass. It was either inside of the glass or around it. OK, and that was supposed to be for protection.
00:40:01 Medium Natashia Mack
What the **** were we even thinking?
00:40:03 Lauren
As you knew you weren't getting up to something you weren't supposed to.
00:40:05 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh.
00:40:06 Medium Natashia Mack
Exactly. Again like we were.
00:40:09 Medium Natashia Mack
I grew up going to church every Sunday and my grandfather was a Deacon like we were all up in religion, so I knew this was bad. I knew this was so bad and we didn't tell like our parents or anything that we were doing this we were and my sisters room with no windows.
00:40:30 Medium Natashia Mack
It was just already a scary room, like, you know, when you just walk into a room and it just has those vibes. This room always had those vibes.
00:40:38 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh.
00:40:39 Medium Natashia Mack
Also, my sister always listened to like Marilyn Manson and Corn. And what's the other one Rob Zombie like music, music, where the vibrations do something to you. You know, I would. I don't know about you. I've always been so sensitive to the vibrations for music and that music.
00:40:49 Lauren
Oh, I remember that.
00:41:00 Medium Natashia Mack
Always creeped me out so much because again, I just hated scary movies. I hated scary music. I just couldn't handle any of it because I was too sensitive. So anyways, the room had not good vibes, so we're in there and.
00:41:13 Medium Natashia Mack
We all put our, you know, 2 fingers.
00:41:17 Medium Natashia Mack
On the ******* glass cause the glass is upside down and we start asking questions. Well, guess who my cousin calls in.
00:41:28 Lauren
I'm none other right.
00:41:29 Medium Natashia Mack
None other than.
00:41:32 Medium Natashia Mack
I don't even want to say, isn't that terrible?
00:41:35 Lauren
Like the snake oil salesman.
00:41:37 Medium Natashia Mack
Like yeah, like.
00:41:39 Medium Natashia Mack
You know the devil himself. I'm sorry, but, like, I could say that on here, right? Anyways, clearly I'm like again just going through the motions, healing some stuff as I'm talking about this. But so yeah, she calls him in.
00:41:56 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh my God, of all people to call in. Why?
00:42:03 Medium Natashia Mack
So anyways.
00:42:05 Medium Natashia Mack
Very dark energy comes in. You could just feel it and.
00:42:12 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm pretty sure that's when like things started like light. I'm pretty sure the light bulb in the room actually exploded. I'm not even kidding. So then we had to deal with that.
00:42:24 Medium Natashia Mack
And I I feel like we had done it like a couple times where, like maybe even before she called him in.
00:42:34 Medium Natashia Mack
She just like we wanted. And she was like taking the lead, obviously, because she knew what she was doing. We didn't know what we were doing. And by the way, when we had started it, I.
00:42:44 Medium Natashia Mack
I didn't believe them at first. Like the glass was moving and I didn't believe them. I was like, you guys are doing this like.
00:42:52 Medium Natashia Mack
Like there's no way. Yeah. You guys are pulling my leg like, you know, stop messing around type of thing. But no. Then I realize, like, OK, it's actually moving, and it would go to certain letters. You know, it would spell out certain words. And I don't remember all the details, but I do remember, you know, a man coming through.
00:42:52 Lauren
Pulling my leg.
00:43:11 Medium Natashia Mack
And just him kind of spelling out certain things and telling us to stop, like, doing what we were doing. Actually, I do remember that.
00:43:22 Medium Natashia Mack
Anyways, eventually she again calls in, who she calls in, and that's when the scary stuff started happening and we had to run upstairs because it got dark and we're freaking out screaming. We run upstairs to tell our parents we were, so we were crying hysterically, like we were just terrified.
00:43:42 Medium Natashia Mack
They were so upset because they're like Oh my God. Like, what did you do, you know? And after that like so obviously we were like grounded and stuff and we had to like destroy it. But I do. I do remember still.
00:43:59 Medium Natashia Mack
Laying around with it like even a few days after that, I can't remember for the life of me if someone was with me or if I did.
00:44:08 Medium Natashia Mack
It alone but.
00:44:10 Medium Natashia Mack
I know, but I remember like wondering if someone was there and then, you know my parents bedroom door slamming shut. And just after that, there was so many.
00:44:16
So.
00:44:21 Medium Natashia Mack
Ohh by the way, pretty sure I don't know if I said this out loud, I'm pretty sure we were grounded after that and.
00:44:27 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, we were just, we had to swear to never do that again. But after that, we started having a lot of.
00:44:34 Medium Natashia Mack
Haunted type of experiences happening, you know, TV turning on and off, lights flickering on and off. I remember coming home one day and my lamp was on the floor in such a weird position.
00:44:50 Medium Natashia Mack
Such a weird position that like if it had fallen, there's no way it could be in that position. So you know, and then that scared me.
00:45:01 Medium Natashia Mack
I feel like there was so many others like I know with my sister. She ended up having some very scary experiences, but that's going to be a story for another time, but basically it got to the point where we had to call in my grandfather and.
00:45:19 Lauren
That game.
00:45:20 Medium Natashia Mack
The Deacon, right, who was almost a priest at one point, but he decided, you know, he wanted a family and all of that. So he was a Deacon. And so he.
00:45:28 Medium Natashia Mack
Him and his, just like there's a woman who's been part of our family. She's no longer with us, but she was, you know, she was part of our family for so many years. I had known her my whole life. And she was so close to God, like, you know, and you could just feel that from a person that they're just so close to God, and their prayers are just, they're heard, you know.
00:45:49 Medium Natashia Mack
Just such a beautiful, pure woman. And so anyways, she came as well to assist my pupa and he brought his Bible and he's basically doing a house exorcism and.
00:46:02 Medium Natashia Mack
And that wasn't the only time the house needed a couple more, but I remember him. You know, blessing each of us. And that's what was needed. And. And and after that, you know, things, things were OK. But I think because I was.
00:46:19 Medium Natashia Mack
Set to be a medium one day. You know I still had these experiences with spirit in that, but.
00:46:26 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, I feel like I'm probably leaving parts out and I don't know if I explained it the best, but it was definitely one of the scariest experiences of my life.
00:46:38 Medium Natashia Mack
Some I would never ever touch Ouija board, even as a professional medium. It's still just something that I don't.
00:46:48 Medium Natashia Mack
Trust and I wouldn't recommend to anyone, and I don't. Yeah, I don't know. That's just kind of where I stand with that. But it's crazy. Like the fact that as kids like, we were able to, we had the power to create that and to call things in and to it was just oh.
00:47:08 Medium Natashia Mack
Just so scary.
00:47:08 Lauren
Ohh for sure.
00:47:09 Lauren
Yeah. And like reflecting on your story being at that age where you have the curiosity and being someone who is destined to become a medium, you probably wanted to communicate with spirit. You had that longing within you.
00:47:23 Lauren
And that was one of the only ways that would have been shared with you to accomplish that, right? Because you would probably model that after what you've seen in the movies. And so it's a shame that kids aren't really taught from a younger age to set boundaries and remain in the power and set up protection.
00:47:43 Lauren
Field protection. Not just a glass with a vase or whatever.
00:47:46 Lauren
Right. But yeah, so having an experience where you were completely out of control of the situation compared to doing all of your spiritual work now, which is always, you know, you in the driver's seat setting the tone for how things are going to align.
00:48:02 Medium Natashia Mack
Ohh, I just love that you shared that cause it just it does bring up such an important topic and that is boundaries and being in your power and I think that's why sometimes things get kind of out of control is is that fear grows and that fear feeds.
00:48:21 Medium Natashia Mack
It right and.
00:48:25 Medium Natashia Mack
It's it's wild what can be created energetically when we allow that fear to take over.
00:48:34 Medium Natashia Mack
And, you know, I've had people come to me saying, like, you know, their child is being bothered in the night and they're so afraid and things like that and.
00:48:47 Medium Natashia Mack
The the thing that I would share like time and time again and that I want to share with everyone here too, is like the importance of setting boundaries with spirit and being in your power. Meaning like confidently.
00:49:00 Medium Natashia Mack
Reclaiming your space and and stating that you do not allow, like anyone, to come into your space.
00:49:09 Medium Natashia Mack
These you could set boundaries even with loved ones and spirit like please only come during the day. Like please don't wake my child in the night, you know, because things are obviously different on the other side and I just it's so important to articulate, to know that you can articulate boundaries right and that you do have the power to like reclaim your space.
00:49:33 Medium Natashia Mack
And.
00:49:34 Medium Natashia Mack
It's just wild how many things will vanish when you're in your power.
00:49:38 Lauren
Totally. And looking back on all the activity, it was probably perpetuated by your fears. The fact that you guys were impressionable, inexperienced teens with teenage angst and hormones, all the back.
00:49:50 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah.
00:49:54 Lauren
And not to mention.
00:49:55 Medium Natashia Mack
And all the horror movies that we watched.
00:49:57 Lauren
Horror movies, the negative music and the tone and frequency of it all probably, you know, really it grew there.
00:50:04 Medium Natashia Mack
Absolutely.
00:50:06 Lauren
Yeah.
00:50:06 Medium Natashia Mack
And like I still don't even know where I stand when it comes to like the enemy. You know what I mean? Like, I'm just not there yet because I've gone to, like, different extremes with, like, religion and spirituality and whatever. But I think even just calling in the idea of that or like the energy, the frequency of that, like obviously like that's that's powerful because.
00:50:28 Medium Natashia Mack
It's again, it's energy and you're calling that.
00:50:31 Medium Natashia Mack
Into your space so.
00:50:32 Lauren
Yeah, the low vibrations were there.
00:50:33 Medium Natashia Mack
Yes, exactly so and I have chills talking about this and it just.
00:50:40 Medium Natashia Mack
The fear that it caused me was just so intense, like it's indescribable, and that lasted with me for years. You guys, years and years. I had so much fear. That was the word exacerbated, exacerbated I.
00:50:57
Yeah.
00:50:58 Medium Natashia Mack
Say that right?
00:51:00 Medium Natashia Mack
You know the fear I already had of the dark. Prior to that, you know. So imagine me becoming a medium.
00:51:10 Medium Natashia Mack
And not knowing what the hell to do, being so out of my power because that was like the big thing. I feel like we're doing a full circle now, but that's like what it was, right? I was so afraid of the unknown and just not understanding. And I was so not in my power. And I think, yeah, it's what a difference it made when I started to become more in my power like.
00:51:32 Medium Natashia Mack
All those experiences stopped kind of. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's wild, but.
00:51:35 Lauren
Exactly.
00:51:39 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, that's kind of my story.
00:51:42 Medium Natashia Mack
If I remember other parts to it, I will gladly shake her.
00:51:46 Medium Natashia Mack
But I think that's.
00:51:47 Lauren
Well, like when I was in your basement and the TV turned off.
00:51:51 Medium Natashia Mack
Yes. And then I'm pretty sure I hadn't even told you about it until after that, right, because I was too afraid to tell you.
00:51:56 Lauren
Hey.
00:51:58 Lauren
This is what happened I was having. We were just kids. I was we were sleeping over at your house.
00:52:04 Lauren
And for some reason your family was upstairs. I think your mom was making the Mac and the pie.
00:52:08 Lauren
With the cheese.
00:52:09 Medium Natashia Mack
The best.
00:52:11 Lauren
Which I always crave and remember the smell of and the taste of in my mouth to this day. So you guys were all upstairs together and I went down to in the basement to your bedroom. I don't know if I was changing my socks.
00:52:22 Lauren
Or grabbing something?
00:52:24 Lauren
But we had the TV playing in the rec room down there all day long. We were watching movies and had the TV.
00:52:31 Lauren
On and it was this one of those old tube TV's with the physical button. You have to push in. It was like a round cylindrical metal button click, click, click, click so it it just doesn't shut off on its own. And I'm standing there feet from the TV and the TV just cluck, clunk shuts off.
00:52:35
Yeah.
00:52:40
Yeah.
00:52:51 Lauren
So I I looked at it, I was perplexed. I thought nothing of it. I came upstairs and I nonchalantly told Tash and her mom Ohh. It was so strange. I was standing there and the TV just shut off right in front of.
00:53:04 Lauren
And the look of horror that crossed her face as she looks to her mom and her mom. Just kind of like got wide eyed. And it was like, OK, don't think nothing of it. And we ate and then later on your mom sat me down at the table and she said, you know, I have to tell you something. And I don't want you to be.
00:53:23 Lauren
Afraid in our house.
00:53:25 Lauren
And you guys explained to me.
00:53:27 Lauren
What had happened and how you guys were in the process of clearing the energy? So then I never went down there again all alone.
00:53:36 Medium Natashia Mack
It seriously. The vibes were so off in that freaking house like it could never shake it. Even the like. My bedroom at the time. Like I couldn't stand sleeping in there.
00:53:46 Medium Natashia Mack
I slept on the couch.
00:53:49 Medium Natashia Mack
For years, like I, any opportunity you had, yeah. I would always sleep on the couch because I felt safer.
00:53:54 Medium Natashia Mack
There.
00:53:55 Medium Natashia Mack
It was just.
00:53:57 Medium Natashia Mack
And like, I don't think people realize the effect that has on a child's body who's just constantly living in fear. You know, like, I was just so terribly afraid of the dark and the unknown. And again, like.
00:54:13 Medium Natashia Mack
Just, you know, evil. Like, that's what I was so afraid of. And I just only wish that I would have had someone I could talk to back then to help me through that, to help me through like what I was feeling, what I was experience.
00:54:27 Medium Natashia Mack
Seeing how I could protect myself, you know and feel safe because I just never had that feeling of safety. I remember when I, as I got older, I remember like having certain movies, like comedy specifically that I would lay on my.
00:54:48 Medium Natashia Mack
Two like remember, having those like 2 in one like TV and VCR like little two TV's. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. So I had one of those.
00:54:53 Lauren
Bedroom ones catalog.
00:54:58 Medium Natashia Mack
And I would just I I would fall asleep to like certain movies, one of them being American Pie, Part 1. I was going to say probably like an Adam Sandler movie or those silly comedies.
00:55:11 Medium Natashia Mack
Exactly because it's just I needed like even then I knew like, OK, I gotta get the vibes up. Even if I didn't necessarily know that. I just knew that having those movies play would help me so that I could feel safe enough to fall asleep. So.
00:55:26 Lauren
Yeah.
00:55:28 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, again, just don't mess around with homemade Ouija boards or the ones that you buy the store, you know.
00:55:35 Lauren
I think rule number one in the spiritual and spooky communities, unless you're one of the bravest paranormal investigators, is no Ouija boards. Just don't mess with it.
00:55:45 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah. Yeah, just it's just not worth it. And again, like we were kids, obviously. But Steve, even as adults, like, I just like, why? Why bother? Why do that?
00:55:55 Lauren
Yeah.
00:55:56 Medium Natashia Mack
Just don't stay away.
00:55:58 Lauren
And those who are not in the know would would feel so.
00:56:02 Lauren
They would think it ironic that a medium would say, you know, I don't mess with the Ouija boards because you're so used to hearing people ask you ohh you speak to past loved ones, you know? Aren't you afraid you're just answered? No, I'm not. I have clear boundaries. I who? It's always loving energy that comes through.
00:56:13 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh yes.
00:56:21 Lauren
Goes out to your intention.
00:56:23 Medium Natashia Mack
Yes, exactly. It's so weird and such like a ********. Almost to think that like, OK, so you're afraid of like, all that stuff. But yet you talk to dead people for a living. But it doesn't feel that way to me. To me, it's like I'm literally connecting to the realm of love. I'm connecting to the heavenly realm where our loved ones reside.
00:56:46 Medium Natashia Mack
And I'm it's like I'm talking to a person, I'm talking. I am. Cause they are. They're still them. They still have their personalities, you know, and they're.
00:56:56 Medium Natashia Mack
They're.
00:56:57 Medium Natashia Mack
They're still loving and they have those, those good intentions and connecting with them. It's like having conversation with you when, like, that's how it feels. It's just, it feels so natural and normal.
00:57:12 Medium Natashia Mack
Which is weird to say because it's actually so not as paranormal and it's it's.
00:57:18 Medium Natashia Mack
Super Strange, obviously, but not to me.
00:57:21 Lauren
Yeah, compared to a paranormal experience that will throw you off and be completely unlike what you do day-to-day.
00:57:30 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, exactly. Yes. Ohh gosh, yes, exactly so.
00:57:30 Lauren
Like a glitch in the matrix.
00:57:39 Medium Natashia Mack
There it is. Yeah. Yeah. Do you have another?
00:57:41 Lauren
I just think. Ohh yeah. Well, I just wanted to segue on being a kid and being afraid because I remember certain horror movies, completely traumatizing me as a team. Well, and I wish I had never been exposed to that stuff too young. Yeah, like my parents were cool and allowed us to watch whatever. But I kind of wish that they had.
00:57:42 Medium Natashia Mack
1.
00:57:43 Medium Natashia Mack
What were you going to say?
00:57:51
Oh.
00:57:55 Medium Natashia Mack
Same same.
00:58:02 Lauren
Created more clear boundaries just to protect me because.
00:58:05 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah.
00:58:06 Lauren
I was so sensitive to that kind of fear and maybe it wouldn't affect other kids as much as it would you and I, but we were sensitive to, to energy, to begin.
00:58:16 Lauren
With so that fear can really run rampant. And I distinctly remember being a little kid and I had trouble sleeping as well because I was always afraid of.
00:58:24 Lauren
Vampires and ghosts in the room, and my mom had made bought one of those clear spray bottles. She had filled it with water and she called it my ghost spray. So if I was, she kept it by my yeah, she kept it by my bedside table, and if I awoke and I was afraid, or if I couldn't get to bed, I would spray my ghost spray.
00:58:45 Lauren
And that would clear the energy and I could go back to sleep and.
00:58:49 Medium Natashia Mack
That is so smart.
00:58:49 Lauren
Was like.
00:58:50 Lauren
Yeah, it was a really good tool to like, supply a kid with because it kind of is like a physical way of.
00:58:56 Lauren
Showing them that they are the the one in power of their space and set the tone right.
00:59:03 Medium Natashia Mack
Exactly. I love that I bet you someone's gonna hear that tip and.
00:59:07 Medium Natashia Mack
They're going to use it.
00:59:09 Lauren
It worked for me.
00:59:12 Medium Natashia Mack
I love that. OK. Well, do you happen to have another story?
00:59:17 Lauren
I do have my Valentine's Day story. Do you think that one?
00:59:20 Medium Natashia Mack
OK.
00:59:22 Lauren
Yes.
00:59:23 Medium Natashia Mack
We're going to end it with that. You share that because I feel like that's the.
00:59:26 Medium Natashia Mack
Perfect.
00:59:28 Medium Natashia Mack
Way to wrap this up, you guys. This story still blows my mind. So yeah, let's.
00:59:33 Medium Natashia Mack
Let's go there.
00:59:34 Lauren
OK. Yeah, we're going to go there and this gets weird. If it wasn't weird already. All right, it's a two-part story because it was 2 events, one after another in the same night. So I don't remember the year, but it was some time in the past.
00:59:52 Lauren
A decade ago, maybe somewhere between 10 and 13 years ago.
00:59:57 Lauren
I was living alone in an apartment. My one bedroom apartment I was renting when I was single. I was single for like a six year period. I kind of dated around, but I was more or less solo. I was riding so low as they say.
01:00:18 Lauren
And like oftentimes, you can't stop my shine. When I was riding so.
01:00:22 Lauren
Well, but particularly at around Valentine's Day, I was so damn bitter to be.
01:00:28 Medium Natashia Mack
You guys, this woman who's so bubbly and cheery and joyful on a regular day. ******* hated Valentine's Day.
01:00:36 Lauren
I became Egor. I wouldn't want to talk about it. I want to scratch it off the calendar. I want to pretend it wasn't even coming and hadn't even passed. And if a loved one of mine, like a friend or one of my parents, gave me a sweet little Valentine or some chocolates, kind of like show me that I was loved, I would be so angry at them and I would roll my eyes.
01:00:39
Yeah.
01:00:56 Lauren
And it was all because I just really wanted love. And I was lonely, especially on Valentine's Day.
01:01:03 Medium Natashia Mack
So shadow to all the solo riders who are bitter on Valentine's Day. You're not alone in that. And one day you'll find your true love. But yes, like you did. Like I predicted. Which is, which is the story for another time. I literally predicted the person she is marrying. I'm not even kidding.
01:01:15
Which?
01:01:23 Medium Natashia Mack
Down to his green eyes, his.
01:01:26 Medium Natashia Mack
Ocean, which is so crazy, but again, we're going to have many parts to this, otherwise this episode is literally gonna be like 3 hours long. So yeah, keep going.
01:01:32 Lauren
Oh yeah, shout out to everyone who's still listening because you're very patient. But yeah, we have much so much more to talk about, but at the time I was single and I hated it at Valentine's Day. So it Valentine's Day fell on a Sunday because Family Day here in Canada had fallen on a Monday. It was a long weekend.
01:01:53 Lauren
And I was in my apartment. I went to bed, bitter and lonely, to be sleeping all alone and negative. So I awake, I awaken in sleep paralysis. And I had had short bouts of sleep paralysis before everyone. Kind of.
01:02:13 Lauren
Does when they're falling in and out of sleep, but this was the worst sleep paralysis I've ever experienced. I was stuck to my bed, lying flat on my.
01:02:23 Lauren
Back, I couldn't breathe. There was a weight on my chest and I could sense and hear a ********* on the left hand side of my head. It it sounded as if, like literally a swirl or portal or door was opening. It was like static.
01:02:42 Lauren
And it was horrifying. And immediately in the moment, all I could think to say was, God, please help me. And at the time in my negativity and loneliness, I had kind of fallen away from God and lost my faith because I was angry.
01:03:01 Lauren
But you know, in the instant that I said, God, please help me. I was released from this hold and I saw this blast of blue blue light just like sweep across my room and sweep across my whole, you know, being and I I strongly feel that that was a.
01:03:21 Lauren
Archangel Michael making himself known.
01:03:22 Medium Natashia Mack
So yeah. Ohh yeah, him with the blue.
01:03:26 Lauren
We love Mike. He's our protector and he's got our back and.
01:03:33 Lauren
What had really stood out to me about it was that it wasn't a second after I asked God for help or there was no leg. It was the instant that I asked God for help. He answered, and that that truly, like, moved me. So I jumped out of bed. I threw on the light and I I just sat.
01:03:53 Lauren
In my bed for a while and reflected on like what brought me here. And I thought that, you know, I was being a negative Nancy and I just had to turn back to God and.
01:04:05 Lauren
You know, except where I was and.
01:04:09 Lauren
So I I kind of had a chat with him. I asked for forgiveness for, you know, falling away and and not being grateful for my life and everything I had and all the people I did have.
01:04:18 Lauren
And, you know, thanked Michael for assisting me there too. And I went back to bed.
01:04:26 Lauren
Between that time and the morning, I had the weirdest dream I've ever had.
01:04:32 Lauren
I'm a pisces. I have.
01:04:33 Lauren
Weird dreams, but this one.
01:04:36 Lauren
Really floored me and the following day I met with my dad because it was Family Day and we went to dinner and I I said, dad, I gotta tell you about this weird dream. I explained it all to him and he told me you better do some research because I think you were time traveling.
01:04:54 Lauren
So, he said. Have you ever heard of the Saint Valentine's Day massacre? No, I haven't.
01:05:02 Lauren
After I watched a couple of documentaries on it, listen to some podcasts. My dream was a play by play of the Valentine's Day massacre. So in the early 30's, the gangster time in Chicago on Valentine's Day, there was an ordered hit by Al Capone.
01:05:23 Lauren
Against some of his own gangsters and an abandoned warehouse, they called it the Valentine's Day massacre because it was a bloodbath.
01:05:33 Lauren
And uh.
01:05:34 Lauren
In my dream, and I guess these gangsters had dressed up as cops in order to throw off the gangsters, they were ordered to hit.
01:05:44 Lauren
I I'm forgetting all the details, but my dream I was kind of like an omniscient viewer.
01:05:50 Lauren
Of the actual massacre, I'm in a room in an abandoned warehouse.
01:05:56 Lauren
And there are some gangsters who come up and there's two or three guys lined up and they just opened fire and I'm getting sprayed and sprayed and sprayed. It's like those old Tommy guns from the 1930s. I'm getting sprayed in blood. Somehow I slip out of the room, I run down a staircase. I exit the building.
01:06:16 Lauren
And there's it's snowy, so I'm running through the snow.
01:06:20 Lauren
To the road where I see a cop vehicle, there's like a K9 unit cop van. And there are two cops sitting in this van.
01:06:32 Lauren
Was a German shepherd dog and I could still hear the bloodbath going on in the building. 1 of the cop looks at me. He looks me up and down and he says, is that your blood or someone else's? And I say someone elses and he chuckles at me. Doesn't do anything.
01:06:48 Lauren
And I get this. And he says jump on in with us and I get the sense that I can't trust this cop. He's a fake cop. I better run. So instead of jumping in the vehicle, I I run into the woods and I'm bare feet for some reason. So I'm I'm running bare feet through the snowy woods, like in someone else's blood.
01:07:07 Lauren
And that's where I wake up and.
01:07:10 Lauren
It just parallels so many of the details of the Valentine's Day massacre.
01:07:16 Lauren
That it's spooky. And it was Valentine's Day that I dreamt it.
01:07:20 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh my God.
01:07:22 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm chills and I kept getting chills. But like, I've goosebumps on top of goosebumps.
01:07:28 Lauren
Yeah. So period.
01:07:28 Medium Natashia Mack
I remember the first time you telling me that story, and I remember like the where you describing the warehouse and yeah, the blood splattering and just the Tommy guns and everything. And I just remember like.
01:07:42 Medium Natashia Mack
Because this was before we were.
01:07:45 Medium Natashia Mack
Even that spiritual yeah. Before we were aware. And I just remember being like, whoa, like, what the ****?
01:07:45 Lauren
A win.
01:07:52 Lauren
Yeah, exactly. And so I've spoken to other people about it, and I have a couple theories either that was a memory from maybe a past life that I was there and that's why I carry such a hate word. Hate hatred towards Valentine's Day up until now that I'm in.
01:08:10 Lauren
Love.
01:08:11 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah.
01:08:12 Lauren
Or.
01:08:12 Lauren
Maybe just my negative vibration attracted me to witness something like that in in sleep because I was on that wavelength, right?
01:08:23 Medium Natashia Mack
I almost wonder if it could be a mixture of it, but you know the first thing of course that pops in my mind is like it's a memory from another lifetime. But I wondered if.
01:08:36 Medium Natashia Mack
You know, God and you know, maybe your higher self share that with you to help you understand why you had such a negative vibration around Valentine's Day, right. To just kind of like give you some awareness of this is where it comes from. So you could release this type of thing.
01:08:53 Lauren
Maybe. Yeah, that is such an interesting point of view. Either a memory of my own or just a one that's in the psyche of humanity, because that was a huge event that shook like the world at the time too. And in our collective consciousness.
01:09:05 Medium Natashia Mack
Right.
01:09:08 Medium Natashia Mack
For sure. Yeah, we'll never know. Yeah, I know. I feel like we could go on forever, but that's just, like, such, like, I feel like we saved the best for last, for sure, though. Such an awesome story. And this was so much fun when, like.
01:09:10 Lauren
Probably something else we could talk about.
01:09:23 Lauren
Yeah, it really was a lot of time has passed. I didn't realize.
01:09:26 Medium Natashia Mack
I know, I know, which is so wild, but I mean it's cause we're having so much fun and.
01:09:32 Medium Natashia Mack
I I feel like.
01:09:34 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, people are gonna. I really enjoy these stories. So if you guys loved these stories and love, you know, hearing Ren and I together definitely let us know. We would love to hear your feedback also. You know, if you want us to read your stories, you better submit them so that we can, we could even leave you anonymous.
01:09:55 Medium Natashia Mack
Uh, if you prefer.
01:09:58 Medium Natashia Mack
You know, we could change names and stuff, but I just. I think that would be so cool and yeah, so thank you, Ren. So, so much for coming on here and having fun with me and just sharing with all of my listeners. I'm really excited for them to hear this and get to know you too.
01:10:19 Medium Natashia Mack
And yeah, I we're going to do.
01:10:20 Lauren
This again? Ohh yes, thank you so much for having me. It was a pleasure and an honor to hang out with you all too. And I hope you guys enjoyed. I can't wait to hopefully share some of your stories and and read what's been up to you cuz I'm so curious about this stuff as well and.
01:10:38 Lauren
Yeah. Thanks, Tash again for having me. I hope to talk with you guys again soon.
01:10:44 Medium Natashia Mack
All right. Bye, guys.
The Hot Mess Medium Show Ep. 17 - Boundaries, Calling Your Power Back & Creating Space for New Beginnings
Hey guys! In this episode, I'm sharing about the big themes I've noticed coming up collectively & also personally: setting boundaries, reclaiming/calling back your personal power (from situations, people & things) & how you can start creating space for new beginnings.
I also share a bit about:
How we are collectively in a 9 year and what that means (& how you can discover what your own personal year theme)
How I am currently setting myself up for success
How to actually call in your future self (right now)
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Transcript
00:00:00 Medium Natashia Mack
Welcome back to the homeless medium show. I'm your host medium, Natasha Mack.
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And.
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It's been a while, but I got the inspiration to come on and talk about.
00:00:15 Medium Natashia Mack
Boundaries, because that's been a theme that's been coming up for me all of May and I don't know if you saw this or not, but.
00:00:25 Medium Natashia Mack
I actually channeled.
00:00:28 Medium Natashia Mack
Maize.
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Mantra and the mantra was I am now reclaiming my energy from the people, places and things that no longer align with me. I'm saying goodbye to whatever has been sucking my energy dry when I resist, persists. Oh my God *****.
00:00:48 Medium Natashia Mack
Are so hard for.
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Me.
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I am ready to let go, surrender and embrace the miracles, blessings, and opportunities available to me now with arms wide open.
00:00:59 Medium Natashia Mack
And.
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And I don't know about you, but.
00:01:02 Medium Natashia Mack
You know, I I I had channeled that like May 1st or something like that. I yeah, I think it was like right at the beginning of May.
00:01:08 Medium Natashia Mack
And that has been just that whole theme has been showing up in my life and for me personally in so many ways this entire month and.
00:01:20 Medium Natashia Mack
You know, now that I've shared that with you, I'm so curious if you've also been able to, uh or you are also able to connect with those words. You know, if they resonate with you, if they align for you, if you've noticed these opportunities, let's call them coming up.
00:01:40 Medium Natashia Mack
For you to reclaim your energy back for you to reclaim your power back from certain situations or people or things, right? I know.
00:01:52 Medium Natashia Mack
Like a lot of the people in my circle, a lot of people I talked to, I've noticed it's coming up for them, so it it does feel like a collective thing and.
00:02:02 Medium Natashia Mack
You know what was popping into my head after I I read that to you was how.
00:02:10 Medium Natashia Mack
You know, we in in order to welcome in.
00:02:14 Medium Natashia Mack
The new right, whether it's blessings, opportunities.
00:02:21 Medium Natashia Mack
Whatever it is you're trying to call in, we have to Createspace for it, right? We have to make room for that. And so oftentimes that requires us to let go of something we have to.
00:02:34 Medium Natashia Mack
Let go of the drama. Toxic situations, even relationships. Think of the things that consume you on a regular basis, right? It's consuming you, so it's taking up space, it's taking up energy. Your personal power is leaking.
00:02:55 Medium Natashia Mack
Into it.
00:02:57 Medium Natashia Mack
So in order for you to Createspace for new energy to come in, you've got to call back your energy, but also, you know, free up some of that energy that is leaking into those people, places and things, maybe even jobs. You know, I do feel like.
00:03:16 Medium Natashia Mack
This is the year, like 2025 is a nine year right because when you add up?
00:03:23 Medium Natashia Mack
2025 it is, it equals 9 and 9 represents.
00:03:30 Medium Natashia Mack
Kind of like think of it as like we're wrapping it up. We're wrapping it up. It's coming to an end, maybe a bit of chaos, but.
00:03:39 Medium Natashia Mack
It needs to happen in order to, you know, create that peace and space. Things are ending in order for new beginnings to take place. So when you think of that, like, that's the theme of this year. And yes, you know, we of course have personal themes, but then we have collective themes. So keep that in mind, right.
00:03:59 Medium Natashia Mack
Whatever your age is, you know not that I'm a numerologist. Whatever. I'm very intuitive when it comes to numbers, but if you were to add up your age, you know, then you'd come up with a number and then that would be, you know, your personal theme of the year. And you can easily Google that. Like for me, I'm 34.
00:04:19 Medium Natashia Mack
Is here so.
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Oh my God. Ohh that equals.
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7.
00:04:26 Medium Natashia Mack
Right 3 = 4 = 7 and So I'm having a personal seven-year. I actually haven't even looked that up. I'm I'm going to do.
00:04:34
That.
00:04:35 Medium Natashia Mack
OK, I literally just Googled personal seven-year numerology and here's what came up. It says in numerology a personal year 7 is characterized by introspection, spiritual growth, and seeking deeper understanding of oneself and the world around. It's a time of reflection, solitude and focusing on personal development.
00:04:56 Medium Natashia Mack
This year encourages you to trust your intuition and inner wisdom.
00:05:00 Medium Natashia Mack
That is so interesting. I am. I could definitely relate to that. I do feel like I have grown so much spiritually already.
00:05:08 Medium Natashia Mack
Not in a way where I'm, like, woo, holier than thou and like I've grown so much spiritual wisdom. No, not like that.
00:05:16 Medium Natashia Mack
Really just coming to a deeper understanding of where I stand spiritually, what aligns with me spiritually, what my values are spiritually, I feel like I'm becoming more grounded and rooted into those, and that's because of my experiences, like the experiences I've had this year.
00:05:37 Medium Natashia Mack
Ready. And I just. I feel. Yeah, I feel like that really resonates and.
00:05:44 Medium Natashia Mack
Anyways so.
00:05:46 Medium Natashia Mack
I went off on a completely different topic, but you know, I'd invite you to check out what your personal year is.
00:05:55 Medium Natashia Mack
But anyways, going back to the collective, the collective year, you know, we're like I said, we're at 9:00, so it makes a lot of sense that there's so many themes coming up around needing to communicate better, needing to advocate.
00:06:13 Medium Natashia Mack
And to set healthy, loving boundaries. Right. These are all things that come up when we're needing to. Createspace when we're needing to let go, when we're needing to create changes that are going to then allow for this new energy to come into our lives.
00:06:33 Medium Natashia Mack
Something that I heard.
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In my mind last week, sometimes you know the things that I hear, they're they're coming from. They're coming from spirit. And so, yeah, yes, or oh, my God. Last week, what I heard was be OK with the disappointing people.
00:06:55 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh, and if you are a fellow empath or fellow people pleaser, you.
00:07:00 Medium Natashia Mack
Know how much that sucks? You know that? Or maybe you know for you as well, like it has been for me, you know, maybe it's been ingrained in you, like programmed in you from a very young age to not disappoint people. That that is, like the worst thing ever to know that you've disappointed.
00:07:20 Medium Natashia Mack
Someone right when you would, when your parents or you know whoever your guardian or whoever was, you know, maybe a teacher.
00:07:29 Medium Natashia Mack
Told you that they were disappointed in you.
00:07:32 Medium Natashia Mack
Like, where do you feel that in your body like I almost feel like I could throw up just hearing that I feel it like deep in my core, like in my solar plexus where, you know, my personal power is it's so weird.
00:07:48 Medium Natashia Mack
Kind of like in the center of my stomach but anyways.
00:07:53 Medium Natashia Mack
For me, like that's a big wound. So to know that I disappointed someone as a grown *** adult.
00:08:01 Medium Natashia Mack
It's still. I still feel it in my body because I'm highly clear, sentient and.
00:08:10 Medium Natashia Mack
So anyways.
00:08:11 Medium Natashia Mack
When I heard that I was like, oh, I know this means that I'm going to have opportunities to disappoint people and I'm going to.
00:08:19 Medium Natashia Mack
Have to be OK with that.
00:08:21 Medium Natashia Mack
And.
00:08:23 Medium Natashia Mack
Sure enough, I had plenty of opportunities to do that. And you know, it's not on purpose. It was just these situations that occurred where I literally had to put my well-being first. I had to put my.
00:08:39 Medium Natashia Mack
Health first, I had to put.
00:08:42 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, myself 1st and I'm not used to that. Uh, you know, it's something I've been learning and and growing with and and towards, you know, I've.
00:08:58 Medium Natashia Mack
Like I you know, as a mom of of four and and a wife. And you know, a woman who loves her family, loves her friends. Like it's something that is hard to do right. And maybe you can relate to this no matter.
00:09:13 Medium Natashia Mack
Who you are.
00:09:15 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm sure it's like something that.
00:09:19 Medium Natashia Mack
You're just.
00:09:20 Medium Natashia Mack
Still learning? Or maybe you're practicing getting better at putting yourself first, right, no matter where you're at, there's still going to be some challenges when it comes to putting yourself first. Whether it's hearing that little voice in your head saying that you're selfish or, you know, the fact that you're constantly worried about other people or have to make sure everyone else is taken care of.
00:09:41 Medium Natashia Mack
1st and UM. So for me it's just it's still something that I'm navigating, but I've definitely gotten so much better at like I'm OK with, you know.
00:09:54 Medium Natashia Mack
Going out without my husband and kids and and I know that they're going to be taking care of and you know, I'm I'm OK with having like.
00:10:06 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, just that time away to kind of take care of myself or whatever.
00:10:10 Medium Natashia Mack
But I find I still struggle when it comes to. Like let's say you know, I'm really not well and I have to reschedule my clients. Oh my God, that feels so horrible to do. So horrible to do. And I often will go back and forth in my mind like no, maybe I could just do it like.
00:10:30 Medium Natashia Mack
I should just do it, but then other times when.
00:10:32 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm like, yeah, but no, I I want to make sure that I give them the best that I could possibly give them, and I really can't do that right now. So that wouldn't be fair to anyone. But then there's still, like, you know, I I'm, I'm still having to navigate the that inner voice or the inner voices that are kind of battling for who's going to take.
00:10:53 Medium Natashia Mack
Like, who's taking charge here? Who's making the decision? So I find, like.
00:10:57 Medium Natashia Mack
That's.
00:10:59 Medium Natashia Mack
And something that I still struggle with and that I'm practicing on getting better at. But anyways, back to what I was saying.
00:11:06 Medium Natashia Mack
You know, there's still that discomfort when it comes to disappointing people, so I was given an opportunity or a several opportunities to practice that. And I noticed that I actually handled it so much better than I would.
00:11:26 Medium Natashia Mack
Before you know, and sometimes we are. That's like what's coming through right now. Right now. Spirits like make sure you bring that up. Someone needs to hear this.
00:11:35 Medium Natashia Mack
That sometimes we are given these opportunities to do these uncomfortable things to actually show ourselves how much we've grown.
00:11:46 Medium Natashia Mack
And that's the gift. That's the blessing.
00:11:50 Medium Natashia Mack
Because these things like, you know, the opportunities that came up for me personally, are things that would have caused a lot more distress, a lot more discomfort.
00:11:59 Medium Natashia Mack
UM and I noticed that.
00:12:03 Medium Natashia Mack
It wasn't as bad this time, and I'm like, wow, that's awesome. Like, I was able to move through that so much quicker. I was able to let it go so much quicker. It wasn't stuck to me or, you know, going, you know, spiraling in my brain for as long.
00:12:19 Medium Natashia Mack
And that is such a gift to know that, like, wow, this means the next time this comes up, it's not going to take up so much time and energy or so much space in my brain. And what a gift that is. So I want you to, like, recognize that the next time you have an opportunity to do something and you're like, wow.
00:12:41 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm a whole new person. Or wow, you know, pass me would have really struggled with this, but current me is handling this like a champ and I want you to be, like, so proud of yourself because it shows how much you've grown. It shows how much strength you've gained. It shows how resilient you are.
00:13:01 Medium Natashia Mack
And umm, that's just such a beautiful thing.
00:13:04 Medium Natashia Mack
Too often, we are so focused on the things we dislike about ourselves or you know, the things that we're not good at and and so very rarely do we take the opportunity to actually acknowledge wow, you know, I did really good with this. That's really awesome.
00:13:24 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm going to give myself a pat on the back so the next thing that's coming up to share right now is that when it comes to practicing setting boundaries, that's exactly what it is. It's a practice.
00:13:38 Medium Natashia Mack
I don't want you to think.
00:13:40 Medium Natashia Mack
That it has to be this, like, super intense hard thing. And I mean, yes, it might feel that way, but I'm. I'm just saying, like, if this doesn't mean you have to like.
00:13:53 Medium Natashia Mack
Completely cut ties completely shut someone out.
00:14:00 Medium Natashia Mack
Quit your job like you know what I mean. It doesn't have to be an extreme, and that's what's really important because I do find that unfortunately, like society or even, I don't know, like, I kind of want to go there. Like, sometimes even in the spiritual community, you know.
00:14:19 Medium Natashia Mack
There's too much coming out about extremes.
00:14:25 Medium Natashia Mack
And and that's not for everyone, right? It might be for some, some people, but it's not for everyone. And so what's coming through right now for me to share with you is.
00:14:34 Medium Natashia Mack
Like, is there an opportunity here for you to communicate how you're feeling? Is there an opportunity to advocate for yourself and for what you're needing?
00:14:48 Medium Natashia Mack
Right and set versus like running away or shutting things down completely?
00:14:53 Medium Natashia Mack
Is.
00:14:55 Medium Natashia Mack
They're room for growth here.
00:14:58 Medium Natashia Mack
Is there?
00:15:01 Medium Natashia Mack
Space for you to kind of step more into your power and say what you need to say or share what you need to share.
00:15:11 Medium Natashia Mack
There's there's something coming through here.
00:15:15 Medium Natashia Mack
You know, for my listeners, for you guys about.
00:15:20 Medium Natashia Mack
Like maybe they're. Yeah. Maybe there's room for growth. So interesting. Like maybe space is being cleared or a path is being cleared. So that way you can step forward into it versus running away from it or backing away.
00:15:35 Medium Natashia Mack
And owning.
00:15:38 Medium Natashia Mack
Your power more taking up more space, using your voice, communicating what it is that you need and obviously like I just need to point this out like.
00:15:51 Medium Natashia Mack
Obviously.
00:15:53 Medium Natashia Mack
Like, use your discernment when it comes to this. I'm not talking to those who are in a deeply abusive relationship or anything like that. This is not. This is not advice for you. So again, please use your discernment.
00:16:13 Medium Natashia Mack
When listening to this, I'm talking to the people who are in.
00:16:19 Medium Natashia Mack
You know who are at a job where things are are unfair or they're not being treated fairly.
00:16:27 Medium Natashia Mack
Or maybe you know they're in.
00:16:30 Medium Natashia Mack
Maybe they are in a relationship where?
00:16:32 Medium Natashia Mack
There, there's just a lack of communication and there's this feeling of, you know, being unfulfilled or, you know, unhappy. There's a lot of room there for growth and for communication and for, you know, stepping outside of your comfort zone and taking up a bit more space, advocating for yourself.
00:16:52 Medium Natashia Mack
That's kind of what I'm talking about here, and I just wanted to make sure that was clear or, you know, just.
00:16:59 Medium Natashia Mack
Maybe it for some of you. It's in the online space. Like maybe you have been playing it very small. Maybe you've been, you know, hiding your face. Hiding yourself like not using your voice and just kind of hoping that people will grasp to.
00:17:16 Medium Natashia Mack
You know the words that you're putting out there, but maybe they really want to see your face and hear your voice. You know, so.
00:17:24 Medium Natashia Mack
I feel like I'm going in a completely different direction than what I thought because I was talking about.
00:17:29 Medium Natashia Mack
Boundaries.
00:17:31 Medium Natashia Mack
Anyways, going back though to boundaries.
00:17:38 Medium Natashia Mack
So yeah, it doesn't have to be this extreme thing. You could practice setting those boundaries by saying. Actually I'm not comfortable with that.
00:17:52 Medium Natashia Mack
Actually I you know, that's just that's just not for me and that's OK.
00:18:00 Medium Natashia Mack
Right. Or or saying no, not today. Thank you though. Like there's so many.
00:18:08 Medium Natashia Mack
Ways to navigate it without having to over explain yourself and feeling terrible after like, remember that.
00:18:18 Medium Natashia Mack
The thoughts that are coming through that are telling you that you know, whoever it is that you're going to set a boundary with is going to think that you're a horrible person and Oh my God, they're going to come after you and all these bad things are going to happen. You know, that's not real. Like, just remember that that voice is going to try to protect you as much as possible, and it's going to say things and show you things.
00:18:41 Medium Natashia Mack
To help protect you as much as possible. But does it mean that it's true?
00:18:46 Medium Natashia Mack
Right.
00:18:47 Medium Natashia Mack
Again, not talking about people who are in active abusive relationships, but.
00:18:56 Medium Natashia Mack
You know, in other situations, other circumstances.
00:19:01 Medium Natashia Mack
Most of the time, you know those things aren't going to happen. Yes, it is possible for someone to have an emotional response to what you're saying or a reaction to what you're saying, which these are things that we are not in control of. We are not in control of how someone's going to react or respond to you setting a loving boundary.
00:19:20 Medium Natashia Mack
Or you saying no or whatever it is, no matter how you're communicating something.
00:19:27 Medium Natashia Mack
But I'm just I I feel like this is the invitation, you know? And it's again something you could practice. Small, very small. Not this like a big thing that's going.
00:19:40 Medium Natashia Mack
To.
00:19:40 Medium Natashia Mack
Like cause your nervous system to just like.
00:19:45 Medium Natashia Mack
Go wild, right?
00:19:48 Medium Natashia Mack
Another thing that's just popping up right now.
00:19:51 Medium Natashia Mack
Is how sometimes we have the set boundaries with ourselves.
00:19:56 Medium Natashia Mack
And that can be one of the.
00:19:57 Medium Natashia Mack
Hardest ones?
00:19:59 Medium Natashia Mack
Right when you have to.
00:20:03 Medium Natashia Mack
Decide to.
00:20:07 Medium Natashia Mack
You know, channel your inner parent.
00:20:10 Medium Natashia Mack
And set some loving boundaries with yourself.
00:20:15
1st.
00:20:18 Medium Natashia Mack
And maybe this is coming through because for some of you, that's how you're going to just practice.
00:20:24 Medium Natashia Mack
Setting boundaries in general like.
00:20:27 Medium Natashia Mack
What's something that you've been putting off for a really long time?
00:20:31 Medium Natashia Mack
What something that you've told yourself time and time again that like.
00:20:37 Medium Natashia Mack
You you've got to stop doing this, but you keep doing it.
00:20:42 Medium Natashia Mack
Maybe it's OK first thing in the morning.
00:20:46 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm not gonna grab my phone and start scrolling because I know how I feel afterwards. I know I don't feel good afterwards. I know that it takes up so much of my morning and then I just feel so blah the rest of the day.
00:21:01 Medium Natashia Mack
So then you decide to set a boundary.
00:21:03 Medium Natashia Mack
To not do that anymore. So that way you can instead get up and start your day, right, and then do a bit of scrolling or whatever it is.
00:21:13 Medium Natashia Mack
But like starting to set yourself up for success instead of.
00:21:17 Medium Natashia Mack
Continuing to do things that you know drain your energy or take up so much space.
00:21:23 Medium Natashia Mack
And that.
00:21:25 Medium Natashia Mack
You know.
00:21:26 Medium Natashia Mack
Do the opposite of setting you up for success, and that's just one example. But I mean, I'm sure that.
00:21:33 Medium Natashia Mack
There's so many others, and for me personally.
00:21:37 Medium Natashia Mack
Something I've been navigating is like since UM.
00:21:43 Medium Natashia Mack
Since ending radiation treatment at at the beginning of the April.
00:21:50 Medium Natashia Mack
I've been really committed to my health.
00:21:55 Medium Natashia Mack
And wanting to make sure that I am nourishing myself with.
00:22:01 Medium Natashia Mack
Nourishing foods you know, foods that I know.
00:22:05 Medium Natashia Mack
Are going to help heal me and help me feel good. You know, mind, body and spirit. And so that means that I I know the foods that don't do that for me and that make me feel so.
00:22:19 Medium Natashia Mack
Inflamed and, you know, retain a bunch of water in my body. And. And I get sore and stiff or whatever. Or make me really tired.
00:22:30 Medium Natashia Mack
Especially now being off caffeine, I'm so much more mindful of that and UM, so that is just like a boundary that I've I've started to set with myself. And this doesn't mean like I'm super strict. I can never have, you know, chocolate or anything like that. That's not what I'm saying. It's just, I mean that I'm not going to go back to.
00:22:52 Medium Natashia Mack
The habits that I had prior to radiation and and the reason I'm bringing up radiation is because, of course I, you know, like almost starved for six weeks. So it's kind of like my body went through a reset and.
00:23:13 Medium Natashia Mack
Starved, obviously because of the pain and everything that I went through. But anyways.
00:23:18 Medium Natashia Mack
I went, my body went through a bit of a reset, so there was an opportunity for me to kind of like start fresh, you know, and UM, anyway, so that's just like an area where I'm setting boundaries. Same with, you know, another boundary I'm setting with myself.
00:23:33 Medium Natashia Mack
I don't know if this technically classifies as the boundary, but anyways is like no, I'm going to.
00:23:39 Medium Natashia Mack
Make sure that I am meal prepping, making sure that I am.
00:23:44 Medium Natashia Mack
You know, making food for myself ahead of time so that I always have something on hand that I can eat that I know will nourish me, you know, versus no, I'm too tired. I'm just going to leave it. No, I'm too tired. I'm just going to or I'm, you know, I'd rather do this. So I'm just going to.
00:24:01 Medium Natashia Mack
You know, let future me figure it out. I'm so done with letting future me figure.
00:24:06 Medium Natashia Mack
Things out I want to like present me wants to take care of future me. I want to put things in place that's going to help me succeed.
00:24:16 Medium Natashia Mack
And I really want to take better care of myself. And, you know, these things require new habits. It's not something that's just going to magically happen. And it's so weird how the brain can kind of trick you like that, right? That it's like you want some.
00:24:36 Medium Natashia Mack
Thing and you dream about this and you have this vision for how you want your life to be. But then you think that you're going to get there with the same habits that you currently have, and that's not the way that it works at all. It literally requires.
00:24:51 Medium Natashia Mack
New habits, like how would future me handle this? How would future me do this right? Like what would she be doing differently? Sometimes it's a matter of like tapping into that, tuning into that for me.
00:25:05 Medium Natashia Mack
Like with with the vision that I have while you know future me is meal prepping and you know going for daily walks and taking care of taking care of herself and thinking of future self. So I'm starting that now and I've I've noticed I've already developed some some new habits.
00:25:25 Medium Natashia Mack
Just from you.
00:25:27 Medium Natashia Mack
You know.
00:25:28 Medium Natashia Mack
Just from starting with like 1 here, one there and then it just it seems to get easier and easier so.
00:25:36 Medium Natashia Mack
I hope that what I've shared.
00:25:38 Medium Natashia Mack
Supports you in some way at to some capacity. I hope that, yeah, that this was helpful for you and it kind of you know, gets you to reflect and to think of, OK, what are some of the things that my intuition, you know that inner?
00:25:56 Medium Natashia Mack
Nagging.
00:25:59 Medium Natashia Mack
Voice has been kind of like bugging me to do, but I've been putting it off or, you know, I just decide every day to continue the cycle or continue the habit.
00:26:12 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, those are just things to kind of reflect on.
00:26:16 Medium Natashia Mack
And you know, loving reminder and also permission slip to communicate, to advocate for yourself and what it is that you're needing, right, whether it's with your doctor.
00:26:30 Medium Natashia Mack
Your or your partner or at work like or even. You know you're ordering something at the restaurant and and you got something wrong like they they gave you the wrong thing. You're allowed to say like, hey, like just so you know, I got the wrong thing. Like you're allowed.
00:26:51 Medium Natashia Mack
To express yourself.
00:26:55 Medium Natashia Mack
And advocate for yourself and again these messages. You know, some of these messages coming through may not be for everyone. Maybe that's something you've totally mastered and amazing if you have. But then maybe there's certain other situations.
00:27:12 Medium Natashia Mack
Where?
00:27:15 Medium Natashia Mack
You haven't yet mastered it, and there's an invitation here for you to practice. So yeah. Anyways, thank you for listening.
00:27:25 Medium Natashia Mack
If you enjoyed this episode, definitely let me know. I'd love to hear from you guys and.
00:27:33 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, I'm sending you so much love.
The Hot Mess Medium Show EP. 16 Crossing the Threshold: A Message from you Higher Self for your Mind, Body & Spirit
Hey guys! Welcome back for another episode of the Hot Mess Medium Show.
In this short & sweet episode I intuitively channel some Divinely-timed messages and guidance for my listeners.
There's a theme of upheaval right now in the collective, as well as crossing the threshold from one part of your life into another, what this time means for you right now and how to navigate it with more ease & grace.
There's an opportunity to receive your own message from your Higher Self + inner knowing as you listen to this episode.
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Transcript
00:00:00 Medium Natashia Mack
Hey, guys. Welcome back to the hot mess medium show. I am really excited to be back. I'm I'm not like fully back, but I'm I'm here. It's been about a week and a day now since my very last radiation treatment. And so my voice is still not.
00:00:22 Medium Natashia Mack
Normal. I'm still a little bit raspy.
00:00:25 Medium Natashia Mack
And and I'm not quite ready yet to talk about the entire experience, but that will be coming like that is an episode that will come at some point, especially if that is something that you guys would like to.
00:00:42 Medium Natashia Mack
Hear about, just like my experience with it, what I learned from it, some of the things that I went through and just kind of.
00:00:50 Medium Natashia Mack
Where I'm at now and.
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How it's changed me because it truly has it's.
00:00:58 Medium Natashia Mack
Changed me mentally, emotionally, physically, spiritually.
00:01:03 Medium Natashia Mack
Parts of me died.
00:01:05 Medium Natashia Mack
Like for real, I feel completely different so.
00:01:10 Medium Natashia Mack
Anyways, that will be a whole other episode, but for this one I wanted to keep it short and sweet. I just kind of wanted to.
00:01:17 Medium Natashia Mack
You will get something out there that would be supportive for my listeners, so really treat for you guys. I wanted to come on and channel and share some messages and guidance that could be really helpful for you at this time. You know, right now we are mid-april, mid-april 2025. We are April 15th right now.
00:01:38 Medium Natashia Mack
UM.
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When I am, you know, recording this. But I know that whenever you are listening to this like whenever that happens, just trust in the divine timing of it. Trust that it was meant to be for you at this time.
00:01:53 Medium Natashia Mack
UM.
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I want to kind of feel into, you know, what's sort of coming up collectively for my listeners and what.
00:02:05 Medium Natashia Mack
What you kind of need to know right now, you know, maybe what your higher self wants you to know what spirit wants you to know. That could be really supportive in helping you navigate this time or even embracing this time. And I just I feel there's been a lot of themes coming up lately because even though I said, you know, I'm not like fully back yet.
00:02:26 Medium Natashia Mack
I have started doing. I started doing some readings.
00:02:32 Medium Natashia Mack
Like literally last week, a few days after my last treatment, and then I just did 2 today. I have a couple more this week and that's been feeling actually so nourishing for me, though, even though it might seem very soon to some people, for me it's just kind of helping me.
00:02:51 Medium Natashia Mack
Integrate back into regular life and getting out of you know, cancer life and it's it's been very nourishing honestly.
00:03:01 Medium Natashia Mack
So.
00:03:03 Medium Natashia Mack
Let's go ahead and get into this. I invite you to take a nice deep breath with me. Actually, let's do that together and through your nose.
00:03:13 Medium Natashia Mack
And out your mouth.
00:03:19 Medium Natashia Mack
And again in through your nose.
00:03:24 Medium Natashia Mack
And out your mouth.
00:03:30 Medium Natashia Mack
And I've already set my intention before even hitting record, so I'm just going to dive in and start sharing with you everything that's coming through my senses, every impression coming through every vision, everything that's coming through that you know is going to be.
00:03:46 Medium Natashia Mack
Whatever is meant to come through that you are meant to hear right now.
00:03:50 Medium Natashia Mack
The first word I'm hearing is upheaval. It feels like a lot has come to the surface or is coming to the surface to be sorted with and dealt with because you can't take this where you're going.
00:04:12 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm getting in my head a little bit because I do feel like this message is a little bit repeated in a way where, like I'm acknowledging how I've shared this message.
00:04:23 Medium Natashia Mack
Several times about how we're being prepared.
00:04:27 Medium Natashia Mack
But what spirit is coming in and reminding me of is that preparation takes time. It's not this like quick, easy fix. It's not something that is fixed overnight. It's not something that can be.
00:04:44 Medium Natashia Mack
Completed within a short amount of time, we have been being prepared for a long time now and they're so.
00:04:56 Medium Natashia Mack
Much truth to that, I know you could probably feel it. I know I feel it. I feel like I've been being prepared for so long now, you know? And it it comes in waves. Of course it comes and goes. It's not like this.
00:05:11 Medium Natashia Mack
This intensity.
00:05:14 Medium Natashia Mack
At full force all the time, I do like for me personally, I've I feel like I've been able to finally come to a space of relief.
00:05:23 Medium Natashia Mack
And.
00:05:25 Medium Natashia Mack
I feel like I've crossed that threshold and maybe there's a reason I'm sharing this because you're about to cross that threshold as well. You're about to, you know, like things are ramping up right now or maybe they have felt that way, but.
00:05:43 Medium Natashia Mack
They're about to.
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Finally.
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So I'm seeing the situation being diffused.
00:05:50 Medium Natashia Mack
Being lighter and just kind of coming to a halt.
00:05:55 Medium Natashia Mack
Which allows you to experience some relief and to finally be able to look back at what you just experienced and see how it all actually happened, exactly as it needed to in divine order and how it supported you to get you to exactly where you want to go.
00:06:14 Medium Natashia Mack
OK.
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So.
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There are things that we want. There are things that we desire. There are places we want to be. There are things we want to experience.
00:06:24 Medium Natashia Mack
But we don't always realize.
00:06:27 Medium Natashia Mack
At what cost?
00:06:29 Medium Natashia Mack
Right.
00:06:31 Medium Natashia Mack
You don't always realize what it's going to take to get us there. And so sometimes the challenges we're currently experiencing are literally happening to deliver us to where we want to go for, to where we're meant to be to what we're meant to experience.
00:06:47 Medium Natashia Mack
So this message of like delivery is coming through now like not only have you been being prepared, but you're about to be delivered, you're about to be delivered to the.
00:07:00 Medium Natashia Mack
New home this next phase this.
00:07:05 Medium Natashia Mack
The space of overwhelming gratitude just being so grateful that you finally made it. You got to that checkpoint and just experiencing this new.
00:07:20 Medium Natashia Mack
Life for yourself, because that's what it feels like. It feels like for some of you. It's like life is going to be breathed back into your.
00:07:28 Medium Natashia Mack
Life because for some of you you've been running off of fumes for so long, you've been so depleted for so long, or like, it just feels like you haven't been able to tend to your own needs or your own soul or your own spirit for such a long time. And the time is now to like.
00:07:49 Medium Natashia Mack
Finally, tend to those needs to care for for yourself, mind, body and soul. Do not exclude one or the other. They all work together. It's a.
00:08:04 Medium Natashia Mack
You know, Holy Trinity or whatever it's it's they all need to be tended to. We cannot neglect 1 and expect the other two to thrive. You cannot neglect 1 and expect the other two to thrive.
00:08:18 Medium Natashia Mack
That is like such a.
00:08:21 Medium Natashia Mack
Potent.
00:08:23 Medium Natashia Mack
Message for us right now.
00:08:29 Medium Natashia Mack
That's coming through right now is like for so long.
00:08:33 Medium Natashia Mack
People have been neglecting one of the three or even 2 of the three, and expecting themselves to thrive. Wondering what am I doing wrong? What am I doing wrong?
00:08:46 Medium Natashia Mack
Looking for answers, searching for meaning, trying to figure it out, trying so hard to figure it out being so in.
00:08:51 Medium Natashia Mack
Their head right.
00:08:53 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm doing all these spiritual things that I'm neglecting my physical body, or I'm doing all of these spiritual things, but I'm neglecting my my, my mental state.
00:09:04 Medium Natashia Mack
Or I'm doing all of these things for my mental state, but I'm doing nothing for my spirit or I'm doing all these things for my physical body, but I'm completely neglecting my spirit.
00:09:18 Medium Natashia Mack
In my mind.
00:09:20 Medium Natashia Mack
OK, so that's the message here is.
00:09:24 Medium Natashia Mack
We must look at the three as a whole.
00:09:29 Medium Natashia Mack
That's what completes us, that's what.
00:09:32 Medium Natashia Mack
Brings us wholeness is tending to all three. So as you're listening to this, I want you to kind of notice what's popping up for you. What are you notice coming up for you because your intuition is paying attention as I'm sharing these words with you, it's listening. It's reacting. It's responding.
00:09:52 Medium Natashia Mack
And it's going to tell you exactly what areas you need to start tending to, and that's a part of this preparation.
00:10:02 Medium Natashia Mack
And that's a part of what's going to bring you to that new space that's going to help you get past this intense threshold that you're currently going through and onto the other side.
00:10:16 Medium Natashia Mack
What's so interesting about all this? And like what I feel called to share right now, which has a little bit to do about my journey with the radiation?
00:10:25 Medium Natashia Mack
Is that?
00:10:28 Medium Natashia Mack
You know, I literally went through this experience where.
00:10:32 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm, you know, part of me is being like burnt to a crisp. Right and.
00:10:39 Medium Natashia Mack
My.
00:10:41 Medium Natashia Mack
Physical body was just going through so much.
00:10:48 Medium Natashia Mack
Like I can't even describe the pain, the agony.
00:10:53 Medium Natashia Mack
The suffering that I experience.
00:10:55 Medium Natashia Mack
And.
00:10:57 Medium Natashia Mack
I had to face myself and face parts of myself in ways I hadn't before.
00:11:04 Medium Natashia Mack
For example.
00:11:05 Medium Natashia Mack
Food.
00:11:07 Medium Natashia Mack
Food and my physical body. The relationship that I've had with food has been so challenging my entire life and.
00:11:17 Medium Natashia Mack
I.
00:11:19 Medium Natashia Mack
During six weeks of radiation, I I literally.
00:11:23 Medium Natashia Mack
Had to forcefeed myself.
00:11:26 Medium Natashia Mack
And I had to deal with the most intense nausea I've ever experienced. Aside from, you know, morning sickness, being pregnant.
00:11:36 Medium Natashia Mack
And.
00:11:38 Medium Natashia Mack
I went through periods of like starvation. I literally did. I I lost.
00:11:46 Medium Natashia Mack
Over a pound a day.
00:11:49 Medium Natashia Mack
And.
00:11:52 Medium Natashia Mack
It was just, it was so wild to meet myself in that way.
00:11:58 Medium Natashia Mack
You're like.
00:12:00 Medium Natashia Mack
I had to force myself to eat for survival.
00:12:06 Medium Natashia Mack
And.
00:12:07 Medium Natashia Mack
There be like no joy or pleasure in the eating like 0.
00:12:14 Medium Natashia Mack
And.
00:12:17 Medium Natashia Mack
Again, I don't. It's like hard to talk about because I still don't have the words yet.
00:12:20 Medium Natashia Mack
For the experience, but.
00:12:23 Medium Natashia Mack
What I learned from that like now that I am able to start eating more.
00:12:29 Medium Natashia Mack
Despite the pain, like I'm obviously on, you know, medication to help me manage the pain and and the symptoms that I'm going through. But like now it's like I I have this, like clean slate. OK. I lost all this weight that I had been carrying since a very traumatic experience.
00:12:50 Medium Natashia Mack
In 2021.
00:12:53 Medium Natashia Mack
Like weight that just piled on.
00:12:56 Medium Natashia Mack
Since then, it and it was like a layer of protection. I know it was, and I've talked about it on here before. I I dealt with so much inflammation in my body. I dealt with Candida overgrowth. I dealt with, you know, headaches, migraines. So many gut issues. Like, I couldn't even. I don't even know where to start.
00:13:17 Medium Natashia Mack
There's so many gut.
00:13:17 Medium Natashia Mack
Issues.
00:13:18 Medium Natashia Mack
And.
00:13:21 Medium Natashia Mack
All of that literally vanished during those.
00:13:25 Medium Natashia Mack
Six weeks.
00:13:26 Medium Natashia Mack
Like now that I'm on the other side like.
00:13:28 Medium Natashia Mack
I lost those 20 lbs.
00:13:34 Medium Natashia Mack
The inflammation, the gut issues, the skin issues.
00:13:42 Medium Natashia Mack
It's kind of a weird like.
00:13:45 Medium Natashia Mack
Mind.
00:13:47 Medium Natashia Mack
F You know what I'm trying to say like.
00:13:50 Medium Natashia Mack
It's very strange. I feel like so much was burned away.
00:13:57 Medium Natashia Mack
Mind, body and spirit anyways.
00:14:01 Medium Natashia Mack
And now my relationship with food. I literally just want to eat to nourish my body, and I've I've been I have control now, which is so wild to me, like to be able to just.
00:14:13 Medium Natashia Mack
Literally just feed myself the food that nourishes me.
00:14:19 Medium Natashia Mack
And to be OK with that and.
00:14:23 Medium Natashia Mack
It's very new still.
00:14:27 Medium Natashia Mack
And like I'm sure there's going to be.
00:14:29 Medium Natashia Mack
You know other challenges ahead with it, but.
00:14:33 Medium Natashia Mack
I feel like I'm in a new body. It's the weirdest thing.
00:14:38 Medium Natashia Mack
And.
00:14:40 Medium Natashia Mack
Also.
00:14:43 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah. So anyways.
00:14:45 Medium Natashia Mack
What I'm trying to say is.
00:14:47 Medium Natashia Mack
Before all this, I.
00:14:50 Medium Natashia Mack
It was always so focused on the spiritual and the mental right taking care of those things.
00:14:58 Medium Natashia Mack
But then I wasn't thriving because my body was.
00:15:03 Medium Natashia Mack
Going through it, it was, you know, being neglected or.
00:15:07 Medium Natashia Mack
I don't even know if the right words. Maybe certain aspects were being neglected, but then other parts I just felt so lost. I felt like I didn't have control because I was experiencing these physical ailments that I didn't know have the answers for how to fix. I didn't. I didn't know how to heal it, you know, and then it's just so weird. I go through this.
00:15:29 Medium Natashia Mack
Six weeks of radiation.
00:15:32 Medium Natashia Mack
And then all of a sudden, those things have been.
00:15:35 Medium Natashia Mack
Kind of cured. It's very weird again. Still don't have, like, my mind wrapped around the whole thing.
00:15:41 Medium Natashia Mack
But.
00:15:43 Medium Natashia Mack
Anyways so.
00:15:46 Medium Natashia Mack
Now I feel like.
00:15:49 Medium Natashia Mack
I kind of get it the whole.
00:15:51 Medium Natashia Mack
Mind, body spirit thing, right?
00:15:54 Medium Natashia Mack
Before all this, like when when I first started, even just diving into spirituality, I remember just.
00:16:00 Medium Natashia Mack
Over consuming all of the spiritual things being so about spirituality.
00:16:06 Medium Natashia Mack
But then my mental state was neglected, you know.
00:16:11 Medium Natashia Mack
It's like I could kind of look back at all these times on this journey where.
00:16:16 Medium Natashia Mack
One was neglected or two were neglected or whatever and.
00:16:20 Medium Natashia Mack
And how?
00:16:23 Medium Natashia Mack
I didn't think to like look at that.
00:16:27 Medium Natashia Mack
I was trying all these different things and like looking outside of myself for all these different.
00:16:32 Medium Natashia Mack
Things and answers and ways and whatever.
00:16:36 Medium Natashia Mack
But it wasn't.
00:16:39 Medium Natashia Mack
Those that's like not it, like that's not.
00:16:46 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, I think you know what I'm trying to say.
00:16:49 Medium Natashia Mack
So now I just. I feel like I've.
00:16:53 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm experiencing it like what these messages are talking about about.
00:16:58 Medium Natashia Mack
How we have to look at all of it.
00:17:02 Medium Natashia Mack
Because you can have.
00:17:04 Medium Natashia Mack
The job you can have the money. You can have the body, but like is your soul happy?
00:17:12 Medium Natashia Mack
Right.
00:17:13 Medium Natashia Mack
You could you could pay these thousands of dollars to, like, get mental emotional support.
00:17:22 Medium Natashia Mack
You know, and go to gym like 10 hours a week or whatever.
00:17:26 Medium Natashia Mack
But like, how is your soul doing?
00:17:30 Medium Natashia Mack
They all need.
00:17:32 Medium Natashia Mack
Apart in your life, they all are a piece of the puzzle. They're all a piece of the pie and.
00:17:40 Medium Natashia Mack
That's what we have to remember.
00:17:42 Medium Natashia Mack
So.
00:17:44 Medium Natashia Mack
Let me just see if there's anything else that wants to come through.
00:17:53 Medium Natashia Mack
What I'm hearing now is, like your soul knows this, your soul is listening to this. Like, yeah, girl, this is what I'm talking about.
00:18:00 Medium Natashia Mack
Like this is.
00:18:00 Medium Natashia Mack
What I've been trying to tell you.
00:18:06 Medium Natashia Mack
Like if you.
00:18:06 Medium Natashia Mack
Are someone who has been trying to figure it out?
00:18:11 Medium Natashia Mack
You know what I'm talking about. You're on this hamster wheel of like, trying to find the answers.
00:18:16 Medium Natashia Mack
Of.
00:18:20 Medium Natashia Mack
Maybe even feeling stuck feeling stagnant or like when am I going to catch my break? Like when is it going to get better?
00:18:28 Medium Natashia Mack
You're you're just in that.
00:18:30 Medium Natashia Mack
Space of like being in your head and trying to figure.
00:18:32 Medium Natashia Mack
It out then.
00:18:35 Medium Natashia Mack
Like you are so meant to be hearing this right now because.
00:18:40 Medium Natashia Mack
I feel like.
00:18:42 Medium Natashia Mack
Your soul has literally been trying to tell you. I feel like you have the answers.
00:18:47 Medium Natashia Mack
And.
00:18:51 Medium Natashia Mack
It's time to start. Like, really?
00:18:54 Medium Natashia Mack
Tending to those deeper needs that you think you can keep putting off.
00:19:00 Medium Natashia Mack
But you can't keep putting off like, because that's where, like the answers are. That's. That's like.
00:19:07 Medium Natashia Mack
That's where you're going to figure it out is by actually tending to those needs. It's not in anything else or anywhere else. It's not something you can buy whatever it's like literally what's been nagging at you from deep within that is where you will find your truth. That's where you'll find your answers.
00:19:27 Medium Natashia Mack
The final piece here that I feel really called to mention because I keep hearing it is community.
00:19:33 Medium Natashia Mack
Something that I experience so much healing from was community being part of the Cancer Center felt like.
00:19:41 Medium Natashia Mack
It healed.
00:19:43 Medium Natashia Mack
Part of me.
00:19:44 Medium Natashia Mack
That was like.
00:19:48 Medium Natashia Mack
Not open to.
00:19:50 Medium Natashia Mack
Opening my heart to others and like receiving love, receiving support. I can't even explain it. But being part of that family.
00:20:00 Medium Natashia Mack
That team, having literally a whole team of helpers there for you every single day helping you get through one of the hardest times of your life.
00:20:11 Medium Natashia Mack
Talking to.
00:20:13 Medium Natashia Mack
Fellow, you know cancer patients who are literally going through the same thing, checking in on each other. You know, telling each other our stories, all of that.
00:20:22 Medium Natashia Mack
That did something to me.
00:20:26 Medium Natashia Mack
And I just further reinstated this.
00:20:30 Medium Natashia Mack
Core belief of mind that we need people, we need community we need.
00:20:35 Medium Natashia Mack
Togetherness.
00:20:37 Medium Natashia Mack
And if you haven't been able to find what you are searching for on your own, it's because you are meant to open your arms to being part of something.
00:20:49 Medium Natashia Mack
Whether you're meant to lead the circle or like you're meant to lead a gathering or facilitate something.
00:20:58 Medium Natashia Mack
Or if you're meant to go and be part of one, join a book club, see what's happening at the local library. Maybe there's some mom groups. Maybe there's a spirit circle like a moon circle or some sort of gathering, like, do something to put yourself out there and just connect with other people.
00:21:18 Medium Natashia Mack
It's just so incredible what happened.
00:21:21 Medium Natashia Mack
To you mind, body and soul, when you start opening yourself up to new relationships, new people.
00:21:29 Medium Natashia Mack
And.
00:21:31 Medium Natashia Mack
Learning through those experiences.
00:21:34 Medium Natashia Mack
That could literally be one of the like missing.
00:21:38 Medium Natashia Mack
Pieces from your life right now because again, I feel like one of the themes here is that we're trying to, like, fix it. We're trying to figure it out. We're trying all these different things.
00:21:54 Medium Natashia Mack
But it's just not it.
00:21:56 Medium Natashia Mack
You're not. You're not getting the results you want. You're not getting the answers you want because you're not doing.
00:22:05 Medium Natashia Mack
The things that your soul is calling you to do, you're doing the things you think you should do or need to, or you're looking outside of yourself and what other people are doing. What's?
00:22:15 Medium Natashia Mack
Working for them.
00:22:17 Medium Natashia Mack
But connect to that.
00:22:19 Medium Natashia Mack
That voice within, OK, not like.
00:22:24 Medium Natashia Mack
You know, not the inner critic or the fear or the ego, but just your your soul's voice, OK?
00:22:34 Medium Natashia Mack
Before I wrap this up, I do want to add that I have just created.
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00:22:49 Medium Natashia Mack
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00:22:59 Medium Natashia Mack
You tune in to your intuition, receive your own inner guidance from your higher self, notice your intuition supporting you throughout your day-to-day right, you literally using your inner guidance to make decisions to whether you should go for it or not. Helping you navigate the inner voices.
00:23:20 Medium Natashia Mack
Because.
00:23:20
Yes.
00:23:22 Medium Natashia Mack
Let's be real here. That is a really hard thing to do as a human right to trust your own inner voice and to make decisions based off of your intuition versus logic and what's right, what's expected, all that jazz. So this bundle.
00:23:37 Medium Natashia Mack
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00:23:44 Medium Natashia Mack
And so the link is in the show notes. If that is something you feel called to do, there's so much magic there, and it's not just fluffy spirituality stuff. This is like real mind body spirit work.
00:24:02 Medium Natashia Mack
Stuff that is supportive stuff that is real stuff that is grounded and is going to help you in your real day-to-day.
00:24:09 Medium Natashia Mack
Life and also support you on, you know, just experiencing a more connected, more intuitive life. So that's there for you. I love you guys. Thank you so much for listening. Let me know if these messages helped you.
The Hot Mess Medium Show Ep. 15 - Growing Up Sensitive: Navigating Loss, Common Misconceptions & Psychic Gifts with Ginny Ellsworth
Hey guys! Welcome back for another episode of the Hot Mess Medium Podcast with a special guest, my new Medium Friend, Ginny!
Ginny is a Medium, Hypnotherapist, Coach & published Author of an Amazon Bestseller “Making Spirit-led Decisions”.
In this episode, we have a conversation about:
Growing up in a Conservative Christian household as a highly sensitive child, having experiences with her Granny in Spirit
Opening up to her Mediumship abilities after the passing of her mother
My experience with Spirit coming through at the Movie Theatre's
Some of the struggles and misconceptions Mediums can face
Mind-reading: we need consent otherwise we are minding our business
Ginny's experiences with psychometry, remote-viewing & finding a lost wallet with her psychic abilities
Pro-tip for finding a lost object with your intuition
An intuitive message for someone who needs to hear it
Connect with Ginny:
Mediumship & NeuroManifestation:
Instagram: @ginny.ellsworth
Making Spirit-led Decisions book:
https://www.amazon.com/Making-Spirit-Led-Decisions-Confident-Relationship/dp/1734143665/
For upcoming events, private readings & more info on how you can have your questions answered in the podcast, go to: www.mediumnatashiamack.com
Follow me on Instagram: @mediumnatashiamack
Transcript
00:00:02 Medium Natashia Mack
Welcome back everyone, to the Hot mess medium.
00:00:06 Medium Natashia Mack
I am super excited because I have a special guest on with us today, Miss Jenny.
00:00:13 Medium Natashia Mack
No.
00:00:13 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh, my God, Jenny. My goodness. Butchered it already.
00:00:17
Jenny.
00:00:18 Ginny
You know what, Natasha?
00:00:19
I.
00:00:20 Ginny
I'm in the South and in his South.
00:00:22 Ginny
Is all pronounced the same.
00:00:24 Ginny
Everybody says Jenny. Yeah.
00:00:25 Medium Natashia Mack
Really.
00:00:28 Medium Natashia Mack
Yep. Yeah, I had a moment where I was like, I bet you she gets that literally all the time. Yeah.
00:00:30 Ginny
Gotta talk it.
00:00:35 Ginny
All the time.
00:00:36 Medium Natashia Mack
People, people have no idea how to you put an eye in Natasha and no one had any idea what to do with it.
00:00:42 Ginny
And so like, wait.
00:00:43 Ginny
I you know, I think people don't even see the eye 'cause your brain just reads the word.
00:00:51 Medium Natashia Mack
It's so true, so true.
00:00:53 Medium Natashia Mack
You wouldn't believe even like government documents will sometimes miss the I in my name.
00:00:59 Ginny
Oh.
00:01:00 Medium Natashia Mack
Not even kidding.
00:01:02 Ginny
Yeah, I I believe.
00:01:03 Ginny
So my legal name is Virginia.
00:01:07 Ginny
And Jenny Jenny is short for Virginia.
00:01:10 Ginny
So I.
00:01:11 Ginny
You you would be surprised.
00:01:14 Ginny
So in the US, Virginia is a state, right?
00:01:19 Ginny
Go through elementary school, learning the States and writing them, and you wouldn't believe how many people cannot spell Virginia.
00:01:27 Medium Natashia Mack
Actually.
00:01:29 Medium Natashia Mack
Wow, I I would not.
00:01:31 Medium Natashia Mack
I would not have thought that.
00:01:33 Ginny
Is wild.
00:01:34 Ginny
I mean, I'm not gonna lie.
00:01:36 Ginny
I I never go by Virginia unless it's like something formal like or at the doctor's office or something.
00:01:44 Ginny
When I write it, I'm spelling it in my head too.
00:01:49 Medium Natashia Mack
I love that.
00:01:50 Medium Natashia Mack
I love that so much.
00:01:50 Ginny
He's long name, yeah.
00:01:52 Medium Natashia Mack
I know well, Jenny. I would love if you could introduce yourself.
00:01:59 Ginny
Yeah.
00:02:00 Ginny
Right before we hit record, we were talking about this and how introducing yourself is fun, but also the hardest part.
00:02:09 Ginny
Where do I start?
00:02:11 Ginny
So I'm actually fairly new.
00:02:15 Ginny
To.
00:02:16 Ginny
Doing medium shed professionally, but I've been a hypnotherapist and a coach for the last four years.
00:02:26 Ginny
And did not expect mediumship to come into my sphere of things that I'm known for publicly.
00:02:36 Ginny
Or that ioffer as a service.
00:02:40 Ginny
So it it's been a wild ride and a fun ride to get to this point.
00:02:48 Medium Natashia Mack
And I can't wait to hear about that.
00:02:51 Medium Natashia Mack
I cannot wait to get into that. I love.
00:02:54 Medium Natashia Mack
Call it the origin story of the medium.
00:02:56 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm not hearing how that all kind of took place.
00:03:00 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, actually, why don't you get into that now?
00:03:02 Medium Natashia Mack
Would love to know.
00:03:03 Ginny
Yeah.
00:03:04 Ginny
So I I'm sure you get this question a lot and also the first question I always get is did you have this ability as a child or how long have you had this ability?
00:03:19 Ginny
And I did have this ability as a child, but I grew up in a super conservative Christian household where.
00:03:28 Ginny
You know, it just got shut down.
00:03:31 Ginny
I was told that it was my imagination.
00:03:35 Ginny
That I have vivid memories of my great grandmother being in my bedroom at night and just chatting with her in spirit.
00:03:44 Ginny
Passed before I was born.
00:03:47 Ginny
But I remember her being in my bedroom, and I remember my dad coming in to check on me.
00:03:53 Ginny
Happened more than once and saying like so I was like, you know, 5 or 6.
00:03:58 Ginny
Who are you talking to?
00:04:01 Ginny
And I remember saying, I'm talking to Granny. She's. And I was told.
00:04:07 Ginny
Of course, it was all well-intentioned.
00:04:10 Ginny
You can't talk to Granny. She's with Jesus.
00:04:15 Ginny
But I knew I could talk to Jesus so Jesus and I played this little game of telephone where I would say, hey, Jesus, can you tell Granny she's sitting right there?
00:04:15
Wow.
00:04:22
Thank you.
00:04:27 Ginny
You know, whatever. Whatever I wanted to say to her. So kids are super intuitive and super creative.
00:04:34 Ginny
And.
00:04:36 Ginny
I.
00:04:38 Ginny
Don't want to knock the way I was raised at all because there are elements of that that are serving me super well, especially when it comes to boundaries and being able to.
00:04:52 Ginny
Turn turn the spirit sensitivity on and off.
00:04:58 Ginny
Yeah.
00:04:59 Ginny
That's super important because we're here to have a human experience also.
00:05:04 Ginny
So I had this ability as a child. Shut it down and my mom passed.
00:05:05 Ginny
Pass this.
00:05:12 Ginny
Be 11 years ago this summer.
00:05:14 Ginny
And she was very spiritual.
00:05:19 Ginny
And the granddaughter of a Southern Baptist minister.
00:05:24 Ginny
And yes, you so his wife was the one who would come to me in my bedroom as a child.
00:05:33 Ginny
Granny was the wife of a Southern Baptist minister.
00:05:38 Ginny
And so my mom was his granddaughter. She was super spiritual.
00:05:43 Ginny
She went to great Extremes after she passed to get my attention from the spirit world.
00:05:51 Ginny
I have felt her touch me.
00:05:53 Ginny
I've been hit in the face with smells that remind me of her.
00:05:59 Ginny
And it took me a while to.
00:06:02 Ginny
Really, be open to that.
00:06:05 Ginny
So that was a process. And also there's been a whole process of going from.
00:06:12 Ginny
This is crazy.
00:06:13 Ginny
Don't tell anyone to. Oh, yeah, I hear dead people. It's OK.
00:06:22 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh wow, I love that.
00:06:23 Ginny
It's been a whole decade long journey.
00:06:26 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, it sounds like it.
00:06:28 Medium Natashia Mack
So.
00:06:29 Medium Natashia Mack
So you're a hypnotherapist and a coach.
00:06:33 Medium Natashia Mack
And then all of a sudden, mediumship chimes in and silver.
00:06:37 Ginny
Yeah, I'm needing.
00:06:39 Ginny
So let's go. Let's rewind back.
00:06:43 Ginny
To 2020.
00:06:46 Ginny
OK, I it was actually the end of 2019.
00:06:50 Ginny
I was a writer in the corporate world and I have several books on Amazon.
00:06:57 Medium Natashia Mack
What the heck?
00:06:59 Ginny
One of them, one of them was an Amazon.
00:07:02 Ginny
Best seller.
00:07:03 Ginny
It's called 19 spirit led decisions.
00:07:06 Ginny
And it's about using your intuition in a relationship. If you're in that situation, that should I say, or should I go? It's about how to take the information you have and use your intuition to get your answer.
00:07:22 Ginny
So that's up on Amazon.
00:07:22 Medium Natashia Mack
Amazing.
00:07:24 Ginny
I had this.
00:07:25 Ginny
Kind of going in the back.
00:07:27 Ginny
Ground and it I had been through a grief recovery method.
00:07:35 Ginny
Certification which I was exposed to when my mom passed and the summer that my mom passed. We can come back to this, but the summer my mom passed, I was also going through a terrible divorce.
00:07:47 Ginny
And so there was a lot of change and a lot of grief happening at that time. And I knew that.
00:07:54 Ginny
I wasn't necessarily gonna do anything professionally with that certification, but as I was going through part of the process is creating this timeline of losses, which sounds depressing, but really.
00:08:10 Ginny
It's acknowledging grief that comes up along the way.
00:08:15 Ginny
And I was simultaneously taking some side gigs, ghost writing for people and found that I was really coaching them.
00:08:24 Ginny
Through telling their story.
00:08:27 Ginny
And but I need to look into coaching and using my intuition was a big part of my writing process.
00:08:35 Ginny
So I found an intuitive coaching certification which was not at all what I.
00:08:41 Ginny
It was really about coaching people to connect with their intuition and not about like coaching clients intuitively because I was.
00:08:53 Ginny
Gonna coach storytelling. And it's funny how.
00:08:56 Ginny
The sphere world uses these ideas as ways to crack the door open.
00:09:02 Ginny
And once you get that door open, it might be something totally different than what you expected.
00:09:09 Ginny
So I'm going down this rabbit hole of intuition and coaching and recognizing my story and being able to use my story.
00:09:20 Ginny
As a way to relate to other people, well, this all got me.
00:09:26 Ginny
Interested in, like, what's happening in the brain when all of this is going on?
00:09:32 Ginny
Ultimately led me to hypnotherapy.
00:09:36 Ginny
I was not planning on, you know, getting trained as a hypnotherapist or doing that as a profession, but I absolutely fell in love with it and started watching people.
00:09:48 Ginny
The type of hypnotherapy I'm trained in is called rapid transformational therapy and it's like.
00:09:54 Medium Natashia Mack
I've heard of that.
00:09:55 Ginny
Yes, it's amazing.
00:09:58 Ginny
Cognitive behavioral therapy but in hypnosis.
00:10:01 Ginny
So all of the things that come up when you're in talk therapy.
00:10:08 Ginny
When you're in hypnosis, you have access to subconscious.
00:10:12 Ginny
So rather than session after session of uncovering these things, your subconscious is just like here it is.
00:10:19
Here's.
00:10:20 Ginny
The thing.
00:10:20 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh wow.
00:10:20 Ginny
Here's the root cause of the problem, and you're able.
00:10:23 Ginny
To rewire it in your brain in one session.
00:10:27 Ginny
There are some things that take more than one session, but most often it's one session.
00:10:33 Ginny
So all of this is going on and I'm watching things start to shift and this becomes a part time business while I'm in the coaching or while I'm in the corporate world still writing.
00:10:45 Ginny
And meanwhile, I'm still so this this all was spirit led.
00:10:51 Ginny
Mom had a big hand in it.
00:10:54 Ginny
And my grandmother passed two weeks after my mom did her. Her mother? Yeah, so.
00:11:02 Ginny
So I would my mom would connect with me most often, and it was usually out of the blue.
00:11:08 Ginny
I didn't have a whole lot of control over it because I didn't know how, and my grandmother. And then when my grandfather passed right before he passed, I asked him.
00:11:20 Ginny
I've confessed.
00:11:22 Ginny
I was like, hey, I connect like I mom and grandmama come and visit me.
00:11:30 Ginny
And it was an amazing conversation, not the response I expected to get from him. But I asked him. That was like, what do I have to lose?
00:11:40 Ginny
About to transition and I asked him if he would come visit me.
00:11:46 Ginny
When he passed and he got this big smile on his face and said, I believe I will so and I did. I heard from him and still do all the time. A lot of times when I'm giving readings, he'll sit in a chair. That.
00:11:52
Oh.
00:12:01 Ginny
That was in his house across from me.
00:12:05 Ginny
And so I had my people, my people, that I was connected to, who were coming to me and giving me messages.
00:12:13 Ginny
Well, I was putting on my makeup one day like, you know, in the mirror, getting mouth open, getting mascara on.
00:12:22 Ginny
And I heard a voice.
00:12:24 Ginny
And it wasn't one that I recognized.
00:12:28 Ginny
And I just kind of, you know, brushed it off like I don't know who this is.
00:12:32 Ginny
Gonna continue on with my day.
00:12:34 Ginny
Big deal.
00:12:35 Ginny
And I heard it again and he threw in a.
00:12:40 Ginny
Inside joke that only me and his son would know, which immediately told me who this was and he wanted me to give the message to his wife.
00:12:55 Ginny
And I said I can't do that.
00:12:57 Ginny
I they're gonna think I'm.
00:12:59 Ginny
Nobody knows that I'm connecting with my people and.
00:13:05 Ginny
And the spirit realm in general. Like I, I'm not gonna out myself to deliver your message.
00:13:13 Ginny
And I was mindlessly scrolling, standing in line at the grocery store later that day and saw that it was his birthday.
00:13:22 Ginny
And I still did not have the guts to deliver the message to his wife, and I lived with so much regret for about a year.
00:13:34 Ginny
That.
00:13:35 Ginny
I decided I've got to find a mentor.
00:13:38 Ginny
And once I found a mentor.
00:13:41 Ginny
Things just exploded and I was on the fast track and.
00:13:48 Ginny
A year?
00:13:49 Ginny
Making that decision that I have to find a mentor.
00:13:53 Ginny
One year later.
00:13:56 Ginny
God was like, by the way, you're gonna be doing this for other people. Like just shoved me off the Cliff, booted me out the door.
00:14:06 Ginny
To fly on your way down and it's it's been amazing because.
00:14:12 Ginny
It's not.
00:14:13 Ginny
It's not anything that we do what we do and you and I did this right before we hit record.
00:14:19 Ginny
Just get clear and make sure that we are clear.
00:14:23 Ginny
We are out of the way and we are in Clear Channel for spirit.
00:14:27 Medium Natashia Mack
Absolutely.
00:14:28 Ginny
That was a.
00:14:29 Ginny
Sorry that I hope that story made sense.
00:14:33 Ginny
I feel like I was a little all over the place.
00:14:36 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh, it absolutely made.
00:14:37 Medium Natashia Mack
I love listening to your really great storyteller and.
00:14:42 Medium Natashia Mack
I love.
00:14:44 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, I just love all the.
00:14:47 Medium Natashia Mack
The synchronicities and the connections and also sharing about how like you had that experience and.
00:14:58 Medium Natashia Mack
And then vulnerably sharing, you know about the the guilt that you and regret that you had after that.
00:15:06 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm currently dealing with that right now.
00:15:09 Ginny
Yeah.
00:15:10 Medium Natashia Mack
So.
00:15:12 Medium Natashia Mack
On Sunday.
00:15:15 Medium Natashia Mack
Like me and my friend and my daughter and her friend went out for her birthday.
00:15:21 Medium Natashia Mack
And usually my boundaries are super great, like when I'm out living my life and people are out living their life. I'm not getting bombarded with spirit, right?
00:15:33 Ginny
Frank.
00:15:33 Medium Natashia Mack
Like, that's the importance of having boundaries with this type of work.
00:15:39 Medium Natashia Mack
And but this time was different. So I was in the theatre and it was so weird because we like pre bought our tickets.
00:15:49
Mm.
00:15:50 Medium Natashia Mack
And.
00:15:52 Medium Natashia Mack
We see this woman and her two kids going in the same spot and like the there was a snowstorm outside.
00:16:00 Medium Natashia Mack
It was like barely anyone else in the theater.
00:16:02 Medium Natashia Mack
Are the odds we both purchased seat 12?
00:16:05 Medium Natashia Mack
I was like that's super.
00:16:08 Medium Natashia Mack
Strange, but like we all just decided to sit beside each other because you know.
00:16:12 Ginny
Yeah, why not.
00:16:14 Medium Natashia Mack
Why not? Whatever.
00:16:15 Medium Natashia Mack
And anyways, towards the end of the.
00:16:20 Medium Natashia Mack
We.
00:16:20 Medium Natashia Mack
We were watching Mufasa, by the way, towards the end of the movie I I start getting that feeling.
00:16:25 Medium Natashia Mack
You know that feeling when spirit starts to come in, your vibration raises and you could just feel.
00:16:26 Ginny
Yeah.
00:16:33 Medium Natashia Mack
Something else in your energy field, and so I was like, this is so weird and I could feel it in my stomach.
00:16:38 Medium Natashia Mack
Felt sick to my stomach and I could see images in my head.
00:16:42 Medium Natashia Mack
First of all, I was like, OK.
00:16:44 Medium Natashia Mack
This mine or someone else?
00:16:45 Medium Natashia Mack
It's like, what if the?
00:16:45 Ginny
Yes.
00:16:48 Medium Natashia Mack
Right, so I took a moment.
00:16:49 Medium Natashia Mack
Was like.
00:16:50 Medium Natashia Mack
No, there's definitely someone here trying to come in and.
00:16:55 Medium Natashia Mack
So I'm just.
00:16:59 Medium Natashia Mack
So my mind is going like Oh yeah, so then I start seeing images in my mind of this older gentleman and he feels like a father figure right away.
00:17:07 Medium Natashia Mack
And he's showing me how sick he was before he passed and I was getting a lot of other information too.
00:17:13 Medium Natashia Mack
I was like, hey, well, like, who is this even for?
00:17:16 Medium Natashia Mack
What is going on here?
00:17:18 Medium Natashia Mack
You know, for this to come through so strong, like it's gotta mean something. And then after the movie, I could still feel him around. And I'm talking to my friend who's not a medium, by the way, and she's like.
00:17:21 Ginny
Ah.
00:17:32 Medium Natashia Mack
Did you smell the vomit?
00:17:36 Medium Natashia Mack
And I was like a lot of chills.
00:17:37 Ginny
Go away.
00:17:39 Medium Natashia Mack
She's like, I literally took my flashlight out because I could not stop smelling vomit. And she's, like, looking around for it, thinking like, well, maybe.
00:17:50 Medium Natashia Mack
It's like rock or.
00:17:51 Ginny
Yeah.
00:17:53 Medium Natashia Mack
And I was like, no, I did not smell that at all.
00:17:56 Medium Natashia Mack
And then I told her what I was.
00:17:58 Medium Natashia Mack
And she got chills everywhere. And she's just like, what the?
00:18:02 Medium Natashia Mack
And she's like, it has to be for the woman who's sitting next to me like that.
00:18:05 Ginny
Yeah, yeah.
00:18:07 Medium Natashia Mack
Was the one sitting next to her.
00:18:10 Medium Natashia Mack
So.
00:18:10 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm so cold right now.
00:18:12 Medium Natashia Mack
You know, what do you think?
00:18:14 Medium Natashia Mack
On top of goosebumps. So anyway.
00:18:17 Medium Natashia Mack
I was like that is.
00:18:18 Medium Natashia Mack
And then the woman ended up like sticking around 'cause. I wanted my. I wanted the kids to, like, play at the arcade area of the theater.
00:18:26 Medium Natashia Mack
And so did the woman and her two kids.
00:18:30 Medium Natashia Mack
And everything in my body was like, go and tell her this is for her. But the human in me really got in the way.
00:18:38 Medium Natashia Mack
Also, the mentor and me got in the way.
00:18:41 Ginny
Yeah.
00:18:43 Medium Natashia Mack
Because I was like Kay. There's a snowstorm outside.
00:18:46 Medium Natashia Mack
She's got two kids.
00:18:47 Medium Natashia Mack
I just would hate to put her in this, like, emotional, vulnerable position right out in public with her kids.
00:18:51 Ginny
Yeah.
00:18:57 Medium Natashia Mack
And like I'm I'm imagining, I'm an over thinker.
00:18:59 Medium Natashia Mack
Obviously I'm imagining the.
00:19:00 Ginny
Yeah.
00:19:01 Medium Natashia Mack
Like she's driving and like snowstorm. And like I was like, no, I can't.
00:19:05 Medium Natashia Mack
Can't be responsible for anything bad happening because it felt.
00:19:10 Medium Natashia Mack
Deep and it felt it wasn't like a light hearted thing.
00:19:14 Ginny
Yeah.
00:19:14 Medium Natashia Mack
It felt heavy and so in that moment I had to make a decision as much as I really wanted to pull a Teresa Caputo, whatever.
00:19:16 Ginny
Yeah.
00:19:23 Ginny
Yeah.
00:19:24 Medium Natashia Mack
I didn't.
00:19:25 Medium Natashia Mack
And so I actually just put a post out there because I couldn't let it go.
00:19:29 Medium Natashia Mack
Could not let it go.
00:19:31 Medium Natashia Mack
I put a post out there, kind of describing the situation. Like if this is you, you know like reach out to me.
00:19:38 Medium Natashia Mack
I can.
00:19:39 Medium Natashia Mack
And connect and. That way, if she sees it and is not interested, she doesn't have to.
00:19:40 Ginny
Yeah.
00:19:45 Medium Natashia Mack
So anyways, just thought I would share, but it was crazy how as soon as she left the like left.
00:19:46 Ginny
Yeah.
00:19:53 Medium Natashia Mack
I could.
00:19:54 Medium Natashia Mack
I felt so much relief, like so. That was my confirmation that, OK, it was for her.
00:19:55 Ginny
Yeah.
00:19:59 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, it's been really bothering me.
00:20:01 Ginny
Yeah.
00:20:03 Medium Natashia Mack
But at the same time, I had to like, trust my gut.
00:20:07 Medium Natashia Mack
Sort of, you know.
00:20:08 Ginny
Yeah. Yeah. And it it's really we get put in these sticky situations because it's a question of ethics.
00:20:18 Ginny
Yes, you were going through your mind of all these possible outcomes.
00:20:25 Ginny
And there's gotta be a middle ground, you know.
00:20:28 Medium Natashia Mack
I.
00:20:32 Ginny
I I also have a friend who we walk a lot and she will physically.
00:20:41 Ginny
She's she's a medium, but hasn't pursued development. And I I don't know that she will, but she's super spiritually connected and will occasionally get messages for people and she will feel physically I'll if she doesn't deliver the message.
00:20:59
Over.
00:20:59 Ginny
And yeah, and so it's kind of this.
00:21:03 Ginny
I mean it, is it really ethical to approach a stranger and you don't know what their beliefs are or what their situation is?
00:21:12 Ginny
Maybe she didn't want to hear from her dad.
00:21:14 Ginny
Maybe she wasn't ready for that.
00:21:17
Yes.
00:21:18 Ginny
So I think it's good like as a medium and I'm talking to myself here.
00:21:23 Ginny
It's good to have like.
00:21:27 Ginny
Kind of a personal policy of like if this happens, this is what I'm gonna do, especially with a stranger I don't know about you, but for me, it's easier for me to approach a stranger and say something like hey.
00:21:43 Ginny
I'm a medium and I'm sensing a father figure around you.
00:21:48 Ginny
If here's my card, if you would like to connect over that, I'd be happy to chat and then the ball is in their court.
00:21:57 Ginny
Art.
00:21:58 Ginny
It's, you know.
00:21:58
Oh.
00:22:01 Medium Natashia Mack
I like that.
00:22:03 Ginny
With people I know.
00:22:06 Ginny
Though it's harder.
00:22:07 Ginny
I mean, now I'm like, out in the world as a medium, but especially people from my past, from that conservative Christian community.
00:22:21 Ginny
It's hard for me to say, hey, I'm getting a message for you.
00:22:25 Ginny
Because I'm projecting what they're gonna think about me.
00:22:30 Medium Natashia Mack
Right. That makes sense.
00:22:32 Medium Natashia Mack
Makes total sense.
00:22:34 Medium Natashia Mack
And you actually just reminded.
00:22:36 Medium Natashia Mack
I literally just put some like business cards in my purse, so I should start, you know, like, I mean, I'm not seeing what's going to happen, but if it were.
00:22:42 Ginny
Yeah, yeah.
00:22:47 Medium Natashia Mack
Because I would definitely never be like, Oh my God, this is what's coming through. And just, like, bombard something with someone. But I love the idea of green like, hey, like, you know, here's a car and falls in your court type of thing.
00:22:53 Ginny
Yeah.
00:22:59 Medium Natashia Mack
Know that's probably how it could have handled that situation.
00:23:00 Ginny
Yeah.
00:23:02 Medium Natashia Mack
But.
00:23:04 Medium Natashia Mack
Because there was one time and I've shared this story before, so I.
00:23:08 Medium Natashia Mack
I won't like get into it, but there was a time like in a restaurant. I literally bargained with spirit because I didn't want to do it.
00:23:17 Medium Natashia Mack
But it all it was like.
00:23:18 Ginny
Yeah.
00:23:20 Medium Natashia Mack
It ended up working out wonderful and the woman who ended up, you know, like.
00:23:27 Medium Natashia Mack
Obviously asked her permission and all this stuff.
00:23:29 Ginny
Yeah.
00:23:31 Medium Natashia Mack
And you know, we're still like, we're still connected.
00:23:34 Medium Natashia Mack
Love her so much, but that was like one of those things where it it worked out great.
00:23:40 Medium Natashia Mack
Would hate for it to.
00:23:41 Ginny
Yeah.
00:23:42 Medium Natashia Mack
Not work out and to just you know, I don't know.
00:23:46 Medium Natashia Mack
Felt like I got really lucky that time, but.
00:23:48 Ginny
Yeah.
00:23:49 Medium Natashia Mack
I also wonder if, like.
00:23:52 Medium Natashia Mack
If Spirit's going to go out of their way to make that happen, when you do have those solid boundaries, it makes me wonder if that right there is a sign that the person would be open, you know, like.
00:23:52
It's.
00:24:04 Ginny
Yeah, they're ready.
00:24:05 Ginny
Well, I was gonna ask, have you ever had a time that it hasn't worked out?
00:24:12 Medium Natashia Mack
No, actually.
00:24:13 Ginny
Yeah, I was thinking about that too.
00:24:17 Ginny
It's it's always works out and what I found if I which by the way this does not make it any easier to do.
00:24:25 Ginny
Do, but looking back at all these circumstances, when I have the hesitation, like I don't want to do this, it's always about me.
00:24:38
Yes.
00:24:39 Ginny
Because you have no idea how they're actually going to respond.
00:24:45 Ginny
And I'm guilty of still doing this, even with my family. Who knows that I'm a medium. They know that I'm.
00:24:55 Ginny
Offering mediumship readings as a service.
00:24:59 Ginny
But we'll be sitting around the table together and I'll hear my mom say something and I frame it up as like, oh, if Mom were here, she would stay.
00:25:09 Ginny
Say instead of just saying, oh Mom says blah blah blah, I feel like, you know, I have to package it in a way that's more acceptable.
00:25:20 Ginny
Then they would just accept it anyway, you know.
00:25:25 Medium Natashia Mack
That's so yeah, exactly.
00:25:27 Medium Natashia Mack
I love that we're having this conversation 'cause, you know, it's making me think about how I still.
00:25:36 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm so afraid of how people are going to, like, receive me that.
00:25:43 Medium Natashia Mack
When, OK, like a few months ago.
00:25:47 Medium Natashia Mack
Me and my husband went out for lunch and we saw a friend of mine and her husband and she invited us to go and sit with them. And we're like, oh, yeah, sure.
00:25:58 Medium Natashia Mack
And then so she my friend, introduces her husband to to me like. And she's like, this is my psychic friend.
00:26:07 Medium Natashia Mack
Immediately was like I was like, don't worry, I won't read you like I'm not.
00:26:12 Medium Natashia Mack
I don't do that like, I'm not just gonna, like, read you just so immediately.
00:26:13 Ginny
Yeah, yeah.
00:26:17 Medium Natashia Mack
He can like feel.
00:26:19 Medium Natashia Mack
It's like, yeah, like I'm so.
00:26:19 Ginny
Relax.
00:26:21 Ginny
Yeah.
00:26:22 Medium Natashia Mack
I've heard it so much that there's people who are.
00:26:28 Medium Natashia Mack
Afraid that I'm going around reading them, reading their minds, knowing their secrets, or that I have this like posse of loved ones hanging around me.
00:26:34 Ginny
Yeah.
00:26:40 Medium Natashia Mack
The time, like people think that.
00:26:41 Ginny
Yeah.
00:26:44 Medium Natashia Mack
And so that's why it's important to have conversations like this 'cause. That's not how it works.
00:26:48 Ginny
Yeah.
00:26:49 Medium Natashia Mack
So I immediately like if I'm in a room of people who are non mediums, who don't understand, I'll just like.
00:26:57 Medium Natashia Mack
Like Full disclosure.
00:26:58 Ginny
I can't read your mind.
00:27:00 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, I'm not like I'm a normal person.
00:27:02 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm a normal human.
00:27:05 Medium Natashia Mack
And I'm not reading anyone like I'm just.
00:27:08 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm just here existing. OK, so like I.
00:27:10 Ginny
Yeah, I'm into the node.
00:27:10 Medium Natashia Mack
Want I?
00:27:11 Medium Natashia Mack
I don't want anyone to be afraid of me.
00:27:16 Medium Natashia Mack
Anyways.
00:27:16 Ginny
I was at so this was before I had, I think.
00:27:24 Ginny
But I was just about to start the mentorship program, so I had access to the videos. I'd already started the videos.
00:27:35 Ginny
And our mutual mentor Lindsay in one of her videos taught which this was a huge step for me, talks about letting things come through and not questioning them.
00:27:46 Ginny
And I was really taking that to heart and a couple of months later, I was at a Silva.
00:27:54 Ginny
Intuition seminar.
00:27:58 Ginny
And one of the exercises Silva's seminars are amazing.
00:28:03 Ginny
Because they they give you exercises you do.
00:28:07 Ginny
It's not about becoming a psychic or becoming a medium. It's about the power of your mind and you hear the history of all of.
00:28:17 Ginny
Beds and and you know Jose Silva was a radio technician like he was not and he was like doing mind experiments with his kids.
00:28:29 Ginny
It comes with some great stories, but the first day, so I had been it's divided.
00:28:36 Ginny
Into two sections and I had taken the first two days at a previous date.
00:28:43 Ginny
So everybody had been together for two days in this group and I came in on the second two days and the first exercise we did was we partnered up and my group was the odd group of three.
00:28:57 Ginny
And you set the intention to tune into your partner and get as much information as you can.
00:29:04 Ginny
You just write down everything that comes.
00:29:06 Ginny
So in my circle of three, I'm looking at somebody. She's looking at the next.
00:29:14 Ginny
And then that person is looking at me.
00:29:18 Ginny
So I'm writing down everything that comes through and then you take turns saying what you picked up and what. So this is the first exercise on the first day.
00:29:32 Ginny
And I had been watching these videos so I decided I'm not gonna filter.
00:29:38 Ginny
I'm just gonna say every single thing that I got, and as I was describing everything that I saw this woman who is still a friend to this day, we were perfect strangers at the time. But now we're friends.
00:29:53 Ginny
Her.
00:29:53 Ginny
Health her jaw was getting closer and closer to the floor and I got done talking and she was like, Oh my God, you just remote viewed my life and everything from like three boys who like to wear.
00:30:10 Ginny
Sports jerseys to her morning routine of sitting in a room with lots of windows with her cup of coffee and doing yoga in the morning like everything.
00:30:21 Ginny
Natasha, for the rest of the week.
00:30:24 Ginny
And nobody would be my partner because they all thought that I could read their minds.
00:30:31 Medium Natashia Mack
'Cause you just read her to.
00:30:33 Medium Natashia Mack
You just knew, like every aspect of her life, love, that.
00:30:35 Ginny
Yeah, I knew every her two best friends that were like it all just came through because I set the intention to not filter anything.
00:30:47 Ginny
But to the average person it.
00:30:49 Ginny
It's like, oh, I don't know how that works.
00:30:52 Ginny
So this is scary.
00:30:53 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah.
00:30:56 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, absolutely.
00:30:57 Medium Natashia Mack
I love that you shared that and I think.
00:31:00 Medium Natashia Mack
I think there's like so much I wanna say about all of this, but like the.
00:31:08 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh ****. Where did it go?
00:31:11 Medium Natashia Mack
Where did it go?
00:31:12 Ginny
It'll come back.
00:31:13 Medium Natashia Mack
It'll come back OK? Yeah.
00:31:16 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh, but then now what am I gonna say? If that left my brain?
00:31:21 Ginny
We're talking about reading people's mind or not reading people's minds.
00:31:26 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, it's like I could, but I prefer when someone consents to me reading their, you know what I mean.
00:31:32 Ginny
Yeah, yeah.
00:31:35 Medium Natashia Mack
Like I'm I'm do you find you're extremely telepathic?
00:31:39 Ginny
I am and.
00:31:42 Ginny
But I have to set an intention, right.
00:31:46
Sure.
00:31:48 Ginny
I'll get telepathic messages, but that, and I think this is a common misconception too.
00:31:55 Ginny
The psychic reading is different than the mediumship reading energy.
00:32:01 Medium Natashia Mack
Yes, absolutely.
00:32:03
And.
00:32:05 Ginny
I have more.
00:32:08 Ginny
Intentions more often to connect with spirit versus and that's what I do in my readings too.
00:32:12
Mm.
00:32:17 Ginny
I don't do psychic.
00:32:19 Ginny
I have read on my website I don't do quote UN quote future work.
00:32:24 Ginny
That's all we should.
00:32:25 Ginny
Back to that about why that is iffy.
00:32:30 Ginny
But also.
00:32:33 Ginny
It's it's a different type of connection 'cause you're reading the energy off the person. And let's be real, there are a lot of people. I don't want to read their energy.
00:32:48 Ginny
I don't want to get it.
00:32:50 Medium Natashia Mack
It's so.
00:32:50 Medium Natashia Mack
Though and like, you know when we're going about our day living our lives like we're minding our own business, we have enough stuff going on in our brains like I don't need to be.
00:33:01 Ginny
Yeah.
00:33:02 Medium Natashia Mack
Doing that.
00:33:03 Ginny
I've got, you know, the hot mess medium I can relate. Like I've got enough mess going on in my own brain, absolutely.
00:33:12
I don't need to get.
00:33:13 Ginny
In your brain to you.
00:33:14 Medium Natashia Mack
And also like what's what use? Is that to me?
00:33:18 Medium Natashia Mack
Like what am I gonna do with that, right?
00:33:19 Ginny
Exactly.
00:33:21 Ginny
Exactly.
00:33:21 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm literally just.
00:33:23 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm an ADHD.
00:33:24 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm like living my.
00:33:26 Medium Natashia Mack
I've got 4 kids like I don't have time for that.
00:33:29 Medium Natashia Mack
So yeah, unless and the other thing is, it's like.
00:33:34 Medium Natashia Mack
When we're about to do a session with someone again, their their consenting their open, there's like this this connection taking place and it's supportive and whatever it's not like.
00:33:48 Medium Natashia Mack
I don't know.
00:33:49 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
00:33:51 Ginny
Thank you.
00:33:52 Ginny
I had.
00:33:55 Ginny
A funny thing happened in the psychic realm last week.
00:34:00 Ginny
Object finding so that that is the one time that I will.
00:34:07 Ginny
Set the intention to.
00:34:10 Ginny
Help me or someone else find an object which is very hard to do by the way.
00:34:15 Ginny
Everyone listening, who is not a psychic or medium.
00:34:18 Medium Natashia Mack
I have a trick though, so we're gonna get. We're gonna go. That when you're done talking about this, yes.
00:34:21 Ginny
OK, let's come back to that trick.
00:34:25 Ginny
So I my brother and his family.
00:34:28 Ginny
We're in town last week and stayed with me for a few days and my water filter on the refrigerator needs to be changed and I've got a filter on the tap, so I just use tap water.
00:34:41 Ginny
But my brother was like, oh, where are your extra filters?
00:34:44 Ginny
Change that for.
00:34:46 Ginny
They were not where I thought I put them.
00:34:49 Ginny
And I could not find these filters to save my life.
00:34:53 Ginny
So I just kind of gave up the next day, my sister-in-law loses her wallet.
00:34:59 Ginny
And I'm like, I didn't say anything, just internally. I was like, let me just tap into the wallet and see if I can figure out where it is.
00:35:09 Ginny
And they had been to the.
00:35:11 Ginny
I knew it wasn't at the store. I kept seeing it in a black bag.
00:35:15 Ginny
And so I said that to her.
00:35:17 Ginny
And she and her grandmother was a working medium in Brazil and like, put all of her grandkids or her kids through college.
00:35:29 Ginny
Doing mediumship full time so it's I can say that stuff to my sister-in-law and it's like normal.
00:35:36 Ginny
So I'm like, I keep seeing it in a black bag and she's like, I already looked in my black bag and a few minutes goes by and I'm like, I really think you should look in your black bag again.
00:35:47 Ginny
And so she pulls out her black bag.
00:35:50 Ginny
Is done in there.
00:35:51 Ginny
She goes upstairs to where they have all of their belongings.
00:35:56 Ginny
And she comes down a few minutes later, and she's like it was in Paul's black bag.
00:36:02 Ginny
So it was in my brother's black bag, so I can find my sister in law's wallet, but I cannot find my refrigerator filters to save my life.
00:36:14 Medium Natashia Mack
I love that so much.
00:36:16 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh my gosh, I.
00:36:19 Medium Natashia Mack
Yes. So that brings me to like this trick.
00:36:23 Ginny
Yeah. What's your trick?
00:36:23 Medium Natashia Mack
I've figured out.
00:36:24 Ginny
I need to know.
00:36:25 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah. So I want you to practice this and see what happens.
00:36:29 Medium Natashia Mack
So I started. Yeah. So having like being a neurodivergent adult. So you forget or you forget a lot, but also you misplace things a lot. And so something I started doing.
00:36:44 Medium Natashia Mack
That just came to me was like, OK, like for example, what is something that?
00:36:50 Medium Natashia Mack
I was looking for one time, OK.
00:36:52 Medium Natashia Mack
The remote is an easy one.
00:36:55 Medium Natashia Mack
If I were the remote, where would I be?
00:36:59 Ginny
Yeah.
00:37:00 Medium Natashia Mack
And I ask that I ask that in my mind, or even out loud, and I just take a moment to, like, connect.
00:37:06 Medium Natashia Mack
Like you were saying, connect to the energy of the object or whatever and like and.
00:37:12 Medium Natashia Mack
You're curious about it.
00:37:14 Medium Natashia Mack
You're wondering about it, and I'm doing this with my.
00:37:17 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm like opening it up because what happens when you're curious and wondering, right?
00:37:21 Medium Natashia Mack
With mediumship, when you're curious and wondering a question.
00:37:23
Yeah.
00:37:26 Medium Natashia Mack
To spirit, you're creating space for that information to just drop in.
00:37:30 Medium Natashia Mack
So anyways, I do that and then all of a sudden I let my body.
00:37:30 Ginny
And we.
00:37:37 Medium Natashia Mack
Just walk and guide me to where this is.
00:37:41
Oh, that's.
00:37:41 Medium Natashia Mack
It's.
00:37:42
Good.
00:37:42 Medium Natashia Mack
Intuitive, so I'm not using my head so.
00:37:46 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm literally just noticing where I where I'm leaning toward.
00:37:50 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm leaning in a certain direction, I'm.
00:37:51 Ginny
I think that has got to be the key, yeah.
00:37:54 Medium Natashia Mack
Like walking.
00:37:56 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, yeah, 'cause.
00:37:57 Medium Natashia Mack
If we're like in our heads about it, you know, you're like, blocking the flow of, you know, information.
00:38:00 Ginny
Yeah.
00:38:03 Medium Natashia Mack
But if you let your body guide you, you'll like, feel guided to go in a certain direction and to, like, look in a certain area.
00:38:11 Medium Natashia Mack
And it's worked. Every freaking time that I've done it, and I was like, OK.
00:38:15 Medium Natashia Mack
Finally figured it out.
00:38:18 Medium Natashia Mack
So show them that for whoever needs that.
00:38:18 Ginny
I'm gonna try.
00:38:21 Ginny
Yes, I'm gonna try that.
00:38:23 Ginny
I so I think that it's my theory, at least for myself, that that's why it's easier for me to help other people find things.
00:38:34 Ginny
Instead of my own things because I might get.
00:38:37 Ginny
But then my logical brain comes in and say that says Nope, that can't be right that like there's no way I put it there.
00:38:48 Ginny
There's no way the keys are in the refrigerator, you know doesn't make sense.
00:38:52 Ginny
They're in the refrigerator.
00:38:56 Medium Natashia Mack
You know, there's the time, though, when I tested it out. That's so funny.
00:38:58 Medium Natashia Mack
Tested it out with.
00:39:00 Medium Natashia Mack
I was looking for wrapping.
00:39:02 Medium Natashia Mack
That's what it was, and I and I could see the roles of wrapping paper near the fridge, and I was like, that doesn't make any sense.
00:39:10 Ginny
There's no way.
00:39:11 Medium Natashia Mack
Like, why would they be there?
00:39:13 Medium Natashia Mack
And so I go and look and I'm.
00:39:15 Medium Natashia Mack
Sea.
00:39:16 Medium Natashia Mack
They're not.
00:39:18 Medium Natashia Mack
And then I tell my husband, like, you know, that's what I was seeing haha.
00:39:22 Medium Natashia Mack
It's not. There he goes and looks. And sure enough, they were there.
00:39:25 Medium Natashia Mack
Were just like, talked more behind the fridge.
00:39:27 Medium Natashia Mack
Was like, what the heck?
00:39:29 Ginny
Who put the wrapping paper and?
00:39:33 Medium Natashia Mack
Why? That doesn't make any sense.
00:39:35 Ginny
That's hilarious.
00:39:36 Medium Natashia Mack
That's the I want to ask you.
00:39:40 Medium Natashia Mack
Totally random, but what is your like?
00:39:44 Medium Natashia Mack
Do you have a story like your craziest experience?
00:39:50 Medium Natashia Mack
With either spirit or with like an Angel, or I don't know. Have you ever had?
00:39:56 Medium Natashia Mack
An experience like that that really sticks out.
00:39:59 Ginny
Yeah, I don't know if I can pick a craziest, but.
00:40:04 Ginny
The story that started it started it all for me was.
00:40:12 Ginny
That summer that my mom died, I was going through a terrible divorce.
00:40:16 Ginny
I had moved out of the house into an apartment.
00:40:21 Ginny
And was having nightmares every night like I would wake up literally looking for a place to hide because my dreams would be so vivid and so real.
00:40:33 Ginny
In this one and once I was awake, I didn't want to close my eyes again because I didn't want to go back into that dream.
00:40:42 Ginny
And one night, you know this, the same thing happened.
00:40:46 Ginny
I remember the dream too.
00:40:49 Ginny
I he had was being sweet and he had coaxed me into a robo.
00:40:55 Ginny
Why a robo?
00:40:56 Ginny
I don't know, but it Cokes, me into a rowboat.
00:40:58 Ginny
And once we were out in the middle of the ocean, he was gonna kill me.
00:41:05 Ginny
And I had a choice to stay there and try to fight him, or to jump out of the boat and risk, like it's a risk either way.
00:41:14 Ginny
How am I gonna survive?
00:41:17 Ginny
So terrible, terrible nightmare. Woke up in a.
00:41:21 Ginny
And I am just laying there with my eyes wide open and I felt something move on the end of my bed and my dog at the time, who since crossed over.
00:41:33 Ginny
She usually slept on the into my bed, so I just thought she was like adjusting and I felt it again a couple seconds later and I was like, what is she doing?
00:41:44 Ginny
I set up to see what she was doing.
00:41:46 Ginny
The dog was not on the bed, she was on the floor.
00:41:50 Ginny
Totally passed.
00:41:51 Ginny
Ears flopped over sawing logs.
00:41:55 Ginny
So she's not moving a muscle.
00:42:00 Ginny
And I just thought that was weird. Like I really hadn't had any experiences since childhood.
00:42:07 Ginny
I was.
00:42:08 Ginny
I did not immediately connect the dots to spirit.
00:42:13 Ginny
I laid back down on my side and I felt the bed move right in that.
00:42:18 Ginny
You know the curve of your torso like someone was sitting on the bed next to me and it went down.
00:42:25 Ginny
It didn't just move, it went down.
00:42:29 Ginny
And then I literally felt a physical hand on my forehead.
00:42:34 Ginny
I knew by the feeling.
00:42:36 Ginny
I knew immediately it was my mom.
00:42:39 Ginny
My eyes closed. I fell back asleep and I never have had another nightmare since.
00:42:45 Ginny
So this was 10 years ago.
00:42:49 Ginny
And I woke.
00:42:50 Ginny
The next morning and my first thought was, Oh my God, don't tell anyone.
00:42:58 Ginny
Don't tell anyone. This is bananas.
00:43:03 Ginny
But I'm so thankful.
00:43:05 Ginny
All.
00:43:06 Ginny
For that experience, because.
00:43:10 Ginny
It was.
00:43:11 Ginny
It started opening the door.
00:43:15 Ginny
And my mom knew that if she just dropped little hints that I wouldn't pick them up, she had to do something extreme.
00:43:21
Write.
00:43:25 Ginny
And something that impacted me so greatly and obviously that's what a mother wants to do is take your child's nightmares away.
00:43:34 Ginny
But she had to, like I had to.
00:43:37 Ginny
Feel the physical touch.
00:43:42 Ginny
Note that it was her and to connect with her energy and know beyond a shadow of a doubt that it was her and and that I wasn't just imagining it.
00:43:53 Ginny
And and that blew open the door she started.
00:43:57 Ginny
She would do extreme things for a while until I said OK, I'm listening.
00:44:06 Medium Natashia Mack
That's incredible. You know, like spirit just working so hard to make.
00:44:07 Ginny
Yeah.
00:44:12 Medium Natashia Mack
We hear them and.
00:44:13
Uh.
00:44:13 Medium Natashia Mack
Sure, we know that they're there.
00:44:15 Medium Natashia Mack
I just love.
00:44:16 Medium Natashia Mack
Thank you for sharing that.
00:44:18
Yeah.
00:44:19 Medium Natashia Mack
I could literally talk to you for hours.
00:44:24 Medium Natashia Mack
I'll have to.
00:44:25 Medium Natashia Mack
You on for a Part 2 because.
00:44:26 Ginny
Our time has come by so fast, like.
00:44:29 Medium Natashia Mack
Literally so fast.
00:44:33 Medium Natashia Mack
But I wanted to ask you like is there?
00:44:38 Medium Natashia Mack
Is there like a message you feel called to share with our?
00:44:42 Medium Natashia Mack
And if this doesn't put any pressure on you but just, you know, sometimes like you could feel it on your heart or it's something that's been like popping up for you recently.
00:44:44
Yeah.
00:44:50 Medium Natashia Mack
Maybe a theme that you've noticed in your readings, I don't know.
00:44:52 Medium Natashia Mack
Like, what do you feel called to share?
00:44:55 Ginny
Yeah.
00:44:58 Ginny
Well, I'm gonna say I'm gonna share two things.
00:45:01 Ginny
Collective message that I feel coming through.
00:45:04 Ginny
Is don't wait for the extremes to happen. If something is on your heart and you're feeling pulled to something, whether it's mediumship or anything, spiritually or not.
00:45:20 Ginny
It is OK to explore.
00:45:23 Ginny
Don't let your own projections of what people will think stop you, and also don't feel like you have to put it out, whatever that it is. Don't feel like you have to put it out there publicly.
00:45:36 Ginny
Yeah, it's OK to explore.
00:45:40 Ginny
But that when you said themes that come up in your readings, the last two weeks, there's it's come up over and over again in reading after reading.
00:45:51 Ginny
I feel like it's worthy, especially with you saying that I'm like, this needs to be heard.
00:45:58 Ginny
There are so many people.
00:46:01 Ginny
And recently, they've all landed in the chair in my office.
00:46:07 Ginny
Who are harboring things against the person who has passed, and it's true that.
00:46:19 Ginny
We have to let go of people who hurt us in our lives.
00:46:25 Ginny
But once people cross over everything, just kind of dissolves.
00:46:32 Ginny
It's all love.
00:46:33 Ginny
They are not the same horrible, even evil, being that they were on Earth side.
00:46:41 Ginny
And whatever they were playing out, whether it was for them or whether it was for you.
00:46:47 Ginny
Or both of you.
00:46:48 Ginny
Which usually it's both.
00:46:50 Ginny
And it's not there anymore.
00:46:54 Ginny
And that puts the ball back in our court of forgiveness.
00:47:01 Ginny
And even if you don't want to connect with that person spiritually, that's OK.
00:47:07 Ginny
But they might be coming through with a message that they love you or that they're sorry.
00:47:13 Ginny
And as a medium, that is the hardest message to deliver.
00:47:19 Ginny
Because, yeah, as a medium, you don't want to hurt the.
00:47:26 Ginny
You don't want to push them to forgive when they're not ready to forgive, like it's kind of none of our business were just messenger.
00:47:35 Ginny
That's the thing.
00:47:36 Ginny
We are the.
00:47:38 Ginny
We work for the spirit.
00:47:40 Ginny
World. So if that message is coming through, I have to deliver it to you and it is on you to explore your own heart. Whether you're ready or not.
00:47:51 Ginny
But this theme of forgiveness?
00:47:54 Ginny
Has been coming up over and over again, and it is just it's been wild.
00:47:59 Ginny
Been like, OK.
00:48:01 Ginny
Is this like also for?
00:48:04 Ginny
Because why are these people, you know, landing in my room?
00:48:10 Medium Natashia Mack
That's wild and such a beautiful, beautiful share.
00:48:15 Medium Natashia Mack
Those messages I I can already feel it like someone needs to hear them.
00:48:19 Medium Natashia Mack
Even.
00:48:21 Medium Natashia Mack
It makes me very emotional because I have.
00:48:25 Medium Natashia Mack
I had that experience where someone who crossed over. I didn't want to hear from them.
00:48:30 Medium Natashia Mack
I didn't want to have.
00:48:32 Medium Natashia Mack
I didn't want them to come through.
00:48:33 Medium Natashia Mack
Know.
00:48:34 Ginny
Yeah, yeah.
00:48:34 Medium Natashia Mack
We're both part of like, practice circles, right?
00:48:36 Medium Natashia Mack
And we.
00:48:37 Medium Natashia Mack
With other mediums and I've always just said this firm boundary like I do not want to hear from this person.
00:48:42 Medium Natashia Mack
Not allowed in my home. Like in spirit, you know.
00:48:44 Ginny
Yeah.
00:48:45 Medium Natashia Mack
And so I there was.
00:48:50 Medium Natashia Mack
This one practice I did where this person did come through the medium and I was like.
00:48:58 Medium Natashia Mack
I have to hear this out.
00:48:58 Ginny
Yeah.
00:49:00 Medium Natashia Mack
I have to hear this out and just see is it is this the right moment where I'm I'm meant to finally?
00:49:09 Medium Natashia Mack
Hear them out and forgive or whatever.
00:49:11 Medium Natashia Mack
And it did.
00:49:13 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm so glad that I did hear them out and it did lead to me finally feeling peace and forgiveness and acceptance.
00:49:22 Medium Natashia Mack
So like like you said, it's it's the ball is in our court. Then what we're carrying in our hearts, it's only going to.
00:49:34 Medium Natashia Mack
Weigh us down. Right. Like it's going to.
00:49:35
Yeah.
00:49:37 Medium Natashia Mack
So anyways, also in the readings I've been doing lately, forgiveness has been coming up as a theme for sure.
00:49:38 Ginny
Yeah.
00:49:42 Ginny
Here. Yeah.
00:49:44 Medium Natashia Mack
Sorry. Oh, no.
00:49:46 Ginny
OK, has been coming up as a theme for you too.
00:49:50 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, in.
00:49:50 Ginny
That's wild.
00:49:51 Medium Natashia Mack
There's a lot of self forgiveness though.
00:49:53 Medium Natashia Mack
Forgiving yourself for you know not.
00:49:57 Medium Natashia Mack
Doing the thing sooner or.
00:49:59 Ginny
Yeah.
00:50:00 Medium Natashia Mack
Staying so long in a ****** situation and things like that.
00:50:03 Ginny
Yeah.
00:50:05 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, I just love that you shared that. Thank you.
00:50:08 Ginny
Yeah. And I just wanna encourage your listeners to we all have those people.
00:50:15 Ginny
So if you have that person, you don't wanna hear from, you're not alone.
00:50:20 Ginny
I, as mediums, we have those people, we don't wanna hear from.
00:50:25 Ginny
And it's part of our human experience, you know.
00:50:28 Medium Natashia Mack
Yes.
00:50:30 Ginny
Yeah.
00:50:30 Medium Natashia Mack
Exactly, being a medium doesn't make you this, like holier than thou being right where you don't have things like that happening. And so yeah, even as a medium, it was interesting navigating that experience of like.
00:50:35 Ginny
Yeah.
00:50:45 Medium Natashia Mack
I know it would be good for me to forgive, but I'm not ready and I'm.
00:50:51 Medium Natashia Mack
Like bitter about it and whatever you.
00:50:53 Medium Natashia Mack
Because of.
00:50:54 Ginny
Yeah.
00:50:55 Medium Natashia Mack
Because of what that person caused when they were here, you know? But it's it's amazing how much lighter you feel when you are ready to kind of release that and you know, forgive.
00:51:00 Ginny
Yeah, exactly.
00:51:08 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah. Anyways, again, I can talk to you for literally ever.
00:51:08 Ginny
I know.
00:51:12 Ginny
We cook you.
00:51:14 Medium Natashia Mack
But to you know, before we wrap this up, can you share with my listeners how they can find you, how they can?
00:51:21 Ginny
Yeah.
00:51:21 Medium Natashia Mack
With you.
00:51:23 Ginny
My website is Santa Rosa Beach medium.com.
00:51:30 Ginny
I did that for the SEO and it's been.
00:51:33 Ginny
People are finding me on Google, but Santa Rosa Beach is where I live in Florida and it's just Santa Rosa beachmedia com.
00:51:42 Ginny
And I do virtual readings as well as in.
00:51:46 Ginny
So this is a hot vacation spot and I will do group readings for families or like girls trips to come down as well.
00:51:56 Ginny
It's fun.
00:51:57 Ginny
There's a lot of opportunity here.
00:51:59 Medium Natashia Mack
I love.
00:52:00 Medium Natashia Mack
I love that you offer in person as well. 'cause not a lot of people do nowadays.
00:52:05 Ginny
Yeah.
00:52:06 Medium Natashia Mack
But I think I just like I love online as well, but I love having people in person and I love that you do group events too. That's amazing, so.
00:52:12 Ginny
Yeah.
00:52:15 Ginny
Yeah, it's, it's so fun.
00:52:17 Medium Natashia Mack
And that's so smart.
00:52:19 Medium Natashia Mack
Like to add the like the name of where you live in there.
00:52:24 Medium Natashia Mack
My gosh, you're right.
00:52:25 Ginny
Yeah, it's it's been.
00:52:27 Ginny
I felt strongly that this was.
00:52:32 Ginny
As long as I came out of the closet with it, it was going to be spirit lead and the people who are meant to find me will find me.
00:52:40 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah.
00:52:41 Ginny
And that's exactly what has happened.
00:52:44 Medium Natashia Mack
Isn't that amazing? Yeah.
00:52:46 Ginny
It is.
00:52:47 Ginny
It's how do you know?
00:52:47 Medium Natashia Mack
Again I can.
00:52:48 Ginny
Yeah, it's how you know you're exactly where you're supposed to be.
00:52:52 Medium Natashia Mack
Go on exactly because it just feels like.
00:52:56 Medium Natashia Mack
It just flows and it just aligns and it just clicks and yeah, it's the best feeling.
00:53:02 Medium Natashia Mack
So thank you so much for coming on and sharing all of those.
00:53:05 Ginny
Yeah. Yeah, it's been so fun.
00:53:07 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm so grateful.
00:53:09 Medium Natashia Mack
And thank you to the listeners for you know.
00:53:13 Medium Natashia Mack
Being part of this conversation and joining us, and if you, you know, have any questions, leave them.
00:53:21 Medium Natashia Mack
You know in the question box or whatever on Spotify or you know you can find us on our socials.
00:53:28 Medium Natashia Mack
Definitely go give Jenny a follow and we'll see you guys next week. Bye.
00:53:30 Ginny
Thank you.
The Hot Mess Medium Show Ep. 14 - How to: Surender
“But Natashia, wtf does “Surrender” even mean??”
I answer that & sooo much more in this episode, it’s basically a whole Masterclass.
I can already predict (😉) that this will he my most popular episode yet.
Think of it as, “Surrendering For Dummies”, or, “Surrendering 101”.
This entire episode flowed threw my channel after receiving a spark of inspiration and I KNOW it will spark something in you.
I break down:
How to Surrender in simple steps so you can get started like, now
Why you want to incorporate this practice into your life
How surrendering enhances your relationship with your intuition (and how they work together hand-in-hand)
How surrendering leads to being more open & available for miracles, new opportunities & positive changes
How the act of surrendering is the key to experience more inner peace & Divine support in your life & less exhaustion from trying to control everything around you.
My own personal journey with surrendering & how it has changed my entire life for the better
Examples to truly help you grasp & understand this practice
Transcript
00:00:00 Medium Natashia Mack
Hey, guys. Welcome back to the hot mess medium show. I am currently sitting in my bed with my Kitty cat.
00:00:10 Medium Natashia Mack
Looking for attention and I just had a thought occurred to me that maybe some of you could really use some support and guidance on how to surrender, because I know that this is a word that is often thrown around, but.
00:00:28 Medium Natashia Mack
A lot of people don't have an idea of how they can do that or start doing that.
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Surrendering is definitely a practice.
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It's not something that you can just kind of.
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Master.
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Like right away, it's something that I've been practicing for years now.
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And it's so it's such a big part of my life.
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It's so normal to me that I forget that like I forget that.
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That's something like. It's like breathing.
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Like drinking water, it's like.
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Waking up in the morning, that's how.
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Much.
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Like, that's how big of a part of life it is for me, although it wasn't always like that. I used to try to control everything.
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And.
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Those were often the things that I focus most on, right?
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Would and I mean many of us do, right.
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Focus so much on all the things.
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We don't have control over.
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And we try to figure it out.
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Try to fix.
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We try to force.
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We're trying to figure it out.
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Hyper focus on it.
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Obsess over it.
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You know, for me it was how others viewed me and perceived me.
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You know well, that was one of the big things anyways.
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Are things that used to haunt me?
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Again, I'd obsess over it and.
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It caused all sorts of issues inside of me and you know this distortion inside of me this.
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Whatever the opposite of peace is, is what I experienced very, very often.
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And yeah, that's just like the, you know, the the main example I kind of wanna bring forward. But I mean there's there's a lot of ways I didn't surrender 'cause I didn't know about it.
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But once I did know about it, it's something that was not necessarily easy for me to start incorporating.
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It was just something I was.
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Intentional about incorporating, right?
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And you don't even have to be super spiritual.
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To start surrendering, honestly.
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Because what's gonna happen is if you start setting the intention to start surrendering, it's going to unfold and unravel sort of organically, you know, so.
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All you sort of need at first is that desire for change.
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For more ease.
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For more support.
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If you are listening to this, I I'm I'm assuming I feel like it's super safe to assume that you are in that position where you are ready for more of that, right?
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Needs to change.
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You're ready for life to not feel so hard all the time.
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To not feel so exhausting and forced. And you're. Yeah. You're ready for more.
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Flow and support, whether that's support from the universe, from your higher power, right from the divine that is available to you.
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So first step one is recognizing that it's like, oh, OK.
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There is something greater than me.
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Something bigger than me.
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And even if you're not clear on what that is yet, that's OK.
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For me, that's that's God.
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The.
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That's my higher power, right?
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And it was just a matter of recognizing that like, OK, there's there's this creator who loves me.
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And wants to support me.
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And that support is available to me.
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And so I'm going to start allowing that support into my life.
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Which means I've been blocking that support in my life.
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Am I blocking?
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The one in my life, by trying to control everything and trying to do it all on my own.
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OK. So you see like when you start to none.
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You know, when you decide to start walking this path of surrendering, you start to acknowledge certain habits and mindsets and perspectives.
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But you may have that have been so unsupportive and so unhelpful. And, you know, you might even feel called to write some of these things down.
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To write down what?
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What is stopping me from believing I'm allowed to receive this support or believing that I'm a worthy of receiving this support?
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And just kind of.
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Connecting some of those dots and realizing like, OK, is this ultimately true 99.9% of the time? It's not.
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A lot of those beliefs, a lot of those stories that we've fabricated over time, a lot of it comes from, you know, childhood how we were raised.
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The lack of support that was available to.
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Us.
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As we were growing up, right?
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Or just things that you saw growing up?
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How you were treated?
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All of that jazz, you know?
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So anyways, that's like step one.
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It's just kind of deciding and acknowledging and recognizing all that from there.
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It's kind of like a declaration that you are deciding to make.
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Making I'm declaring that I surrender.
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You can say it in your.
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You can say it out loud. You could say it.
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From the top of a mountain, you could you could be driving in your car. You could be sitting on the toilet.
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Matter.
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You will be heard.
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It's all about having the intention behind your words and believing it.
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Am declaring.
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I surrender.
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I surrender and I am acknowledging that I can't do all of this on my own.
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That doesn't actually mean anything bad about me.
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It doesn't mean **** about me.
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It really doesn't. What it does mean is that I am ready and willing to accept the love and support that I am so worthy of that I am.
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That is available to me.
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And and that's it.
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It's like I'm I'm.
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I'm ready and open and willing to receive, because what's the opposite of that? The unwillingness to receive, right?
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This being closed off.
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And unwilling to receive.
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Oftentimes, for some of us, it can feel unsafe to receive.
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Could feel overwhelming to receive.
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Can feel like.
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Like what's coming to mind is A is a story about, well, if I don't do it all on my own, and if I don't, you know, sorry if I don't do it all on my own, then that means I'm weak or I'm weak.
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I'm that.
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But that's not that's not true, right? And maybe you know.
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You're gonna start recognizing those those stories that you tell yourself and those limiting beliefs.
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Know I did.
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I know I absolutely did.
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For the longest time, I felt so unworthy, so, so, so unworthy.
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You know, that's usually the core wound that we all carry. Is that unworthiness?
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And and sometimes it's just a matter of like starting to question it.
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Get curious.
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With that wound, um.
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You know.
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But from from a place of no judgment like you're not.
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We're not meant to look at those wounds.
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With judgment in our hearts, it really is about having compassion and just being open to explore.
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It.
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Does.
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That make sense?
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So anyways.
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Back to your declaration.
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You were declaring that you are ready to surrender.
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It could literally be something like. I know for me, like, yeah, I'll just share, like, my own personal way of doing it. It's like God.
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I am sick and tired of my own ****.
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I am sick and tired of doing this on my own.
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Am sick and I am tired and I am ready.
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For more ease in my life, I'm ready for more support in my life. I am ready.
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To just be to not have to think so hard about.
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To not have to be in control of everything 'cause. It's so exhausting doing it on your own.
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So exhausting trying to figure it all out on your own.
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And there's so much more ease.
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When there is this.
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Sprinkle of unknown.
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It really is so much easier.
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Wanna know why?
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Because instead of you.
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Trying to predict everything in your own life and trying to have it all figured out and to know everything that's coming and everything that's going and whatever.
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You are trusting maybe without even realizing.
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It means you are trusting that there is a greater plan.
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You are trusting that.
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There is more available to you that you wouldn't be able to figure out or foresee for yourself, and that's actually a beautiful thing.
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Doesn't mean anything negative about you.
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It's actually amazing.
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The feeling on the inside.
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The.
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Stability that comes.
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The sustainability that comes from within the groundedness even when you can just trust that there is a greater plan that you can't see.
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But you will be led.
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And it will be taken care of for you.
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That's like.
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Like just so nourishing.
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It feels so good in my body to just know that, like, no matter what, no matter what comes my way.
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No matter what life hands me like, I'm gonna be led, and I'm gonna be so supportive.
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So what happens with that?
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Is this beautiful relationship between like that?
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All of that and your intuition.
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Because that is how the creator speaks. You is through that that greater power I was talking about the divine consciousness, the thing that's bigger than you.
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That speaks to you through your intuition, and so you will be led. You will receive divine bread crumbs, nudges, inner knowings ideas.
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Downloads whatever you wanna call it, it's gonna come to you.
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And your only job is to follow that and listen to those.
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The other thing that's so divine and so beautiful and so amazing is that it also works through those around you in people, places and things like.
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So you don't need to worry that like, Oh my God, what if I miss?
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What if, what if, like I, you know, does this mean I have to constantly pay attention to my thoughts and constantly pay attention to like this and that?
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No, because again, then it's like.
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Hyper fixation overload.
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That's not nourishing, that's not.
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Right, this relationship is meant to be supportive and nourishing and helpful.
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So if you're you're constantly in your head and you're waiting for the next thing in your, you know, or you feel like you're rushing or you're.
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Yeah, just like super in your head and not able to be present.
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That's not the point of this at all.
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The thing with nudges is they start off.
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When, just in your intuition in general, it typically will start off very subtle and soft, and over time it will nudge you a bit louder and a bit louder and a bit louder.
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And you know, as I mentioned, it's gonna come through different people, places and things, and and it'll repeat itself.
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It'll repeat itself. The thing that you know the the phrase that's popping into my mind right now is like what's meant for you will not miss you.
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It won't.
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You won't miss it.
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It'll it'll come to you.
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And you can trust that just like you can trust in that, define higher power to support you when you decide to let go of the reins to let go of that control and decide that you want more is you want more flow.
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And this does not mean you will not experience challenges and obstacles and pain and suffering.
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Absolutely not.
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But guess?
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When you are in a season of of pain or suffering.
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Or, you know, you experience those challenges and obstacles that divine support will be there the whole way through and make it easier.
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OK.
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I know this first hand.
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And I'm so grateful.
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That I started practicing surrendering before all of my health issues came to be.
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Because there were many times where I was able to recognize.
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That what I was facing and experiencing.
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Would have caused me to give up.
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It would have caused a past version of myself to decide this isn't worth it or I can't do this.
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I am so grateful.
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That I know deep in my bones because I've been practicing this for years now that that divine support is always there no matter what.
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I still have moments of fear.
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I still have moments of.
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I still have moments of doubting and defeat.
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I absolutely have those moments, but those moments do not last.
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They do not last.
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They're so fleeting.
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Are so.
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Minimal compared to what they would be.
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If I did not have this relationship, if I did not have.
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If I did not know.
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That that divine support was there for me.
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So as I mentioned before.
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Surrendering is such a practice.
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But it you know, and it's not gonna be perfect.
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There's gonna be times.
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Where you get shaky, where your your trust just isn't there.
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Maybe there's like a bit of a lack of flow because you are focusing too heavily on what you are not in control of. And that's normal because you are human and this isn't about perfection. This is about making progress, right?
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I, like I said.
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It's a practice meaning.
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A muscle that you exercise, that's what it is.
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Like you're exercising your trust muscles.
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You're exercising your ability to surrender and to let go and let God let the Creator let the universe let you know.
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That divine love and support.
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So that you do not have to do it all on your own.
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Because you were never meant to, just like.
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We were never meant to go through hard things alone without people, right?
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It took me so long to get to the point where I finally let people.
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In and let myself receive from other people and let myself experience true, genuine connections.
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You know, receive the love that they had that they wanted to give me, that they genuinely wanted to give me.
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And that's because for so long, I truly believed I was not worthy because I had made-up these stories.
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In my head that well, you know.
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Because.
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This person in my life.
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Didn't show me the love that I needed. That meant that I'm not worthy.
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It's so easy for us to carry those limiting beliefs and those made-up stories in our head without even realizing it, like it's just so it's such an unsubconscious thing, right?
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That you live with and you just it's so normal to you.
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It's it's just become such a part of you that you don't even question it, and that's why I'm sharing this with you.
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Why you're listening to this, right?
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You're going to start to realize like oh.
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I have that.
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That's weird.
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Do I have to keep living with that? Absolutely not.
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Absolutely not. You get to decide.
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Differently.
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The thing is, awareness is power. When you become aware, you get to take your power back, because when you become aware, it becomes your responsibility.
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Which equals power which equals.
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You get to change it.
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That's like the most amazing part of it.
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You get to decide differently for yourself.
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And so my invitation to you.
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Is to.
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Decide.
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To declare that you surrender and be open to that divine support.
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And it's so wild. Like I I I wish I could scream this from the top of the mountain it.
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Blows my mind, even though I've been doing this for years.
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The divine orchestration that takes place when you decide to surrender it will knock your socks off.
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The way that things just like perfectly align.
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Is insane.
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Like the way that opportunities present themselves, things just magically happen. By the way, when I say magically happen.
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This does not mean you don't need to get off your **** and do your part.
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Obviously have your part to do.
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Is important.
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Your part is.
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Listening to your intuition, following those nudges taking action when you feel guided to take action and not letting you know.
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That inner voice, who doesn't want you to make any changes?
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You know, don't don't listen to that. That that's that's your part.
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But.
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I am at a point now where I can just put out there.
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I am, you know, I'll just be like, oh, I really want more opportunities to travel for work and for people to find me so that I can do that and be of service in new ways. You know, reaching new people.
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I could say something like that and completely surrender it.
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I even said it.
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Because I'm just, I'm putting it out there and I'm just trusting that when I put it out there, something amazing will happen with it and I don't know when it's gonna work out.
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Don't know if it'll work.
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I don't know how it'll work out, but I'm just. I'm putting it out there.
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Right. That's an act of surrender and trust.
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Surrendering this desire.
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I'm putting it out there and I'm forgetting about it.
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And then bam, someone finds me and invites me on an all expenses paid trip to go and be a speaker at a woman's gathering.
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Not only that, I've always had a dream of speaking in front of lots of people, and it turns out that I'll be speaking in front of over 200 people.
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And.
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I I can't even believe this is happening, but that that was all.
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Like this is a dream come true that was completely divinely orchestrated, and this is like, that's a big one. In addition to the big ones, there are so many little ones.
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Just so many things where I could be like.
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Oh, I I could really use a new kitchen table.
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I think I've talked about that story on the podcast before.
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My mom literally gifted me her kitchen table and chair set, and I never brought it up.
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Never even set it out loud to anyone.
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I just I I feel like these things happen whether you wanna call it manifestation or whatever, right?
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So many words for it guys, there's like.
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Siffing with spirituality.
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It all crosses over.
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All.
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There's so many different words you can use for all the same things, right?
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But anyways, for me it's just.
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I know my prayers are being heard.
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I know my prayers are being answered and just like you know, I could.
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Let's say you wanted a change in your job and then you get a nudge to reach out to that friend. You haven't talked to in a long time.
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And you, you know, you resist it. You overthink it.
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Like, oh, they're gonna.
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They're not gonna want to or. Or is it gonna be weird?
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It's been so long, I don't know.
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You sit with it, you make up these stories in your.
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Whatever the nudge keeps popping up, you end up seeing them in the grocery store.
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My.
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And then you have some uncomfortable small talk.
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But then you decide right then and there.
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Know.
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We should have coffee.
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Go out for coffee all of a sudden, she tells you about about the job that she's working at and how much she loves it.
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It's so great. And you're like, wow, that's exactly what I've been wanting.
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Then she's like, Oh my God.
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There's actually we're hiring. There's a position open and you're like, no way.
00:27:17 Medium Natashia Mack
That's how it works. I'm not.
00:27:19 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm not even kidding. That's how it works.
00:27:24 Medium Natashia Mack
It's like it's just it's amazing.
00:27:29 Medium Natashia Mack
That's an example of how you know you put something out there in your intuition.
00:27:36 Medium Natashia Mack
Is.
00:27:37 Medium Natashia Mack
It's it's it's like.
00:27:41 Medium Natashia Mack
It's letting you know. Hey, go do this or go do that or this is available to you.
00:27:48 Medium Natashia Mack
But it's not going to make sense in the moment.
00:27:53 Medium Natashia Mack
It's not going to click in the moment.
00:27:56 Medium Natashia Mack
Going to, you're going to question it.
00:27:57 Medium Natashia Mack
Going to second guess it.
00:27:59 Medium Natashia Mack
Going to doubt it.
00:28:00 Medium Natashia Mack
You're gonna have these stories coming up.
00:28:03 Medium Natashia Mack
That's so normal.
00:28:05 Medium Natashia Mack
That's so, so normal.
00:28:07 Medium Natashia Mack
And this is where that trust comes in.
00:28:11 Medium Natashia Mack
Like OK, this is random.
00:28:14 Medium Natashia Mack
This is so random that you know I'm getting this nudge. It doesn't make sense.
00:28:21 Medium Natashia Mack
But you know.
00:28:21 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm just gonna give it a shot. I'm gonna reach out to her anyways.
00:28:26 Medium Natashia Mack
Or whatever you know.
00:28:29 Medium Natashia Mack
And that's just, that's just how it works.
00:28:32 Medium Natashia Mack
That's how surrender comes in again.
00:28:35 Medium Natashia Mack
Surrendering which means.
00:28:38 Medium Natashia Mack
Getting out of your head and you're just you're listening to your intuition and allowing that to be your guide so that you don't have to think about it so hard and try to control it because.
00:28:52 Medium Natashia Mack
You know, going back to that example, if you.
00:28:58 Medium Natashia Mack
Weren't surrendered, and you're so focused on trying to do it all on your own. You're looking so hard for this job.
00:29:07 Medium Natashia Mack
You are trying all these different things. You are getting discouraged as all these things happening and it's just not lining up.
00:29:19 Medium Natashia Mack
Right. But then there's this.
00:29:22 Medium Natashia Mack
The answers coming to you, even though you don't know what's answer yet 'cause it doesn't seem connected.
00:29:28 Medium Natashia Mack
It's so random.
00:29:30 Medium Natashia Mack
It's like I'm praying for this and you're giving me that.
00:29:33 Medium Natashia Mack
Come on. What are you even doing right?
00:29:36 Medium Natashia Mack
But then you answer it.
00:29:41 Medium Natashia Mack
And then it literally just like leads you to what you've been praying for.
00:29:47 Medium Natashia Mack
It's wild.
00:29:48 Medium Natashia Mack
I swear it.
00:29:50 Medium Natashia Mack
It is a wild journey and So what if?
00:29:53 Medium Natashia Mack
What if you just decided to try it out?
00:29:57 Medium Natashia Mack
What?
00:29:59 Medium Natashia Mack
What do you have to lose?
00:30:03 Medium Natashia Mack
Honestly, what do you have to lose?
00:30:06 Medium Natashia Mack
Doesn't cost anything.
00:30:09 Medium Natashia Mack
It really doesn't.
00:30:11 Medium Natashia Mack
Except maybe, you know, you get some of your sanity back.
00:30:14 Medium Natashia Mack
Because.
00:30:16 Medium Natashia Mack
You're not going so crazy trying to control it all on your own.
00:30:21 Medium Natashia Mack
You gain peace.
00:30:26 Medium Natashia Mack
It's amazing. So.
00:30:30 Medium Natashia Mack
That is how you surrender.
00:30:34 Medium Natashia Mack
And you know, I just did a.
00:30:36 Medium Natashia Mack
This feels like a a whole master class on on how to do that and how to create more ease and flow in your life and so much more.
00:30:48 Medium Natashia Mack
So I hope you enjoyed this.
00:30:51 Medium Natashia Mack
I hope this inspires you and I'm excited for you.
00:31:00 Medium Natashia Mack
I really AM.
00:31:01 Medium Natashia Mack
I feel.
00:31:02 Medium Natashia Mack
I feel it in my heart.
00:31:03 Medium Natashia Mack
Feel it in my soul.
00:31:04 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm excited for you to experience.
00:31:09 Medium Natashia Mack
The endless possibilities and and the magic.
00:31:15 Medium Natashia Mack
Of surrendering and just know that you are so worthy. Like just so unbelievably worthy of receiving.
00:31:25 Medium Natashia Mack
You really are.
00:31:28 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm sending you so much love and.
00:31:32 Medium Natashia Mack
Talk to you guys later. Bye.
The Hot Mess Medium Show Ep. 13 - How to know if your loved ones in Spirit are with you [With Special Guest, Laura Walton]
Hey guys - Welcome back to the Hot Mess Medium Show! In this episode Laura & I have an expansive and nourishing conversation all about life after death.
Some of the things we touched on...
-Answering the call to push past barriers & limitations to take yourself out of the box (& how this is a sign of entering "New Earth")
-Laura's personal experiences with navigating grief (suicide & overdose) and how it inspired her path and how she is here to be of service
-What it feels like when your loved ones are near
-We curiously share our takes on the difference between the Spirit and the Soul, what happens after we pass & reincarnation
-How to start paying attention to how different energies feel in your body to enhance your intuition and your connection with your loved ones in Spirit
-How connections with your loved ones are meant to change & evolve over time
-How you get to choose which beliefs feel most supportive & nourishing for you on your grief journey
-An intuitive message from Laura
-& so much more
Enjoy! xo
Laura's website: https://www.griefonpurpose.com
Follow Laura on IG or FB at @grief.on.purpose
Or join the Grief on Purpose Facebook group
For upcoming events, private readings & more info on how you can have your questions answered in the podcast, go to: www.mediumnatashiamack.com
Follow me on Instagram: @mediumnatashiamack
Transcript
00:00:02 Medium Natashia Mack
And there we.
00:00:03 Medium Natashia Mack
We are recording. OK, so welcome back, guys, to the hot mess. Medium show. Almost forgot the name of this podcast.
00:00:11 Medium Natashia Mack
Today I have a special guest for you.
00:00:14 Medium Natashia Mack
Uh.
00:00:15 Medium Natashia Mack
Laura Walton.
00:00:17 Medium Natashia Mack
My friend and past student. Laura, thank you so much for coming on today.
00:00:22 Medium Natashia Mack
Really excited to see where this conversation goes.
00:00:26 Medium Natashia Mack
We were just.
00:00:29 Medium Natashia Mack
We were just kind of going over what we should be talking about and then she was about to tell a very interesting story. So I stopped her and said, let's go ahead and hit record and just see where, see what happens and where this goes. So.
00:00:42 Medium Natashia Mack
We will get into.
00:00:43 Medium Natashia Mack
But first, I would love for if you can introduce yourself.
00:00:47 Medium Natashia Mack
I know that's kind of like a loaded thing.
00:00:50
I don't.
00:00:50 Medium Natashia Mack
But you my mind goes blank when someone asks me. So who are you?
00:00:54 Medium Natashia Mack
Tell us about you.
00:00:56 Medium Natashia Mack
But go for.
00:00:57 Medium Natashia Mack
I would love. Yeah, love if you could share about you.
00:01:00 Laura
Yeah, it is always a hard question to answer.
00:01:03 Laura
Am I?
00:01:03 Laura
How do you summarize that in one or two?
00:01:06 Laura
But but yeah, so I'm trained as a mental health therapist.
00:01:15 Laura
I've been primarily working with grief and death and trauma within my mental health practice, but I've also in the last couple years been been focusing more on shifting out of the mental health realm.
00:01:30 Laura
And focusing more on.
00:01:34 Laura
In various ways, just trying to broaden my my reach and my ability to work with people in different ways through the lens of grief.
00:01:44 Laura
Support through grief.
00:01:48 Laura
In, in a lot of different ways, but not limited to the box of mental health or therapy.
00:01:55 Laura
Specifically.
00:01:57
OK.
00:01:58 Medium Natashia Mack
I love that.
00:02:00 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm so curious, like when you're sharing that a question kind of came to me.
00:02:04 Medium Natashia Mack
Like what sort of sparked that for?
00:02:06 Medium Natashia Mack
What sparked your desire to kind of shift past the mental health realm and more into this area that you're going?
00:02:16 Laura
Yeah. Well, I've I think I've felt sort of.
00:02:20 Laura
Trapped in a box of of no, I won't say mental health, but I'll say more so therapy because it it's.
00:02:27 Medium Natashia Mack
OK.
00:02:30 Laura
It's a licensed profession which is good in a lot of ways, but with that also comes a lot of rules and regulations.
00:02:42 Laura
And structure around what you are quote UN quote supposed to do or not supposed to do.
00:02:50 Laura
And and when you're working as a therapist, often times it's, you know, one-on-one.
00:02:59 Laura
And there's.
00:03:00 Laura
Only so many hours in a day that I, well, there's only so many hours in a day.
00:03:07 Laura
But then there also there's only so many hours in a day where I have the capacity to be working one-on-one. So I have felt that.
00:03:16 Laura
My my abilities.
00:03:19 Laura
And the options I have available to me have been limited through the rules and regulation side and just through the time the timing side and my ability to.
00:03:29 Laura
Work with people has felt like it's gotten limited and in a lot of ways I've sort of outgrown.
00:03:34 Laura
So it's just starting to feel that has been, I think the initial driving for force at least in, in figuring out what other ways are there in which I can still work with.
00:03:48 Laura
Grief within a topic and context that is very personal to me and that I'm very passionate about but not feel so limited.
00:03:58 Laura
In what I can and cannot do.
00:04:00 Medium Natashia Mack
Absolutely. I love this so.
00:04:02 Medium Natashia Mack
What this reminds me of is like this is new earth like this is like where we're going, right?
00:04:10 Medium Natashia Mack
Pushing past those limitations kind of breaking those barriers, taking yourself out of boxes and kind of creating this new way of thinking of doing things.
00:04:22 Medium Natashia Mack
People. And you know when people have that inner driving force to do things like that, like you.
00:04:29 Medium Natashia Mack
It means to me anyways that you are so destined for doing that right for paving that path for these new ways of healing and supporting people and. And it means that it's needed.
00:04:44 Medium Natashia Mack
Like, what's so important? It means that it's.
00:04:46 Medium Natashia Mack
Your work is needed, so I love that you shared that. That's so awesome.
00:04:49 Medium Natashia Mack
And I've been seeing that a lot, specifically with like mental health workers and therapists and, you know, of all kinds starting to tap into their mediumship abilities or their intuitive abilities, or incorporating more healing modalities into their practice.
00:05:08 Medium Natashia Mack
Again, kind of stretching those barriers and things like that.
00:05:11 Medium Natashia Mack
That's really, really cool.
00:05:14 Medium Natashia Mack
And then so you had mentioned that you had your own sort of experiences that.
00:05:21 Medium Natashia Mack
Led to this as well.
00:05:24 Medium Natashia Mack
Your own experiences with grief and stuff, so I'd love if you can share a little bit more on that if you feel comfortable with that, of course.
00:05:32 Laura
Yeah. So in my 20s, my world kind of got rocked by death and grief unexpectedly. When I was 21, my dad committed suicide.
00:05:43 Laura
Then when I was 26, my the person who was my.
00:05:47 Laura
Boyfriend Slash best friend in the world died of a drug overdose.
00:05:52 Laura
So both of those things.
00:05:56 Laura
Just kind of shattered the reality of the world that I had known a world in which, you know, death only happens to other people until it happens to you.
00:06:04 Medium Natashia Mack
Of course.
00:06:06 Laura
Absolutely.
00:06:06 Laura
But but really, the reality that I had known and I was so young that there was.
00:06:14 Laura
I was kind of alone in it and then I didn't know many other people, my peers who had experienced those types.
00:06:22 Laura
Of deaths.
00:06:24 Laura
So I found myself just navigating this.
00:06:27 Laura
Where that I was not prepared for and could not find the support to to figure out how to navigate it. So seeing that lacking.
00:06:37 Laura
Was what?
00:06:39 Laura
Was my initial inspiration and motivation to go to grad school become a therapist and start down the path of this work?
00:06:46 Laura
What has continued my interest in this as many years have now gone by is just seeing how.
00:06:55 Laura
Well, actually I might say two things.
00:06:57 Laura
Is just seeing how.
00:07:00 Laura
Still.
00:07:02 Laura
Poorly equipped for death, we.
00:07:05 Laura
Which I always find ironic given the fact that it's gonna happen to all of us.
00:07:09 Laura
Like, why do we avoid this so much?
00:07:14 Laura
How poorly equipped for death we are and how misunderstood?
00:07:19 Laura
Then death in some ways and grief are.
00:07:22 Laura
And then also this fascination with the other side and spirit world and all of that, those two.
00:07:30 Laura
Those two pieces are what I think has kept me involved in this work.
00:07:37 Medium Natashia Mack
I love that and I so hear you and totally agree, even as a medium, like literally.
00:07:46 Medium Natashia Mack
Talking to spirit for a living.
00:07:50 Medium Natashia Mack
That could not have prepared me for.
00:07:56 Medium Natashia Mack
Dealing with grief and losing someone so close to me.
00:08:00 Medium Natashia Mack
So I can only.
00:08:03 Medium Natashia Mack
I I cannot even imagine just your what you.
00:08:06 Medium Natashia Mack
You would have experienced, you know.
00:08:09
No.
00:08:11 Medium Natashia Mack
In your first few experiences.
00:08:14 Medium Natashia Mack
With loss in such a traumatic way, you know, and not having those tools and not not having anyone around who can kind of relate to that or or who could offer support, that sort of thing.
00:08:25 Medium Natashia Mack
So I love. I love that.
00:08:26
And.
00:08:28 Medium Natashia Mack
You were able to kind of take what life had given you and do something with it that you knew like, OK, this is what's missing.
00:08:36 Medium Natashia Mack
Gonna fill in this gap and I'm going to learn and I'm gonna support people.
00:08:42 Medium Natashia Mack
In the way that I.
00:08:43 Medium Natashia Mack
Needed support type of thing.
00:08:45 Medium Natashia Mack
So that's really incredible. And thank you for sharing.
00:08:45 Laura
Yeah.
00:08:49 Medium Natashia Mack
You know when you had mentioned that curiosity with, you know, life after death and the other side and and I'm so curious now, 'cause. I love asking anyone who comes on here like if they've if you've had any personal experiences.
00:09:08 Medium Natashia Mack
With the spirit world like, you know, maybe with your past loved ones.
00:09:12 Medium Natashia Mack
I'd love to hear about that.
00:09:14 Laura
Yeah. Yes, I have and that.
00:09:20 Laura
You'll get more in depth in that in a.
00:09:22 Laura
But.
00:09:23 Laura
Of the first ways that I remember kind of coping with the deaths, when I when they happened was trying to trying to figure out where they were.
00:09:33 Laura
I wasn't raised with any religion, so I didn't come into this having any particular belief system about.
00:09:40 Laura
About what happens when we die? And so when that happened when people died, I found myself like, wait, but where are they?
00:09:50 Laura
And just really trying to like wrap my head around figuring this out.
00:09:55 Laura
I read a lot of books I.
00:09:57 Laura
Just spending a lot of time. This was in the early 2000s.
00:10:02 Laura
So we didn't have as many online resources available, but spending a lot of time in Barnes and Noble just standing in the IT must been like the self help or spirituality section or something standing in that section just pouring over books with tears pouring down my face and.
00:10:19 Laura
Trying to.
00:10:21 Laura
Find some answers or some direction somewhere, so through.
00:10:26 Laura
All of the things I read and information I absorbed, I think I kind of just cobbled together my own belief system and understanding of.
00:10:36 Laura
What death was and what happened and where my people were, who had now died.
00:10:43 Laura
So maybe that contributed to a little bit of this, but I do remember prudence.
00:10:50 Laura
Not even prisons like immediately actually actually rewind for a second.
00:10:55 Laura
So.
00:10:56 Laura
So I had AI was much closer to the boyfriend who died than my.
00:10:59 Laura
So we had a better relationship, so that death was harder for me than my dad's death was, and I even remember the day.
00:11:07 Laura
So he wouldn't.
00:11:08 Laura
Die until late, late that night. But the day of his death, when he was still alive, I felt so weird. This I've never before or since. Had anything like this experience happen to me? But I just felt like.
00:11:25 Laura
Something was terribly.
00:11:26 Laura
I felt something was off in my.
00:11:28 Laura
I just felt so weird, but I had no context for it and no words for I didn't know what was going on.
00:11:35 Laura
And of course, at the time there was nothing abnormal.
00:11:37 Laura
About that day.
00:11:40 Laura
But then, in hindsight, when you know the early the next morning, when I learned he died.
00:11:47 Laura
Then I looked at it through a different lens and was like it was there. The way I've come to understand that what it means to me is that there was.
00:11:56 Laura
Some connection there between us and his soul knew that it on some level that it was preparing to leave, and I felt that.
00:12:05 Laura
And I knew something was going on there before it even happened, which is crazy to even.
00:12:11 Laura
Say out loud.
00:12:12 Medium Natashia Mack
I have chills as you're talking about it, that is wild.
00:12:15 Laura
Yeah, yeah.
00:12:18 Laura
So, you know, I hadn't even necessarily thought about that before in this context.
00:12:24 Medium Natashia Mack
But.
00:12:26 Laura
And then immediately after his death, for the immediate days, weeks, months, even following, there were just so many things that happened just as far as electricity, like lights going on and off, phones ringing.
00:12:40 Laura
Was there just all of these things that happened that the way I made sense of that?
00:12:47 Laura
Through what I read and through other stories from other people was him.
00:12:51 Laura
His energy.
00:12:52 Laura
Just trying to communicate in some way, make its presence known and it was allowed for a while.
00:12:59 Laura
It did quiet down.
00:13:02 Laura
Eventually, but that that I think for me, planted the seeds of being able to even consider this, because I if you had told this to me 25 years ago I'd be like you're a crazy person.
00:13:15 Laura
And I would not have even.
00:13:18 Laura
Considered this possibility or considered that I'd be sitting here having this conversation like this wasn't a possibility.
00:13:24 Laura
So I think just experiencing what I experienced laid the groundwork maybe.
00:13:30 Laura
For this being possible in my in my realm of possibility.
00:13:36 Laura
And then I did start to actually be able to feel his presence at certain.
00:13:41 Laura
I remember I was driving once and I just felt I just knew he was in my passenger seat.
00:13:47 Laura
I I could just feel this kind of like tug on my energy over there and I was like, hey, looked over and just said hi to him and it just felt he was just there as crazy as that might sound.
00:14:01 Medium Natashia Mack
Not crazy at all, especially.
00:14:03 Medium Natashia Mack
Look who you're saying this to.
00:14:05
Yeah.
00:14:05 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah. No, that does not surprise me one bit, but I think it's so important to share stuff like that, especially specific examples that people can put themselves in your in, you know, your shoes.
00:14:16 Medium Natashia Mack
It really helps them to.
00:14:21 Medium Natashia Mack
Kind of think back at moments where they had those similar experiences, but then they, you know.
00:14:28 Medium Natashia Mack
Thought that they were crazy or they're just making it up because it feels like.
00:14:31 Medium Natashia Mack
Making it up.
00:14:32 Laura
Yeah.
00:14:32 Medium Natashia Mack
It just feels so natural.
00:14:34 Medium Natashia Mack
Just like how you're saying, like, I just knew, like there's no.
00:14:37 Medium Natashia Mack
To describe.
00:14:38 Medium Natashia Mack
I just knew or you just felt it and it was this weird natural, like. Oh, hi, you're there.
00:14:44 Medium Natashia Mack
I definitely relate to that. When it comes to my grandmother, I this is like.
00:14:50 Medium Natashia Mack
The second big loss that I've experienced, but although this one hit significantly harder than than the loss of my grandfather, I'm talking about my the loss of my grandmother, of course, and.
00:15:06 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm having such similar experiences with her where I just feel her all the time.
00:15:13 Medium Natashia Mack
I hear her talking in my mind. You know, I feel her with me and.
00:15:17
Mm.
00:15:21 Medium Natashia Mack
I I talk to her as if she's right beside me and it feels so natural.
00:15:24 Medium Natashia Mack
But then the human part of me will be, even though I'm a medium.
00:15:42 Medium Natashia Mack
Using her recipe and it was her first Christmas without her and I could feel her with me. And when I was all done.
00:15:49 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm getting emotional when I was all.
00:15:52 Medium Natashia Mack
I heard her say.
00:15:53 Medium Natashia Mack
My mind.
00:15:55 Medium Natashia Mack
Like I'm proud of you, my.
00:15:56 Medium Natashia Mack
Like you did a good job and I started crying and sobbing. And I'm like, did I just make that up or did I really hear her?
00:16:03 Medium Natashia Mack
No, it made me so emotional and I just, you know, the medium in me was like, no, that was her. That was real.
00:16:09 Laura
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kit. Is it OK if I?
00:16:13 Laura
You a question?
00:16:13 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh my.
00:16:14 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, go for it.
00:16:16 Laura
How do you feel it or is like, what does it feel that feel like to you?
00:16:22 Medium Natashia Mack
That's so.
00:16:23 Medium Natashia Mack
I was literally gonna ask you that.
00:16:25
Question.
00:16:26 Laura
Cordsay work.
00:16:27 Medium Natashia Mack
We're very right now.
00:16:29 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah. What does that feel like?
00:16:33 Medium Natashia Mack
So I think it's different for everyone. But when I feel a spirit in my energy, it's like, so I I'm very in tune with.
00:16:45 Medium Natashia Mack
My energy field right that extension of your spirit that surrounds you. I'm in tune with.
00:16:49 Medium Natashia Mack
Meaning it's very sensitive. I could feel when something crosses it that you can't see with your physical eyes, right?
00:16:56 Medium Natashia Mack
So for me it's like I could feel this slight change of pressure.
00:17:01 Medium Natashia Mack
The just it's so ever slight that this. Yeah, this like pressure change.
00:17:08 Medium Natashia Mack
Temperature change like it's just this.
00:17:12 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh, there's something in my energy field that wasn't there before.
00:17:18 Medium Natashia Mack
And then from there I'm able to use all of my senses to kind of become aware of.
00:17:23 Medium Natashia Mack
Well, what is it?
00:17:25 Medium Natashia Mack
I get curious and and sometimes it's just this inner knowing that drops in like it, just like in my brain that like, oh, like or. This will feel very familiar, right?
00:17:38 Medium Natashia Mack
Like and that's what it sounds like.
00:17:40 Medium Natashia Mack
It chills so.
00:17:41 Medium Natashia Mack
That's what it sounds.
00:17:43 Medium Natashia Mack
Or that's what it sounds like.
00:17:47
That.
00:17:48 Medium Natashia Mack
Why can't I use my words right now?
00:17:50 Medium Natashia Mack
You're too close to me right now.
00:17:53 Medium Natashia Mack
She wasn't good with her words anyways.
00:17:57 Medium Natashia Mack
It sounds like that's what happened when you're, you know, when you felt your boyfriend sitting next to you in the passenger seat.
00:18:04 Medium Natashia Mack
It was just so natural and familiar.
00:18:07 Medium Natashia Mack
Their energy is so familiar it feels like home.
00:18:10 Medium Natashia Mack
Just it feels like.
00:18:12 Medium Natashia Mack
I don't know so.
00:18:15 Laura
Yeah, you know, I had hadn't thought about this in that context before, but that is a good point because it's been so long now.
00:18:21 Laura
Been 18 years since he died, so.
00:18:27 Laura
His energy and death is more familiar to me than his energy in life, but I think that that's, I think what you're saying is at the time, his energy in life was so familiar to me that I knew what that felt like, right?
00:18:40 Laura
Yeah, I think that is a part of it.
00:18:42 Laura
That this.
00:18:43 Laura
Felt familiar then and then.
00:18:45 Laura
Just something that has.
00:18:48 Laura
I forgot that that's what it was like in life, but it still feels familiar, and that's how I know for yeah, that's interesting. And for me, it feels like it's it's interesting, 'cause. It's always to my right.
00:18:51 Medium Natashia Mack
Yes.
00:19:01 Laura
The energy is always to my right.
00:19:04 Laura
Like up a little bit.
00:19:08 Laura
That's it's interesting.
00:19:11 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, I was gonna say that's so interesting, but also really quick side note, when you were practicing mediumship, were you able to?
00:19:21 Medium Natashia Mack
Was that something that showed up for you when you were when you were practicing on sitters?
00:19:26 Medium Natashia Mack
Were you able?
00:19:28 Medium Natashia Mack
See or or know where the spirit was on like on which side they were on.
00:19:34 Medium Natashia Mack
Know that's such a weird question.
00:19:35 Laura
Yeah, I don't, I don't.
00:19:39 Laura
If it did, I wasn't.
00:19:40 Laura
I wasn't paying close attention to it. 'cause that doesn't stand out to me with other people energy. But maybe I just didn't tune that tune into that enough.
00:19:45 Medium Natashia Mack
Right.
00:19:49 Laura
It could be.
00:19:50 Medium Natashia Mack
OK.
00:19:51 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah. So typically like, let's say, if I'm like, this doesn't happen all the.
00:19:56 Medium Natashia Mack
But sometimes if I see that the loved one kind of standing behind the sitter or like my client, I'll see, like, let's say they'll be on the right side, which to me means the paternal side.
00:20:10 Medium Natashia Mack
Or through the left side.
00:20:11 Medium Natashia Mack
That means maternal and sometimes, if they're up higher, that would mean OK parent or grandparent.
00:20:17 Medium Natashia Mack
Know what I?
00:20:18 Medium Natashia Mack
Like their position sometimes determines.
00:20:22 Medium Natashia Mack
Their position in.
00:20:25 Medium Natashia Mack
In life or, you know, in family, that sort of thing.
00:20:27 Medium Natashia Mack
I thought that was interesting.
00:20:29 Medium Natashia Mack
You mentioning that he's always on your right.
00:20:34 Laura
Well, I know that you know the right.
00:20:37 Laura
Masculine.
00:20:38 Medium Natashia Mack
It's not spelled.
00:20:39 Laura
The symbolic of that.
00:20:40 Laura
So I've thought about in that context before but, but yeah, it's always to the right.
00:20:44 Medium Natashia Mack
Thank you, chair.
00:20:46 Laura
Always like slightly up.
00:20:48 Laura
And it feels like a tugging like a pulling of my attention. Kind of.
00:20:53 Medium Natashia Mack
Ah, OK.
00:20:55 Laura
And then it's just a knowing like what you said like which is hard to try to describe or and it's easy to to doubt.
00:21:05 Medium Natashia Mack
I know.
00:21:07 Laura
But but it's.
00:21:08 Laura
But there is also a different a clear and distinct difference for me.
00:21:13 Laura
In when I just know something to be true, as opposed to when, I'm, like, hopeful that something's true or when I'm fearful that something's true or when I'm trying to control something to be a certain way, like those things I'm super clear on.
00:21:30 Laura
What those things feel like in contrast to what just feels true to me.
00:21:37 Laura
And his presence just feels true to me.
00:21:43 Medium Natashia Mack
OK.
00:21:44 Medium Natashia Mack
I love how you broke that down because as you're saying that I can also picture that.
00:21:49 Medium Natashia Mack
Like what? Those different things feel like for me, and I feel like that's such a good thing.
00:21:57 Medium Natashia Mack
For everyone to get familiar with.
00:22:01 Medium Natashia Mack
Like to kind of and how to do that?
00:22:02 Medium Natashia Mack
Think back at times, right?
00:22:05 Medium Natashia Mack
Think back at times where.
00:22:09 Medium Natashia Mack
You.
00:22:10 Medium Natashia Mack
Kind of connect those dots for yourself and for me, like I feel things in my gut, so I don't know about you, but it's like if something.
00:22:11 Laura
Yeah.
00:22:20 Medium Natashia Mack
Is true I.
00:22:21 Medium Natashia Mack
It feels so solid and grounded in my gut.
00:22:25
It is.
00:22:26 Medium Natashia Mack
And then it's weird. Like if there's.
00:22:30 Medium Natashia Mack
Soon as.
00:22:30 Medium Natashia Mack
Said hopeful. It's like lifted from my.
00:22:34 Medium Natashia Mack
It's so weird how I can kind of gauge it.
00:22:38 Medium Natashia Mack
Like in my body and I know it's so different for everyone, but I think you know.
00:22:40 Laura
Yeah.
00:22:44 Medium Natashia Mack
Like people are gonna listen to this and be like, oh, and maybe be more mindful of it or start noticing it and connecting those dots.
00:22:49 Laura
Yeah.
00:22:51 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, that was like, really valuable.
00:22:54 Laura
Yeah. Well, I'm glad and I do.
00:22:55 Laura
I personally think that is like, as you said, everybody's different. The way these things translate in our bodies feels different and but I think that that's maybe I could go so far as to say like the first key or the first step.
00:23:10 Laura
In starting to be able to.
00:23:14 Laura
Understand this connection, whatever this connection is for you, you have to know how different things translate into your body in order to be able to.
00:23:26 Laura
To feel that connection with with spirit, but also with anything else.
00:23:33 Medium Natashia Mack
Right. Yeah, with with spirit, but also even just intuitively in your day-to-day life, right?
00:23:39 Laura
Yeah.
00:23:40 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, super, super important.
00:23:42 Medium Natashia Mack
I love that so much.
00:23:43
Yeah.
00:23:45
OK.
00:23:48 Medium Natashia Mack
So.
00:23:50
Replay.
00:23:50 Medium Natashia Mack
We talked about your experiences with.
00:23:53 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh, well, OK. What I was trying to think like where to go from here, but.
00:23:58 Medium Natashia Mack
Let's go back a little bit to.
00:24:03 Medium Natashia Mack
Grief.
00:24:06 Medium Natashia Mack
And what are some of the ways that you still?
00:24:12 Medium Natashia Mack
Kind of keep that connection going with your loved ones in spirit.
00:24:19 Medium Natashia Mack
Or like.
00:24:20 Medium Natashia Mack
Whether it's personal or like maybe some of the work that you've done with clients, like how?
00:24:26 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah. Anyways, go ahead share.
00:24:32 Medium Natashia Mack
So I'm struggling to formulate the question, but I think I think you know what I'm trying to say.
00:24:37 Laura
Yeah. Yeah, I think so.
00:24:43 Laura
You know, for me at this point.
00:24:46 Laura
My personal experience in.
00:24:47 Laura
It's just, you know, it's been 18 years and like 21 years since the deaths happened. Something like that.
00:24:53 Laura
So it's just.
00:24:56 Laura
Been.
00:24:58 Laura
So long that the that connection and that energy.
00:25:03 Laura
Feel it's it's like it's almost like asking me like, how do you remember to breathe every day?
00:25:10
Right, yeah.
00:25:11 Laura
It's just like a part of what I do, you know, it's a part of my day is just feeling.
00:25:15 Medium Natashia Mack
OK.
00:25:18 Laura
That that connect, although I mean I I wanna be clear.
00:25:22 Laura
I don't always feel that.
00:25:24 Laura
It's not always there and I and it has changed over the years and I think gotten a little quieter and softer over the years, but but.
00:25:33 Laura
It's been enough that it's.
00:25:37 Laura
Laid the groundwork, I think, for just for this, like ongoing knowing and understanding.
00:25:45 Laura
Of that connection being there in some form or another, now and forever.
00:25:53 Laura
So I just like kind of know that to be true for me now.
00:26:01 Laura
Now I'm forgetting what your question was.
00:26:03
OK.
00:26:06
I think it does.
00:26:07 Medium Natashia Mack
I think it does.
00:26:09 Medium Natashia Mack
You know, I like the part where you're mentioning how.
00:26:13 Medium Natashia Mack
Those those connections change and evolve over time, and I feel like that is how it's meant to be and it doesn't mean that you are forgetting about them or they're not as important or you know, whatever it is 'cause I think sometimes people hold on so tight because.
00:26:16 Laura
Yes.
00:26:32 Medium Natashia Mack
So afraid of what it means if they start to let go.
00:26:34 Medium Natashia Mack
And I started to move forward, right.
00:26:37 Laura
Yes.
00:26:37 Medium Natashia Mack
So it's important to know that it is actually OK and it doesn't mean anything bad if that connection does.
00:26:49 Medium Natashia Mack
You know, it's not as present or it's not as.
00:26:53 Medium Natashia Mack
It's not taking up so much space in your energy right over the years.
00:26:57 Laura
Yeah.
00:26:58 Medium Natashia Mack
It's a sign that you are growing and evolving and changing and and healing, which is a very beautiful thing, I think, right?
00:27:06 Laura
Yeah, yeah. You know, I I once did this.
00:27:09 Laura
There was a period of time where I was doing these sessions with a woman who called herself a medical medium, I think.
00:27:18 Laura
It was a very interesting experience, but.
00:27:21 Laura
At this point, I'll say maybe it had been.
00:27:26 Laura
I'm just picking her number, but let's say, like 12 years or thirteen years or something since.
00:27:32 Laura
My boyfriend had died.
00:27:36 Laura
12 years.
00:27:37 Laura
And she said something that what that I had never even considered as being a possibility and the kind of like it literally took my breath away.
00:27:46 Laura
She said that he was preparing.
00:27:50 Laura
To enter into new a new life or something like that, like he had in however many years had passed. Yet 12 years he hadn't yet done that.
00:27:58 Laura
Now he felt ready to do that and was preparing to do that. And I was like, holy ****, that wasn't part of my plan.
00:28:07 Laura
What does that mean?
00:28:10 Laura
Like, that's not how I'd.
00:28:13 Laura
How I anticipated things would go, but then starting to think about.
00:28:20 Medium Natashia Mack
But OK.
00:28:21 Laura
So what if that is a part of what happens?
00:28:23 Laura
You know, and so he enters into another.
00:28:26 Laura
I even asked her. So what does that mean for the connection that I've had with him thus far?
00:28:30 Laura
It become less if he's busy living a life and and.
00:28:36 Laura
And she I remember exactly what she said. But something like yes.
00:28:39 Laura
Some ways yes.
00:28:42 Laura
He will always have a.
00:28:44 Laura
In his new life, he'll always have.
00:28:47 Laura
An affinity for the time period that you knew each other.
00:28:52 Laura
So always be like really interested in that time.
00:28:55 Laura
That's.
00:28:56 Laura
You know, to think about the time periods historically that I'm interested in.
00:29:01 Laura
But anyway, that that possibility of somebody who we've loved entering into a new life and what that means for our connection with them.
00:29:13 Laura
Was a new thing for me to consider and think about at that time and has been something I've I've continued to kind of try to wrap my mind around what that means and how that connection still maintains if they are in a new life.
00:29:29 Laura
Is I'm curious for you. Is that something you've in your conversations with the other side?
00:29:34 Laura
That something that's come up for you before.
00:29:37 Medium Natashia Mack
For.
00:29:38 Medium Natashia Mack
Definitely something that I've been so curious about on my mediumship development journey and you know and like as a human, you're just so, well, we're curious, right?
00:29:50 Medium Natashia Mack
We're naturally very curious, but also.
00:29:53
We.
00:29:56 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, like for a long time I tried to figure out like, how does that work, but basically.
00:30:01 Medium Natashia Mack
You know, we have our soul and we have our spirit.
00:30:06 Medium Natashia Mack
And so you would still have a connection.
00:30:11 Medium Natashia Mack
With the spirit of who he was and in that lifetime that connection you had with him, but his soul would be in a new body. You.
00:30:20 Medium Natashia Mack
Know what I mean?
00:30:21 Medium Natashia Mack
Like, that's the way that.
00:30:24 Medium Natashia Mack
So far anyways, on my journey that I've come to understand, it is like the layers.
00:30:30 Medium Natashia Mack
The soul.
00:30:31 Medium Natashia Mack
And the spirit and how?
00:30:35 Medium Natashia Mack
Obviously there's so much more that we can even begin to understand as humans, right until we get to the other side and then we kind of know.
00:30:45 Medium Natashia Mack
How everything?
00:30:46 Medium Natashia Mack
But yeah, that's the way that I understand it is like it's like the layer, the spirit is a layer over top of the soul.
00:30:54 Medium Natashia Mack
And so you're still always gonna have that connection with the spirit.
00:30:58 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, the soul has the ability to reincarnate still.
00:31:02 Medium Natashia Mack
So it's not like you're losing him forever or you know.
00:31:05 Medium Natashia Mack
Like your loved one forever type of thing.
00:31:11 Medium Natashia Mack
Because the spirit I feel like.
00:31:13 Medium Natashia Mack
Is what encompasses their personality, their characteristics, their experiences, everything that they learned in the lifetime that they had, right.
00:31:24 Laura
Yeah.
00:31:25 Medium Natashia Mack
So like you, Laura, the spirit within you is gonna contain everything from this lifetime.
00:31:32 Medium Natashia Mack
And that energy is never gonna die.
00:31:36 Medium Natashia Mack
That, like the essence of your spirit, is never gonna die.
00:31:39 Medium Natashia Mack
Never gonna be destroyed.
00:31:41 Medium Natashia Mack
It's it's always going to be.
00:31:44 Medium Natashia Mack
But your soul will continue to reincarnate in different lifetimes.
00:31:49
Mm.
00:31:50 Medium Natashia Mack
And yeah, anyways, this is like I don't know if any of that makes sense or.
00:31:55 Laura
Yeah, it does and.
00:31:58 Laura
You know what?
00:31:59 Laura
I was sort of and I don't know that this is right or wrong, but what I was sort of thinking as you.
00:32:04 Laura
That was.
00:32:04 Laura
The spirit being.
00:32:08 Laura
Maybe a part of?
00:32:13 Laura
Like the greater just consciousness that that is the connection of all of us and the soul being.
00:32:22 Laura
Kind.
00:32:22 Laura
What brings the life into a human form, or an animal, or a being or whatever that is still is connected to the spirit and the greater consciousness, but is also having a human experience.
00:32:38 Laura
Yeah. Again, I just came up with that.
00:32:41 Laura
Know if that's right or not.
00:32:42 Medium Natashia Mack
I know, yes. Because you know the soul is is.
00:32:46 Medium Natashia Mack
So if you think of like God, like greater consciousness, the creator.
00:32:52 Medium Natashia Mack
Just picture it, being this like ball of light and then us being the little seedlings, that kind of separate, right?
00:33:00 Medium Natashia Mack
Your.
00:33:01 Medium Natashia Mack
That's just kind of like separating and having a human experience, that sort of thing. I don't know.
00:33:07 Medium Natashia Mack
The way I've always pictured in in my brain.
00:33:10 Medium Natashia Mack
And which is interesting.
00:33:12 Medium Natashia Mack
'Cause I see it as the egg, like an egg.
00:33:16 Medium Natashia Mack
Like inside of a woman and then.
00:33:20 Medium Natashia Mack
The little seeds kind of like little sperm.
00:33:23 Medium Natashia Mack
You know what I mean?
00:33:24 Medium Natashia Mack
Like it's just interesting when you think of creation and the Creator and how it's all connected.
00:33:28 Laura
Yeah.
00:33:30 Medium Natashia Mack
I don't know. That's how I see it in my brain.
00:33:32 Laura
Yeah.
00:33:34 Laura
Yeah. No, that is really interesting.
00:33:38 Laura
And.
00:33:41 Laura
I guess it if I look at it through that lens, that would make sense too, as time has passed. How the?
00:33:50 Laura
Like at one point the connection that I felt with these people was right there, you know, right in my face and how that it's gotten more subtle.
00:33:56 Laura
It's gotten more quiet and so, but still there, but in a different way. And maybe that points to what we're talking about here is that's more the connection to.
00:34:07 Laura
Their spirit, but their soul maybe.
00:34:11 Laura
Doing something else right now.
00:34:13 Medium Natashia Mack
It's very possible.
00:34:16 Medium Natashia Mack
This is something I definitely want to like.
00:34:20 Medium Natashia Mack
Set with spirit and kind of see what comes up. It makes me very curious to know more. You know, I feel like so much of my mediumship development journey has been focused on learning the insurance and outs of evidential mediumship like the action of doing that and ser.
00:34:25 Laura
Yeah.
00:34:38 Medium Natashia Mack
That way.
00:34:39 Medium Natashia Mack
But so little has actually been.
00:34:43 Medium Natashia Mack
Focused on.
00:34:46 Medium Natashia Mack
Learning the insurance and outs of the spirit world and how things work beyond the veil and all of that.
00:34:56 Medium Natashia Mack
Obviously I have.
00:34:59 Medium Natashia Mack
You know, I have knowledge and experience with it, but just not like there's certain questions I have that I didn't realize I had until I kind of have conversations like this where I'm like, wow, I would really love to sit with spirit and learn more. So you've Insp.
00:35:06 Laura
Yeah.
00:35:13 Medium Natashia Mack
Me with this and.
00:35:16 Medium Natashia Mack
I'll have.
00:35:16 Medium Natashia Mack
I'll have to update people with my findings as.
00:35:20 Medium Natashia Mack
As I start, you know, actually sitting with spirit and yeah, learning more. But that leads me to wanting to ask you.
00:35:31 Medium Natashia Mack
The story you were going to share before I cut you off so that I could hit record. I would love to hear what what you were going to share.
00:35:35 Laura
Mm.
00:35:41 Laura
Yeah, well, so there was another student who was in the the mediumship training that I had done.
00:35:49 Laura
With you.
00:35:52 Laura
And we.
00:35:54 Laura
Partnered up during that, I think to do a few like practice exercises.
00:35:58 Laura
I knew her a little, but I wasn't really.
00:36:01 Laura
Wasn't like friends with.
00:36:02 Laura
We became friends on social media, but that was it.
00:36:05 Laura
And then a couple years and then that class ended and then a couple years passed and nothing happened.
00:36:11 Laura
And then.
00:36:13 Laura
Around this time last year, I was just feeling this crazy sense of urgency that I needed to reach out to her and get a medium reading with her.
00:36:23 Laura
Like specifically, I needed to get this reading and I didn't do like I had this thought a few times.
00:36:28 Laura
Didn't do it because I was busy or whatever and then, but then I kept.
00:36:34 Laura
It got to a point where every time I was looking at social media, a post of hers was what I was. The first thing that I was seeing.
00:36:43 Laura
So I eventually just reached out and got the medium reading with her, but at the time it didn't make sense.
00:36:50 Laura
Didn't know who was coming.
00:36:52 Laura
I didn't know what it was about.
00:36:54 Laura
It didn't.
00:36:54 Laura
It didn't give me.
00:36:57 Laura
Any clarity, especially given the fact that I had felt such urgency to get this reading, but it kind of just.
00:37:04 Laura
Forgot about it for a few days, but about a week after the reading.
00:37:10 Laura
The person who came through died, so that means that he had come through, was still alive.
00:37:17 Laura
But his death was nearing.
00:37:21 Laura
And then there was an accident.
00:37:23 Laura
Actually, yeah, there was an accident. He was in a coma for a couple days before he died. And so on the night of the accident, when I was laying awake, just tossing and turning.
00:37:32 Laura
It it just.
00:37:34 Laura
Connected that and I had that drop in like knowing you were talking about and I was just like that was.
00:37:40 Laura
I it just like I just knew it all made sense in the context of this person, but I hadn't obviously thought about him because he was still alive at the time.
00:37:49 Laura
So that started kind of this ongoing throughout almost all of last year conversation I did.
00:37:56 Laura
Well, I did. And then I also.
00:38:00 Laura
Coordinated a couple readings with her, with his various family members, but so this kind of ongoing evolving conversation through her with him over the majority of last year, which was just really crazy to.
00:38:17 Laura
Experience that on so many different levels with somebody coming through before they died and then like this evolving thing.
00:38:25 Laura
Was really cool.
00:38:26 Medium Natashia Mack
Wow.
00:38:29 Medium Natashia Mack
OK.
00:38:29 Medium Natashia Mack
So when when they had come through, they weren't in a coma, they didn't have Alzheimer's, like there wasn't anything like that. Wow.
00:38:37 Laura
No, and it was somebody young, so he it was an accident.
00:38:41 Laura
Why he died, he wasn't sick.
00:38:43 Laura
So when he came through, it was about.
00:38:46 Laura
I don't remember exactly how many days, but a week.
00:38:51 Laura
Maybe a couple days over a couple days, less than a week, but about a week before the accident.
00:38:58 Laura
And then the accident.
00:38:59 Laura
And then there were two days while he was alive in a coma.
00:39:03 Laura
And then died.
00:39:05 Medium Natashia Mack
Wow.
00:39:08 Laura
Yes.
00:39:10 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh my God.
00:39:13 Medium Natashia Mack
Well, I don't even know what to say because.
00:39:18 Medium Natashia Mack
And so like I've I've.
00:39:20 Medium Natashia Mack
Experiences where you know I'm doing a reading for someone and.
00:39:28 Medium Natashia Mack
Like the information coming through resemble like it's talking about someone who's living.
00:39:33 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, but usually like typically.
00:39:37
It's.
00:39:39 Medium Natashia Mack
Another loved one kind of bringing that information forward.
00:39:42 Medium Natashia Mack
So it's like I I don't realize until after that. You know, they're like, oh, well, that all resonates with this one person, but they're still alive.
00:39:51 Medium Natashia Mack
So to me, in my mind, I'm like, oh, that means that someone else is bringing that information forward. But I'm so.
00:39:59 Medium Natashia Mack
Anything is possible, honestly.
00:40:01 Laura
Yeah.
00:40:02
Well.
00:40:03 Laura
You know it's interesting because I remember asking you this or having this conversation at some point when I was doing the training with you about this topic of people coming through while they're still alive and.
00:40:15 Laura
The ants, I think from how I remember at least the answers you had based off of what your experiences were were were that people who were like in coma.
00:40:25 Laura
Or who were terminally ill.
00:40:29 Laura
Or maybe very old like that and the experience in that those people who are kind of had one foot, you know, 1 foot in this world, 1 foot out already.
00:40:40 Laura
That had come through, but even that, though being planted as a seed of possibility when somebody's technically still alive, and I think in hindsight.
00:40:54 Laura
Paired with the experience of mine that I was talking about earlier where I just, I felt so weird that day of the death, although at that point nothing had happened, like kind of pulling from that. Like I think made me even.
00:41:03
Right.
00:41:09 Laura
Able to consider.
00:41:13 Laura
The possibility of.
00:41:16 Laura
Of this being him that had come through before he.
00:41:20 Laura
I mean, it did feel so, so true to me in everything she said applied directly to him.
00:41:26 Medium Natashia Mack
That's insane.
00:41:27 Laura
But, but you know, without having had these experiences and conversations with you, like I don't.
00:41:32 Laura
I might have also just been like, yeah, but you're crazy and dismiss.
00:41:35 Medium Natashia Mack
Right.
00:41:38 Laura
But because these these had been planted, I think that made space for the possibility of it, and I was like.
00:41:46 Laura
OK, but what if you know? But just what if this were possible?
00:41:49 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah.
00:41:50 Laura
And considering that.
00:41:51 Medium Natashia Mack
For sure.
00:41:53 Laura
And I think, I mean, I know from my experience and the people I've worked with experiences and working with grief like choosing that over choosing.
00:42:04 Laura
You're the crazy person.
00:42:06 Laura
Makes makes surviving without your person.
00:42:11 Laura
In my experience, so much more manageable.
00:42:16 Laura
Absolutely. That's the road. If I have to live the rest of my life without this person, I'm gonna choose to live it in a world where I get to believe.
00:42:23 Laura
That there's still some, some something there, some kind of connection as opposed to believing I'm?
00:42:30 Laura
OK.
00:42:31 Medium Natashia Mack
Yes, not even just.
00:42:33 Medium Natashia Mack
Like even just to add to that, there are also. There's also this whole other area.
00:42:41 Medium Natashia Mack
Of belief where you know specifically.
00:42:46 Medium Natashia Mack
Those who are very religious, they believe that once you pass like you go back to, you know, God and you do not ever connect with your loved one.
00:42:59 Medium Natashia Mack
Any love? You know what, I.
00:43:01 Medium Natashia Mack
Like there's no more connection you don't hear from them anymore.
00:43:05 Medium Natashia Mack
And so that's like a whole other belief too.
00:43:09 Laura
Yeah.
00:43:11 Medium Natashia Mack
Where? So again for me and like what you're saying, I could not.
00:43:18 Medium Natashia Mack
Live knowing that I don't know.
00:43:20 Medium Natashia Mack
I just that's not like for me personally, that's just not.
00:43:26 Medium Natashia Mack
Something that feels that's not a supportive belief or like I just can't.
00:43:31 Medium Natashia Mack
Doesn't feel true to me at all, not only because.
00:43:35 Medium Natashia Mack
I I couldn't imagine spending the rest of my life.
00:43:40 Medium Natashia Mack
Just not having that connection with them while they're on the other side. But also there's just so much evidence that shows that they are still around and they are. You know what I mean?
00:43:50 Medium Natashia Mack
I've had so many personal experiences.
00:43:54 Medium Natashia Mack
Where they're definitely still around and they're, you know, trying to communicate with us and they're they're sending us signs and they're, you know, things like that.
00:43:56 Laura
Yeah.
00:44:02 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah. Thank you for sharing that story. That's incredible.
00:44:08 Medium Natashia Mack
I just thought of.
00:44:10 Medium Natashia Mack
One experience I had that.
00:44:14 Medium Natashia Mack
I still can't quite explain.
00:44:16 Medium Natashia Mack
Was a little bit similar where I was doing a reading for a client and this man came through who had a stroke but he survived the stroke and.
00:44:30 Medium Natashia Mack
You know, he was OK after.
00:44:32 Medium Natashia Mack
And you know, I had described this gentleman and it sounded like someone who is still living.
00:44:39 Medium Natashia Mack
To the sitter.
00:44:41 Medium Natashia Mack
And I think it was like a few weeks later, this actually happened to that man. He ended up having a stroke right before I think it was her daughter who got married, like, right before the wedding.
00:44:56 Medium Natashia Mack
But he ended up surviving it.
00:44:57 Medium Natashia Mack
He was OK after that.
00:45:01 Medium Natashia Mack
That.
00:45:01 Medium Natashia Mack
So that's what that made me think of. Like, you know, with you sharing your story made me think of.
00:45:06 Medium Natashia Mack
That situation where I kind of couldn't wrap my head around it.
00:45:09 Medium Natashia Mack
How is this?
00:45:10 Medium Natashia Mack
How did? How is it that he had come through before he had a?
00:45:14 Medium Natashia Mack
Kind of warning that he was gonna have one, but that he would be OK, so that everyone knew that he would be OK, right?
00:45:22 Medium Natashia Mack
There's just still so many questions, but I guess that is what happens when you're human and.
00:45:30 Laura
Yeah. And I think there's a lot that we just can't wrap our human brains around.
00:45:35 Laura
And that we try to fit into the context of the stories we we know or we've been taught and they don't fit.
00:45:44 Laura
But yeah, so I think just and I know it's hard to do but but.
00:45:52 Laura
Having the suggestions of these different possibilities and considering that and I don't think you know with different religious or cultural viewpoints or whatever, it might be that believe these certain things that I think that's fine if that's what you want to believe.
00:46:05 Laura
I think what's more important?
00:46:08 Laura
Is that you?
00:46:09 Laura
Is recognizing that you can make the choice in doing that.
00:46:12 Laura
You know, and believing in subscribing to that belief. What?
00:46:16 Laura
Whatever it is like, if it's something like if it's a religious belief or something that you're raised with, but then something happens that maybe rocks that that viewpoint, you do have the choice to reconsider if this is still true for you or not. True for you and either.
00:46:32 Laura
Is fine.
00:46:33 Laura
I think whichever choice you make, but anyway I think we can get so stuck in the stories we've we've.
00:46:41 Laura
We've tied ourselves to that.
00:46:45 Laura
Sometimes it doesn't leave room for these areas of possibility. That can be so like earth shattering.
00:46:53 Medium Natashia Mack
Absolutely. And I you said that so beautifully, by the way.
00:46:57 Medium Natashia Mack
Like I just love listening to you talk. You said that.
00:47:01 Medium Natashia Mack
Beautifully 'cause. It's so true.
00:47:02 Medium Natashia Mack
Know I mentioned like.
00:47:05 Medium Natashia Mack
Some people choose to believe because of their religious beliefs that you know our loved ones go somewhere and then there never to be heard from again. And but, like, maybe for someone if that is their way of coping with grief, then who am I to say that that.
00:47:20 Medium Natashia Mack
Wrong.
00:47:21 Laura
Yeah, yeah.
00:47:21 Medium Natashia Mack
Right, if that's what feels most supportive and nourishing for them, then that's that's perfect for them, for me.
00:47:28 Laura
Yeah.
00:47:28 Medium Natashia Mack
Then you know and then I have my beliefs that feel so supportive and nourishing for me.
00:47:33 Medium Natashia Mack
I really love that you added that.
00:47:35 Medium Natashia Mack
Part.
00:47:36 Medium Natashia Mack
I think that's a really important reminder for me too, that everyone's going to have.
00:47:41 Medium Natashia Mack
Their own ways of coping and.
00:47:44 Laura
Yeah, yeah, I think, yeah, we get to choose what feels supportive and nourishing for us, absolutely.
00:47:51 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh, this was such a good conversation.
00:47:54 Medium Natashia Mack
Before we kind of wrap this up, I would love if there's anything 'cause. You know, you're super intuitive.
00:48:02 Medium Natashia Mack
I was wondering if there's anything you feel called to share, like just like a message. Like maybe someone needs to hear it.
00:48:10 Medium Natashia Mack
Not to put any pressure on you, but.
00:48:12 Medium Natashia Mack
Don't don't overthink it.
00:48:13 Medium Natashia Mack
Over overthink.
00:48:14 Medium Natashia Mack
Like is there just something on your heart that?
00:48:18 Medium Natashia Mack
You could share.
00:48:22 Laura
Hold on.
00:48:27 Laura
Trust the process. That's what's coming.
00:48:30 Laura
Trust the process which I I need to heed that advice.
00:48:33 Laura
Maybe it's for me.
00:48:36 Laura
But also maybe, maybe maybe for somebody else too.
00:48:41 Medium Natashia Mack
Love that. I think that's the perfect message.
00:48:44 Medium Natashia Mack
'Cause it's something that's hard to do right.
00:48:46 Laura
Yeah.
00:48:48 Medium Natashia Mack
And, you know, even just like connecting that to our conversation about grief.
00:48:54 Medium Natashia Mack
That's that's a really hard one to trust, right?
00:48:58 Medium Natashia Mack
Whole process.
00:48:58 Laura
It's close so far.
00:49:01 Laura
I still battle that daily, right?
00:49:03
Because.
00:49:04 Medium Natashia Mack
Because it's like not linear.
00:49:07 Medium Natashia Mack
It's kind of a hot.
00:49:08 Medium Natashia Mack
It's a roller coaster. Some days you're totally.
00:49:12 Medium Natashia Mack
Other days you feel like you've been hit by a train.
00:49:17 Medium Natashia Mack
You know, because you just you feel them.
00:49:19 Medium Natashia Mack
And I actually started to wonder if the days where I am just a sobbing mess out of nowhere is because I feel her closest to me.
00:49:29 Laura
I know, but it's just a shift there in perspective, right?
00:49:34 Laura
What if that were true?
00:49:36 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, right.
00:49:37 Laura
That would change things for you, right?
00:49:39 Medium Natashia Mack
Yes, exactly like the days where I just like, can't get her off my mind.
00:49:40
Yes.
00:49:45 Medium Natashia Mack
Or I'm flooded with memories or whatever it is.
00:49:48 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm more emotional about.
00:49:51 Medium Natashia Mack
I I started to wonder like.
00:49:53 Medium Natashia Mack
It's gotta be because she's just, like, so close by. Like, she's right there. So of course.
00:49:57
You know.
00:50:00 Medium Natashia Mack
Feeling her?
00:50:01 Medium Natashia Mack
Of course I'm overwhelmed with emotions because I I'm missing her.
00:50:05 Laura
Yeah.
00:50:07 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah. So I like that.
00:50:09 Laura
I love that shift.
00:50:10 Medium Natashia Mack
Yes, yes, maybe someone needed to hear that too.
00:50:13 Laura
Yeah.
00:50:15 Medium Natashia Mack
Well, Laura, it has been a.
00:50:17 Medium Natashia Mack
I feel like this was such a nourishing conversation, and I feel like there's so many good golden Nuggets in here that are gonna be really supportive for my listeners.
00:50:25 Medium Natashia Mack
So can you actually let my listeners know?
00:50:29 Medium Natashia Mack
How they can connect with you like?
00:50:31 Medium Natashia Mack
What sort of offerings do you have? Tell us about it.
00:50:35 Laura
Yes. So my business that is not therapy.
00:50:40 Laura
It is now called grief on.
00:50:42 Laura
So I have a website that's grief on purpose.com.
00:50:46 Laura
Instagram grief dot on dot purpose and Facebook my current offerings are I have some grief courses and journals that I've created that have all been inspired by.
00:51:00 Laura
Over a decade of work as a therapist and just kind of tackling this, the common questions and misunderstandings that come up.
00:51:10 Laura
These are designed to be really supportive of people, but for people who are maybe.
00:51:15 Laura
Not going to go to therapy for whatever reason, but still want to.
00:51:21 Laura
Do some work, you know, and learn more about themselves and learn more about their grief.
00:51:25 Laura
I have those available.
00:51:28 Laura
I'm working on writing a book about yoga and grief and the integration of those two, so that's probably still a year plus out from publication, but that's in the works and.
00:51:45 Laura
At this moment I'm trusting the process and just kind of sitting with how I don't know exactly how.
00:51:49 Medium Natashia Mack
Love it.
00:51:54 Laura
This grief work that's not confined in the box of therapy. How that's going to fully evolve, but I'm letting that percolate and seeing what what comes from that.
00:52:08 Medium Natashia Mack
I love that.
00:52:10 Medium Natashia Mack
Is there anything else?
00:52:12 Medium Natashia Mack
There anything else?
00:52:13 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm just trying to think no, OK, you mentioned.
00:52:18 Medium Natashia Mack
Do you have a YouTube channel?
00:52:20 Laura
I don't have a YouTube channel, no, maybe some.
00:52:24 Medium Natashia Mack
Maybe someday, because that's what I was feeling was missing, but.
00:52:29 Medium Natashia Mack
But apparently it doesn't exist yet.
00:52:31 Medium Natashia Mack
Maybe it will someday.
00:52:31 Laura
It doesn't.
00:52:33
It.
00:52:33 Laura
Doesn't, but I'm I'm. I think I might be starting a podcast.
00:52:37 Laura
But maybe the that ties into the YouTube channel I'm trying to.
00:52:43 Laura
I need to get some more stories to include in the book that I'm writing, and I'm thinking about doing that through podcast form, but then seeing how that podcast evolves into maybe something greater so.
00:52:54 Laura
So that's maybe where you're picking up on YouTube?
00:52:54 Medium Natashia Mack
I love that.
00:52:57 Medium Natashia Mack
Probably.
00:52:59 Medium Natashia Mack
Well, thank you so much, Laura, and thank you to all of our listeners for, you know, tuning in today if you.
00:53:08 Medium Natashia Mack
Who want to or if you have any questions, definitely drop them below or below my.
00:53:13 Medium Natashia Mack
Well, yeah. In the episode Spotify anyways has like, a question box now or, you know, send a message to me or Laura, go follow her.
00:53:23 Laura
Yeah. Talk to you guys later.
00:53:26 Medium Natashia Mack
Bye bye.
The Hot Mess Medium Show Ep. 12 - How my spirituality has changed over the years & where I stand now
Welcome back to the Hot Mess Medium Show! This is (part 1) of an episode many of my OG listeners have been waiting for. The one where I finally spill a droplet of tea about the evolution of my spirituality and where I stand now, spiritually.
Let this episode be an example of how spirituality is meant to shift and evolve and how your personal relationship with a Higher Power is a personal journey.
It's not a “one-size-fits-all”. Extremes are unhealthy (so I've learned from experience). No one knows the ultimate truth while existing as a human here on planet earth. Which is why it is so important to develop your own intuition! Which, I personally believe, is our own personal connection to the Creator.
I've prefaced sharing my experience in this episode but I want to share this also…
I am sharing my own personal experiences. I am not coming from a space of judgement or knowing it all (because I definitely don't know it all). Something traumatic happened that changed the trajectory of my life and business and although at the time, it was extremely challenging to face and navigate, today I am so eternally grateful to be where and who I am now.
In addition to letting go of certain practices and beliefs, I am ADDING new practices and beliefs as I continue to re-learn more about my Indigenous roots as a First Nation woman.
I know in my heart I will continue to change, grow and evolve spiritually because we are literally Spirit in a body and that is part of living this life.
I think it's a beautiful thing that we are all so different and we are all just figuring things out for the first time with wobbly legs, you know?
Anyways - enjoy part 1! Xo
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Transcript
00:00:00 Medium Natashia Mack
Hey, guys. Welcome back to the hot mess medium show.
00:00:03 Medium Natashia Mack
So for this episode, I feel like.
00:00:07 Medium Natashia Mack
It's going to be Part 1 of a series that I do because I don't think that I could fit everything into one episode.
00:00:17 Medium Natashia Mack
I also don't want to put pressure on myself to squeeze everything into this episode, because then I'm going to.
00:00:25 Medium Natashia Mack
Overthink it and put pressure on myself that sorry, when I do put pressure on.
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It does.
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Kind of cause me to.
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Go blank and just struggle to stay in a bit of a flow so.
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Uh.
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I am currently sitting in a Walmart parking lot.
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And a snowstorm is happening.
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And I'm kind of avoiding driving home right now. So and I saw that I had a few people.
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Invite me to share a little bit more about my experience, kind of letting go of some of the.
00:01:12
Uh.
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Like new age.
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Spiritual.
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Beliefs and.
00:01:21 Medium Natashia Mack
Umm, not just beliefs, but just.
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I don't even know.
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So here's the.
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OK, I never really considered myself new age.
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I've never felt like.
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I was in any sort of.
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Box you know or had any sort of label?
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But looking back, I'm like, OK, I mean, I guess I could put myself in that box, like that version of myself in that box.
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Because.
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Of.
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You know.
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The things that I was doing and what I believed and how I was navigating my spirituality, you know.
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So.
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Basically I was.
00:02:23 Medium Natashia Mack
Born and raised Catholic like I was baptized Catholic.
00:02:28 Medium Natashia Mack
My I went to Catholic school my whole life.
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Grandfather was a.
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So, you know, Catholicism was always a big part of my life.
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I remember having a relationship with, you know, God and Jesus as a child.
00:02:49 Medium Natashia Mack
But it's not like like, aside from going to church every Sunday, it's not like.
00:02:56 Medium Natashia Mack
We were super religious in the home, you know. So basically like I would pray, you know, I would, I would pray.
00:03:06 Medium Natashia Mack
I felt.
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Guilty and like I was going to get.
00:03:10 Medium Natashia Mack
Trouble with God?
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You know, if I did bad things but wasn't like a super strict religious upbringing, you know?
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And then you know, in my teen years, I definitely steered away from having a relationship with God.
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Just kind of went on a different.
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I was very anxious, extremely highly sensitive, depressed like.
00:03:43 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, we don't have to get into that, but I just I I wasn't.
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Didn't feel a connection to God then, although I definitely had.
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Like like looking back now, I definitely had experiences.
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Where God was trying to reveal himself to me.
00:04:02 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah. And like I remember having an experience when I worked at a chip stand.
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It's so weird actually talking about.
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I don't think I've ever shared this on the podcast, so.
00:04:21 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, I think it was 15.
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I was.
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A very like, promiscuous teenager.
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You know, I wasn't living at my parents home anymore.
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Wasn't allowed.
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I was living with my sister and I was just kind of, you know, getting into trouble and things like that. So anyways.
00:04:44 Medium Natashia Mack
I can vividly remember I was doing a closing shift by myself and.
00:04:51 Medium Natashia Mack
I notice this homeless man, which, by the way, like there's no like we don't have homeless people in my small town like I had never seen this man before.
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It was the weirdest thing.
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Thing like what was clearly a homeless person going through the garbage like he was looking for something to eat and drink in the garbage and not just it.
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Really bothered me, and I remember I had made.
00:05:24 Medium Natashia Mack
A few boxing tips that day and I had, like a granola bar and and that so and I saw that he was like trying to drink like at someones old coffee.
00:05:38 Medium Natashia Mack
So I grabbed my tips. I go into the.
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The store next to like it was owned by the same.
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It's like a gas station convenience store and then right next to it was the.
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The chip.
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I go into the store and I got him a coffee.
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And anyway so.
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Outside to give him the money and the coffee, and like a granola bar. And I was like, here you go. Like like, this is for you.
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I remember being really shy.
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Oh my God, this is how I know.
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I'm getting.
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This is how I know that there's something to this.
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This was not a regular experience, I just.
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I don't even know how to put it into words.
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But when he looked at me.
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I knew I was in the presence of.
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I don't even know.
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Honestly.
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My intuition, like everything in my body at 15 years old.
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Chris.
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And it was Jesus, I thought. I've been.
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And like I'm having such an emotional reaction right now, because every time I think of it, it just like moves me.
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He had the most beautiful green eyes.
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And.
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I don't.
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There was just something about him that was like so.
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Special.
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And yeah, so anyways, I gave him that and he was.
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He smiled at.
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He gave me a big smile and I just. I don't know. It just touched me and it it had nothing to do with the fact that Lego would, being a good person.
00:07:42 Medium Natashia Mack
And I'm you know, giving.
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Giving this to him, and I feel so good about myself.
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Wasn't that whatsoever.
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I swear on my life it was the.
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Honest. Just like the interaction of just looking in his eyes and him looking into my soul.
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And.
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Just like this overwhelming inner knowing that I'm in the presence of.
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Someone wholly that's like the only way I could describe it anyways.
00:08:21 Medium Natashia Mack
I remember even telling my grandma about it.
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Like.
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I don't how long afterwards, but I remember telling her about it and I like cried and she cried. Like, why were we crying about this?
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Like.
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You know, I've given I've given money to homeless people. You know, I've I've given.
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A.
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Like anytime I can I'm I'm giving either a sandwich or granola bar money or whatever I have, you know.
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But I never felt that way.
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The way that I felt when this man looked into my eyes and when he smiled, it was like I'm here.
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So weird anyways.
00:09:13 Medium Natashia Mack
OK, back to the point of this episode.
00:09:15 Medium Natashia Mack
So my journey with it so yeah.
00:09:23 Medium Natashia Mack
After all that, OK, let me think, you know, ended up being a Teen Mom.
00:09:32 Medium Natashia Mack
Ended up having more children getting married. All that stuff, OK.
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And then.
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Again, I never really went back to.
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Like connecting to a higher power I never like.
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Had that.
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It it just wasn't in my awareness that like there's something bigger than us, you know, like it was kind of there, but not I.
00:10:01 Medium Natashia Mack
I wasn't actively.
00:10:06 Medium Natashia Mack
Working on my relationship with God or anything like that. I really did leave, you know, religion behind.
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Again, had experiences here and there.
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Had experiences.
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Um spirit with intuition, with, you know, my deep empathy and highly sensitivity and things like that for sure.
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Um.
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But yeah, that was about it.
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Then you know I turned.
00:10:36 Medium Natashia Mack
I had my fourth child and that's what initiated me into my spiritual awakening.
00:10:43 Medium Natashia Mack
That's honestly how it all started.
00:10:46 Medium Natashia Mack
It actually looking back now, it definitely started when I was pregnant with her. But yeah, after I gave birth to her.
00:10:53 Medium Natashia Mack
Um, that's when my, you know, intuition started heightening. My highly sensitivity was heightening.
00:11:03 Medium Natashia Mack
I don't know how I could possibly get, you know, more sensitive, but I I definitely got more sensitive.
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And.
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Anyways, so just.
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That's just where it all started, you know.
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Then from there I.
00:11:23 Medium Natashia Mack
I started getting into.
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I just started getting curious.
00:11:29 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, that's the word, right?
00:11:31 Medium Natashia Mack
You kind of start to awaken and see things from a higher perspective, and then you you're starting to get curious and you're starting to become more open and you're starting to like.
00:11:43 Medium Natashia Mack
Read about it. You're starting to hear about it.
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Watching YouTube.
00:11:47 Medium Natashia Mack
You know, you're just you're kind of looking for people who may be on a similar path.
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That sort of thing. So.
00:11:56 Medium Natashia Mack
I started my journey with mediumship because that's what was really calling to me, and that felt like okay. There's something here for me, right? Like I.
00:12:09 Medium Natashia Mack
I started practicing.
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And doing readings you know, through word of mouth and then that's how my whole business started was like that.
00:12:19 Medium Natashia Mack
And then so from there.
00:12:22 Medium Natashia Mack
Let me just process this by saying.
00:12:27 Medium Natashia Mack
I am not saying that any of this is bad.
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Or evil or wrong.
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Or anything like that.
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I don't have that kind of opinion or judgment on these things.
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I when I'm telling you about my journey, that's what it is.
00:12:47 Medium Natashia Mack
My journey, my experience and.
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Over time, realizing that's not for me anymore.
00:12:58 Medium Natashia Mack
That's not for me anymore.
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That doesn't feel aligned for me anymore.
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That no longer gives me like that no longer feels like.
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It's.
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What's the word like? It no longer feels like.
00:13:20 Medium Natashia Mack
It's calling to me, you know, and. And it was such an organic process.
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Of things just kind of falling away.
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It wasn't even this, like, drastic.
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You know, I'm getting rid of it all and I'm burning it all and everything is bad.
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Is evil, blah blah.
00:13:41 Medium Natashia Mack
No, like that was not my experience.
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And again, I'm not saying any of that is evil or bad or whatever.
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So I.
00:13:50 Medium Natashia Mack
I really needed to preface that because.
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That gives me anxiety.
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I don't want people to think that I'm judging them 'cause I'm not.
00:14:02 Medium Natashia Mack
Literally not.
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I have so much peace.
00:14:07 Medium Natashia Mack
In my heart right now, I cannot be bothered.
00:14:10 Medium Natashia Mack
Everyone's on their own journey and they're having their own experience and things are going to happen for them. The way that they're meant to, OK.
00:14:19 Medium Natashia Mack
That's my big giant annoying preface, OK?
00:14:25 Medium Natashia Mack
I went from.
00:14:28 Medium Natashia Mack
Being more of like a grounded down to Earth medium.
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2.
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Getting into.
00:14:39 Medium Natashia Mack
Like galactic being not getting into them, you know what I mean.
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Starting to connect.
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With.
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And communicate with like galactic beings and you know aliens and and yeah, those are just some examples. I'm sure there's more. I yeah and.
00:15:02 Medium Natashia Mack
I, you know, got super into buying a bunch of crystals and Oh my God, I probably have like 50 decks of Oracle cards.
00:15:12 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm not even kidding.
00:15:13 Medium Natashia Mack
I have an entire box of them again.
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Have my.
00:15:17 Medium Natashia Mack
I still use Oracle cards.
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I'm just using them in a different way now.
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But you're going to see like what I'm talking about when I get there.
00:15:26 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm I'm just kind of on the spot trying to think of.
00:15:34 Medium Natashia Mack
You know the things that kind of.
00:15:38 Medium Natashia Mack
That I'm that I'm no longer doing basically.
00:15:46 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah. Anyways I.
00:15:48 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh, I was doing a lot in the Akashic records as well.
00:15:52 Medium Natashia Mack
Again, don't think those things are bad or evil.
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They're just, I don't know.
00:15:58 Medium Natashia Mack
So weird.
00:15:59 Medium Natashia Mack
I I definitely have these beliefs that like, not these beliefs, but.
00:16:04 Medium Natashia Mack
I remember being part of, like, the spiritual community at the time who were all kind of on similar wavelengths, and it's like we're all.
00:16:14 Medium Natashia Mack
Not wanting to be on planet Earth and we we thought that were supposed to be somewhere else.
00:16:22 Medium Natashia Mack
You know, and there was always this feeling of like, I'm on a mission and I've got to do these things in the astral realm to.
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To.
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I don't know to become more of my higher self into.
00:16:40
Umm.
00:16:42 Medium Natashia Mack
I don't even know.
00:16:43 Medium Natashia Mack
It's so far from where I am right?
00:16:45 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm like trying to think, but there's just always this feeling of like, anyway. But here, like, this isn't home like.
00:16:55 Medium Natashia Mack
So connected to these like other planets and star systems and.
00:17:02 Medium Natashia Mack
Beings you know and and just like being him. And it's so boring.
00:17:08 Medium Natashia Mack
And it was just always this feeling of I need more. I need more.
00:17:13 Medium Natashia Mack
Not enoughness.
00:17:14 Medium Natashia Mack
I need.
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I need to be more.
00:17:17 Medium Natashia Mack
I need to have more like it was just this weird.
00:17:21 Medium Natashia Mack
Hunger, constant hunger that you could not tame.
00:17:27 Medium Natashia Mack
Didn't matter how much knowledge you ate, how much you meditated, how much you, how many cards crystals you had.
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Whatever it was, never.
00:17:43 Medium Natashia Mack
There was just always this underlying hunger and ungroundedness, you know.
00:17:50 Medium Natashia Mack
For me, personally and.
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Then you know the.
00:17:59 Medium Natashia Mack
The thing happened.
00:18:01 Medium Natashia Mack
Big thing.
00:18:02 Medium Natashia Mack
If you're an OG around here, you.
00:18:03 Medium Natashia Mack
What the big thing was?
00:18:05 Medium Natashia Mack
If you're not well, I'm gonna slightly get into it.
00:18:08 Medium Natashia Mack
But not not like fully.
00:18:12 Medium Natashia Mack
Think it?
00:18:13 Medium Natashia Mack
Again, I might do this in layers just to like take it easy on myself so.
00:18:20 Medium Natashia Mack
Basically the downfall of like.
00:18:25 Medium Natashia Mack
The spiritual community I was a part of.
00:18:30 Medium Natashia Mack
It was the most like tower moment, you know, like the tower card for tarot. Like just falling apart. Chaos like.
00:18:38 Medium Natashia Mack
Death endings, you know.
00:18:43 Medium Natashia Mack
It's all burning down. That's what sort of happened.
00:18:46 Medium Natashia Mack
Like in the spiritual community.
00:18:49 Medium Natashia Mack
And there was a lot of people who turned to Jesus, which is great, great for them, absolutely.
00:18:59 Medium Natashia Mack
But in such?
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Extreme.
00:19:03 Medium Natashia Mack
It's like literally. Still, I'm like I've been.
00:19:07 Medium Natashia Mack
I still have PTSD. I'm not even kidding you.
00:19:10 Medium Natashia Mack
It was such a traumatic time.
00:19:15 Medium Natashia Mack
Like trauma times 1000.
00:19:20 Medium Natashia Mack
It was just.
00:19:21
It's.
00:19:22 Medium Natashia Mack
I don't want to over.
00:19:24 Medium Natashia Mack
Obviously there's worse things in life, but my whole world was crumbling it. It felt like.
00:19:32 Medium Natashia Mack
Like I don't know.
00:19:33 Medium Natashia Mack
I just wasn't well, you guys.
00:19:35 Medium Natashia Mack
I wasn't well in my mind when this happened.
00:19:38 Medium Natashia Mack
I literally had an existential crisis.
00:19:43 Medium Natashia Mack
Identity crisis. I was in crisis.
00:19:47 Medium Natashia Mack
It was not.
00:19:48 Medium Natashia Mack
I can laugh about it now, but it was not good and so many others were going through it too, like I literally had people coming to me seeking comfort for me.
00:19:57 Medium Natashia Mack
I was no better.
00:19:59 Medium Natashia Mack
I was in no better position, so I tried my best to hold space for people.
00:20:04
Umm.
00:20:06 Medium Natashia Mack
But again, like I was in the same boat.
00:20:11 Medium Natashia Mack
And I questioned everything like everything.
00:20:16 Medium Natashia Mack
My God, I questioned everything.
00:20:19 Medium Natashia Mack
And just was like, what is even real?
00:20:23 Medium Natashia Mack
Is even true?
00:20:24 Medium Natashia Mack
What is happening?
00:20:26 Medium Natashia Mack
What the?
00:20:27 Medium Natashia Mack
Like, where do I go from here?
00:20:29 Medium Natashia Mack
So I remember like literally getting on my knees and being like God.
00:20:33 Medium Natashia Mack
My life is in your hands.
00:20:37 Medium Natashia Mack
If anything, like if if I need to change anything.
00:20:43 Medium Natashia Mack
Like just?
00:20:45 Medium Natashia Mack
Just like guide me.
00:20:47 Medium Natashia Mack
I said do it gently, but like.
00:20:52 Medium Natashia Mack
I'm I'm.
00:20:53 Medium Natashia Mack
You know I.
00:20:54 Medium Natashia Mack
I told the creator that.
00:21:00 Medium Natashia Mack
I I was.
00:21:01 Medium Natashia Mack
Like if, if if things were not for me then then so be it. If there were things that were just not for me and no longer meant to be part of my path.
00:21:12 Medium Natashia Mack
How I'm here to be of service.
00:21:15 Medium Natashia Mack
Like then so be.
00:21:16 Medium Natashia Mack
Like, take care of it. You know, I just surrendered.
00:21:21 Medium Natashia Mack
And.
00:21:23 Medium Natashia Mack
That was probably the best thing I could have ever done.
00:21:30 Medium Natashia Mack
Umm, very slowly. Again, this is like been a freaking journey since like.
00:21:35 Medium Natashia Mack
2021 that's when it all happened.
00:21:39 Medium Natashia Mack
I just. It's just amazing the path I was taking on and also in 2021 is when I found out I had cancer.
00:21:49 Medium Natashia Mack
That so interesting.
00:21:53 Medium Natashia Mack
I truly feel like I've just been on this path of, like restoration. You know, being restored.
00:22:01 Medium Natashia Mack
And yeah.
00:22:03 Medium Natashia Mack
So just organically, I started to no longer desire to do some of the things that I was doing and I I kind of went, you know from 1 extreme to the other like so many people do, especially in times of crisis and fear. And you know you're on your.
00:22:24 Medium Natashia Mack
And like you're questioning everything. Whatever.
00:22:29 Medium Natashia Mack
I.
00:22:31 Medium Natashia Mack
For a while I was like, I just want to feel as normal as possible. And so I started.
00:22:38 Medium Natashia Mack
Kind of shifted in my business and you know, it was more a.
00:22:44 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah. I just.
00:22:45 Medium Natashia Mack
I took out all of the Super spiritual stuff and I just was like, let's just start down here, over here, over here, far away from that because I don't know what's.
00:22:58
Umm.
00:23:02 Medium Natashia Mack
I know that I was afraid of a lot of the people who went to extreme religion, like who turned extreme Christian. I was like, so afraid that people were gonna think I was evil.
00:23:15 Medium Natashia Mack
I was so afraid of what people thought like.
00:23:19 Medium Natashia Mack
And you know, a lot of people did, like, see me as like.
00:23:23 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh, my God, she's doing.
00:23:24 Medium Natashia Mack
Know she's.
00:23:25 Medium Natashia Mack
She's doing the devil's work and I'm so much better than her because I am now extreme Christian and I'm denouncing everything and everyone started talking the same, like literally everyone started, like using the same biblical language.
00:23:40 Medium Natashia Mack
And just everyone was the same all of a.
00:23:43 Medium Natashia Mack
It was like.
00:23:45 Medium Natashia Mack
Again, not judging them.
00:23:49 Medium Natashia Mack
Just kind of sharing my experience and what I observed.
00:23:52 Medium Natashia Mack
Sending all of everyone love, like I know everyone's on their journey.
00:23:56 Medium Natashia Mack
Not easy out there for anyone.
00:23:58 Medium Natashia Mack
I have so much compassion for everyone because I know everyone was just trying to survive the best they can and.
00:24:07 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, I truly wish everyone.
00:24:09 Medium Natashia Mack
Like from the bottom of my heart anyways.
00:24:14 Medium Natashia Mack
Where was I going with all that?
00:24:19 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah. So I I just decided, OK, I'm gonna, you know, still do my coaching and still.
00:24:27 Medium Natashia Mack
Do sessions, but it's like I watered everything down as much as possible to make it seem more innocent and safer and.
00:24:38 Medium Natashia Mack
Like I was just in a wild like fear mode, you know?
00:24:44 Medium Natashia Mack
So yeah, and then but from.
00:24:47 Medium Natashia Mack
I was able to.
00:24:51 Medium Natashia Mack
Focus more on my nervous system and grounding more.
00:24:58 Medium Natashia Mack
Connecting more with God versus all these other beings.
00:25:05 Medium Natashia Mack
You know, it's like I was like, OK.
00:25:08 Medium Natashia Mack
Clear out the clutter.
00:25:09 Medium Natashia Mack
What it?
00:25:10 Medium Natashia Mack
Everything felt so cluttered about.
00:25:14 Medium Natashia Mack
The spirituality that I had at that time.
00:25:19 Medium Natashia Mack
Very.
00:25:20 Medium Natashia Mack
And again, remember, I was saying like nothing was ever enough.
00:25:23 Medium Natashia Mack
Always needed more.
00:25:26 Medium Natashia Mack
There's always so many steps to.
00:25:28 Medium Natashia Mack
There's always so many like hoops to jump through, there's always like.
00:25:34 Medium Natashia Mack
I don't know just these layers and levels and it was all so much and so overwhelming and that's why I had to just like, OK.
00:25:45 Medium Natashia Mack
Start from the nitty gritty like.
00:25:49 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, it's like I started over, like clean slate. And I'm like, I really just started going directly to God instead.
00:25:58 Medium Natashia Mack
You know whether you're using the word God, you know, as you can tell. Like, I interchange between God and the Creator.
00:26:06 Medium Natashia Mack
But that's like who I was going to.
00:26:08 Medium Natashia Mack
I was going straight to the source versus, you know, through all these other beings.
00:26:15
I.
00:26:17 Medium Natashia Mack
And you know something that I prayed for, which pro was always part of my spiritual journey? Like you like prayer does not.
00:26:28 Medium Natashia Mack
It's not exclusive to religion, you know, and that's something that I've talked about many times before, like, like, I pray literally every day. Like I talk to God every day.
00:26:41 Medium Natashia Mack
So yeah, anyways I just went straight to the store.
00:26:44 Medium Natashia Mack
To the creator and.
00:26:48 Medium Natashia Mack
Just allowed God to like work through me in my life and, you know, allow me to be of service.
00:26:59 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, I just like went straight to the.
00:27:02 Medium Natashia Mack
And then.
00:27:03 Medium Natashia Mack
It's like everything just felt more simplified. Like OK, I don't need.
00:27:11 Medium Natashia Mack
To have all of that knowledge and wisdom, I don't need to have that constant.
00:27:17 Medium Natashia Mack
Hunger and thirst for.
00:27:21 Medium Natashia Mack
Like just to know everything about everything and all these different beings and all these, like different.
00:27:26 Medium Natashia Mack
Things and modalities and.
00:27:29 Medium Natashia Mack
It's like it was just all so much and so overwhelming, and I craved peace.
00:27:35 Medium Natashia Mack
I craved.
00:27:37 Medium Natashia Mack
I craved comfort and I craved more stability.
00:27:42 Medium Natashia Mack
And honestly, just going straight to the source is what?
00:27:47 Medium Natashia Mack
Provided.
00:27:49 Medium Natashia Mack
Me or is what provided that for me?
00:27:52 Medium Natashia Mack
Is that how I say that? Yeah.
00:27:57 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, and like.
00:27:59 Medium Natashia Mack
You know, over time I rekindled my relationship with mediumship and I like, made it clear to God I was like if.
00:28:09 Medium Natashia Mack
Mediumship is not for me like make it known.
00:28:15 Medium Natashia Mack
But he never made that known.
00:28:17 Medium Natashia Mack
Was always.
00:28:20 Medium Natashia Mack
This.
00:28:22
Umm.
00:28:23 Medium Natashia Mack
Like I just I feel like.
00:28:26 Medium Natashia Mack
Once I simplified my spirituality and my connection to God and just focused on my relationship with him.
00:28:37 Medium Natashia Mack
Everything kind of balanced out in my life.
00:28:40
And I felt.
00:28:43 Medium Natashia Mack
Like I had even simplified mediumship and it just made sense to me. And you know, I I really feel like I developed a whole new level of discernment.
00:28:57 Medium Natashia Mack
And you know, I was able to just discern better for myself with so many things, especially like spiritually.
00:29:06 Medium Natashia Mack
And things just became clear to me.
00:29:09 Medium Natashia Mack
And mediumship was one of those things that were clear to.
00:29:13 Medium Natashia Mack
It was clear to me that I am being of service and I am a bridge, a messenger for the heavenly realm and.
00:29:25 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah. So you know, that's why mediumship has always.
00:29:30 Medium Natashia Mack
No matter what, even with even if everything else fell away, you know.
00:29:35 Medium Natashia Mack
So that just felt really important to message like I've really.
00:29:43 Medium Natashia Mack
Really. What's the word?
00:29:47 Medium Natashia Mack
Like a mediumship has just become.
00:29:50 Medium Natashia Mack
Part of my anchor.
00:29:54 Medium Natashia Mack
Spiritually, you know I.
00:29:56 Medium Natashia Mack
Don't know if that makes sense.
00:29:59 Medium Natashia Mack
Home base I feel like is the better word here.
00:30:02 Medium Natashia Mack
Mediumship feels like a home base.
00:30:05 Medium Natashia Mack
And it's something I know deep in my soul.
00:30:09 Medium Natashia Mack
Is part of my purpose here in.
00:30:12 Medium Natashia Mack
It's how I'm here to be of service and I've just received so much evidence, so much evidence that.
00:30:24 Medium Natashia Mack
This is not the devil's work. You know what I mean?
00:30:28 Medium Natashia Mack
Oh, man. Like there's just no denying it.
00:30:31 Medium Natashia Mack
Just like there's no denying that, like like my love for God.
00:30:38 Medium Natashia Mack
And actually on that note.
00:30:41 Medium Natashia Mack
So.
00:30:44 Medium Natashia Mack
The other.
00:30:48 Medium Natashia Mack
Thing that kind of started to flourish.
00:30:53 Medium Natashia Mack
Which actually started before that whole like downfall of, you know, the spiritual community and whatever.
00:31:01 Medium Natashia Mack
Was.
00:31:03 Medium Natashia Mack
My relationship with Jesus like that has always been a constant, and it's something I'm not ashamed of.
00:31:12 Medium Natashia Mack
Talked about it on here a few times.
00:31:16 Medium Natashia Mack
My love for Jesus and.
00:31:19 Medium Natashia Mack
I.
00:31:20 Medium Natashia Mack
For so long was like.
00:31:23 Medium Natashia Mack
I didn't know what it.
00:31:26 Medium Natashia Mack
I didn't know how to talk about.
00:31:28 Medium Natashia Mack
I was like, afraid to mention it because, well, I'm not super Christian.
00:31:34 Medium Natashia Mack
But then also I'm not.
00:31:37 Medium Natashia Mack
Witchy. I'm not.
00:31:40 Medium Natashia Mack
Like I I don't resonate with that. I don't resonate with.
00:31:45 Medium Natashia Mack
A lot of things.
00:31:49 Medium Natashia Mack
You know, spiritually, I mean, I'm a very spiritual person and also.
00:31:58 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, I'm a very spiritual person, but.
00:32:01 Medium Natashia Mack
I don't know I.
00:32:02 Medium Natashia Mack
I don't know where I fit.
00:32:06 Medium Natashia Mack
So I'm just kind of.
00:32:11 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, I am who I am and I am where I am.
00:32:14 Medium Natashia Mack
And that's OK.
00:32:17 Medium Natashia Mack
I I just wanna focus on my own personal relationship with God and with Jesus.
00:32:26 Medium Natashia Mack
And with spirit and.
00:32:29 Medium Natashia Mack
It's honestly just been so.
00:32:33 Medium Natashia Mack
Healing.
00:32:35 Medium Natashia Mack
And so wholesome.
00:32:37 Medium Natashia Mack
And I no longer have that constant hunger and thirst.
00:32:43 Medium Natashia Mack
That has been the biggest thing.
00:32:44 Medium Natashia Mack
Just.
00:32:45 Medium Natashia Mack
And I also am no longer on that hamster wheel of healing, right.
00:32:49 Medium Natashia Mack
Was like another big thing.
00:32:52 Medium Natashia Mack
You have to heal this and you have to heal that and you have to, you know, do all these steps so you can heal more. And there's just, there's always this.
00:33:05 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, need and just constant going, going, going.
00:33:12 Medium Natashia Mack
So that all went away like.
00:33:14 Medium Natashia Mack
I remember even being guided to stop listening to self help books because that was contributing to that hamster wheel of always healing, always needing more, always needing to know more and do more.
00:33:29 Medium Natashia Mack
I am just so much more at peace and so much more at ease.
00:33:34 Medium Natashia Mack
With this like with my.
00:33:39 Medium Natashia Mack
My current.
00:33:42 Medium Natashia Mack
Spirituality, I guess you'd.
00:33:43 Medium Natashia Mack
And this space that I'm in now.
00:33:48 Medium Natashia Mack
With my relationship to my higher power, that's that's basically it.
00:33:54 Medium Natashia Mack
Guys, obviously there's so much more.
00:34:00 Medium Natashia Mack
And.
00:34:02 Medium Natashia Mack
I'd love to.
00:34:05 Medium Natashia Mack
Continue this conversation.
00:34:08 Medium Natashia Mack
But right now it kind of feels like that's that's what wanted to come through for this time.
00:34:15 Medium Natashia Mack
And if you, you know, if there's anything that I shared that you are curious about or want to know more of.
00:34:24 Medium Natashia Mack
Definitely ask.
00:34:26 Medium Natashia Mack
Like, do not hesitate to ask.
00:34:28 Medium Natashia Mack
Because when you ask, it invites me to share more. And those invitations truly spark something inside of me and encourages me to share. So.
00:34:43 Medium Natashia Mack
Love that a lot.
00:34:46 Medium Natashia Mack
So yeah, I feel like that's.
00:34:48 Medium Natashia Mack
Perfect.
00:34:50 Medium Natashia Mack
Full you know, Episode 1 of this series.
00:34:54 Medium Natashia Mack
And I look forward to sharing more.
00:34:58 Medium Natashia Mack
And I really hope that.
00:35:00 Medium Natashia Mack
Don't.
00:35:01 Medium Natashia Mack
Maybe this sparked something inside of you and.
00:35:07
Um.
00:35:09 Medium Natashia Mack
Yeah, I hope.
00:35:11 Medium Natashia Mack
I hope that it's supportive in some way so.
00:35:15 Medium Natashia Mack
That is all until next time.
00:35:19 Medium Natashia Mack
I'll talk to you guys later.
The Hot Mess Medium Show Ep. 11 - Life Realignment and Why You Should Let Go Of Old Baggage
In this episode I share how I & so many others are going through a life “realignment” right now, what that is, how to recognize if you are experiencing one too (or if one is trying to happen for you) and how to navigate it all.
I also talk about:
-The benefits of letting go (when the universe says to)
-How clearing out old sh*t in your home actually clears up old/stagnant energy
-Your inner protector (& how it could be holding you back without you even realizing it?)
-My experience with saying YES to something that didn't make sense at the time, but now it makes the most sense ever (& what I learned from it all)
-& some channeled messages from Spirit
For upcoming events, private readings & more info on how you can have your questions answered in the podcast, go to: www.mediumnatashiamack.com
Follow me on Instagram: @mediumnatashiamack
Transcription:
00:00:00 Natashia Mack
Hey, guys. Welcome back.
00:00:03 Natashia Mack
For today's episode, I want to talk a little bit about this realignment that I've been going through, and I feel like there's going to be a lot of supportive messages connected to that for me to share with you today that are going to be supportive for you also.
00:00:25 Natashia Mack
Seems to be a theme since I since I started doing this work, I kind of.
00:00:30 Natashia Mack
Go through things and then I talk about it and it seems to just really resonate with my listeners, you know.
00:00:41 Natashia Mack
So lately I've been going through a bit of a realignment and.
00:00:49 Natashia Mack
This one feels different.
00:00:52 Natashia Mack
Well, first, what do I mean when I say realignment?
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Basically.
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My mind, body, spirit, life, business, like all of the things.
00:01:09 Natashia Mack
Changing.
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Because there's just certain things that.
00:01:16 Natashia Mack
Were no longer working or you know, there's certain difficult decisions that I had to make, for example.
00:01:24 Natashia Mack
Umm, I had to close down my aesthetics business.
00:01:28 Natashia Mack
I can't remember if I mentioned that on.
00:01:32 Natashia Mack
A previous episode or not, but either way I had to close down my aesthetics business. Umm.
00:01:38 Natashia Mack
Which really sucked to do like I just started it in August.
00:01:42 Natashia Mack
Something that I really, truly enjoy doing.
00:01:46 Natashia Mack
Love my clients so much like I was looking back on old.
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Assignments from when I finished high school or when I was finishing high school and it set on there how my plans were to go to aesthetic school.
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And that was like, yeah, that was like, one of the things I really wanted to do.
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Was obviously way before I realized I was a psychic medium.
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Anyway, so it's it's something that.
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Truly.
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Came to be.
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In such.
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Divinely orchestrated way you know the fact that I was able to train to become an aesthetician.
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And and then go out on my own and do my own thing with cloudwomen aesthetics.
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It just really is something that I know deep in my soul was meant to happen, even if it was for a short amount of time.
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It wasn't all for nothing at all. Like I learned so much. I gained so much experience dealing with.
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People in a new way and getting to connect with new people and have, you know, vulnerable, intimate conversations with people, hold space for people. You know. I had started my business.
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Online. Actually, no, that's.
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Sorry, I did start my my business like doing readings in person.
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Through word of mouth, you know everything did start in person and eventually I started my online business and then everything was online.
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You know, I would do an in person thing here and there, but not not very much so.
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I got to the point where everything was online and I was always stuck at home and, you know, wearing my trackpants everyday and started to lack motivation started to get way too comfortable.
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Honestly started to get kind of depressed and lethargic and things like that, which to me is a sign that something had to change.
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And.
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I really feel spirit putting a pin in that, as I say that because I think it's so important for us to be mindful of how we feel.
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In certain environments, in certain relationships or in certain situations.
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Notice how.
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Your energy reacts and responds to these things.
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And you know, places and people.
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Umm, because your body does speak to you, your body will.
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Let you know if something is for you or not for you, or if something needs to shift and evolve, or you need to let something go or you need to start incorporating something else.
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Know. So for me like my.
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Mind, body and spirit were telling me that something had to change. And what happened was I saw an ad.
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You know, for this job to be trained as an esthetician and.
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It just like so you know, going back to what I was saying, noticing your energy and how it responds and reacts. When I saw this ad, my energy, my everything was so.
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Magnetized to this ad. It was just this craziest.
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This feeling of being.
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Just so zoomed in.
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To this ad and not to me, was a sure.
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This was like a 100% holy ******* **** you have to do this, even if it doesn't make any sense at all, because you're a medium.
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You're. You're a psychic medium and you already have a business and like nothing about this makes sense, you know.
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Looking back now, I'm like wow did.
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Whatever makes.
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You know, it pushed me out of my comfort zone like you would not believe.
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Um, I also became just so much more comfortable dealing with people and right because when you're secluded, like how you're not really gaining opportunities to.
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Interact with other people in the same way, right?
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Like yes, I was dealing with people online, but not a lot of like, real life situations.
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Outside of that, where I could practice?
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Umm.
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Having you know, let's say, uncomfortable conversations that is going to exercise my nervous systems response.
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Like yes again, those things happen online, but I don't know. There's just something different about.
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Doing these things in person, you know, interacting with individuals in person and having hard conversations in person and all that stuff, so.
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Not only that, of course, like I found a creative outlet in this work and.
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Just I don't.
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There's just so much good that came of it.
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It got me out of the house. It got me.
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To care again.
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I don't know if.
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I don't know if I'm saying that right.
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'Cause, obviously.
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I I'm someone who cares so much, you know, especially as a highly sensitive person.
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I just mean it.
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It brought part of me back to life, is what I'm was what I think I'm trying to say.
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Didn't even know this episode was going in this direction, but apparently this needs to come through.
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Anyways.
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So.
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Because of the recent surgery I had in my neck.
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It caused a shoulder injury.
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And.
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I don't know yet if it's gonna be permanent or not.
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It could take like up to a year to heal, or it could be something that I'm gonna live with forever.
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But between that?
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And my health me wanting to make my health a priority.
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And also wanting to make my ministry a priority.
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All signs were pointing to me taking a step back from the aesthetics.
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So I can take care of my body.
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And make that a priority and try to heal. You know, as much as I can.
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Yeah, 'cause. I know physically. I just won't be able to do.
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Are physically.
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I don't think people realize how physically demanding those services are.
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And yeah, basically my shoulder. My right shoulder would not be able.
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To handle.
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So that was a really difficult thing that I had to come to terms with.
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What's crazy about it is that the whole time.
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This was like on my mind and you know, I was feeling it in my God that this is what was gonna happen, even though I just, I still wasn't sure and I was going back and forth that whole entire time.
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I was being shown so many signs and synchronicities like you wouldn't believe like things that were just.
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Out of this world.
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I just.
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I hadn't experienced those types of, you know, signs and synchronicities in such a long time that.
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It was just so amazing to experience it again and it was amazing to like witness.
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All this divine support coming in and showing me that, hey, you're going to be taken care of. Like. Yes, it's hard to let this go, but it's going to make space for what is meant for you at this time in the direction that you're meant to go in.
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And your everything is going to be OK.
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All of a sudden I had so many, you know, brides reaching out to me.
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I have.
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12 weddings for 2025 so far, and we're only in January.
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Like everyone was messaging me like, you know, to book their wedding. And I was like, this is amazing.
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I barely advertised at all. In case you didn't know, I'm a wedding officiant as well.
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Like I'm a reverend.
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And so yeah.
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Had so many people reach out for wedding.
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And I, you know, had people reaching out for readings. And I was like, OK.
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These are things I can.
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Like luckily, like. Thank God I wear so many hats.
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And I.
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So many, you know, things that I I I do, you know, like thank God I wasn't.
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Dependent on.
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You know, I was a medium.
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Um. And so I was able to just kind of reroute.
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That's what I felt like. I was rerouting, realigning, right.
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Like, OK, This is the direction that I'm going in.
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Picking this back up.
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I'm going all in on this.
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This is something that doesn't require my shoulder, you know.
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So yeah, anyways.
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I started receiving inspiration again for classes and workshops that I'm going to be putting on. I, you know, received messages that.
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Like of what this year is going to be about for me and and again it's about my ministry. It's about being of service.
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Using, you know my gifts and I'm going to be teaching and all that stuff so anyways.
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There's that.
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So yeah, that's like part of this.
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Realignment that's taking place.
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You know, we we let things.
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But then, and it's uncomfortable when you let things go, right?
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Is uncomfortable.
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There's unknowns and what ifs and.
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There's no guarantees and then.
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But then it.
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You let it go and then immediately.
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There's this space.
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And and the space is for a purpose.
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Right, that space is what allows the new to come in, and sometimes we hold.
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So freaking tight to to things because we think, Oh no, this is the only thing and like.
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I don't know what I'm going to do and I have to figure this out and oh, no, like this can't happen.
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I have to hurry up and.
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Yeah. Figure this out all on my own. But no, like the truth is, there is a plan.
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There was already a plan for me and there's already a plan for you.
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There's already a plan for that space that.
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You're being asked to create. There's already a plan for it.
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There's already something put in place to fill that space.
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But it cannot be filled until you release what no longer serves you.
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Cannot be filled until.
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You allow that space to exist.
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And even that.
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Oh my God, that in between time from.
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You know where you were to where you're going.
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Is so uncomfortable too and.
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And sometimes within that space, we want to go back to old habits and behaviors and patterns and.
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So that's you gotta watch out for that.
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You know, there's there's fear and anxiety that's going to take over and and might try to.
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Rewrote you prematurely.
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Backwards, like you know what I mean, which is not where you're going.
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That's not where you're going.
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I love that this sort of organically turned into.
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Oh.
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You know the messages are.
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Clearly I didn't know it was going to go in this direction, but I love this so much.
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So I want to see what else is trying to come through here.
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OK, funny I was hearing this message.
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This morning, as I was getting ready. So that tells me that it wasn't just for me, it's also for you.
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For us.
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And so yeah.
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I'm going to share it with you.
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So what I was hearing was.
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Your dream life is going to cost you.
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Your current life, OK, so.
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Your dream life, your dream destination.
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You want to be.
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That is going to require.
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New habits.
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Right.
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What I'm hearing is like more.
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Life giving habits more sustainable habits.
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Not just that, but.
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I'm seeing this vision of.
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Someone you know, they've packed their bags.
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They have all their luggage around them.
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Ready to go?
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On this like dream destination. OK. They're like vacation. Whatever. Right. They're about to go.
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A plane.
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To get there, but.
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They are carrying so much with them.
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That they don't even.
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For example, let's say you're going to Bali, but you've packed a snowsuit.
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That's kind of the vibe that I'm getting from this.
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Obviously you do not need a snowsuit in Bali, or at least I would hope you would never need a snowsuit in Bali.
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Ah.
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By the way, side note, dream.
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That would be incredible to go there anyways, 'cause I'm currently.
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Sitting in my truck with a snowstorm happening all around me because it's so freaking cold here in crazy weather. And that is my life right now.
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Someday, someday I will go to Bali anyways.
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I digress. So.
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Yeah, clearly.
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All of that cannot go with them.
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You know their.
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It's just not gonna work.
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It exceeds the limit. Is what I'm hearing and it's not sustainable.
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Not like it's not gonna.
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You can't bring all that with you.
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And so it's like we're in a period of being asked to go through our luggage.
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What's so ******* crazy about this?
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Not even kidding the entire weekend.
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My Friday night and my entire Saturday and a bit of my Sunday.
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Was spent going through.
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My closet going through all the bags like cleaning out my room from top to bottom of **** I was holding onto.
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For years, like I literally cleared receipts from 20/21.
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There was unopened mail.
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Call.
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From that time as well, like I had.
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It's like I didn't clear out my work bag from from four years ago.
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Not even kidding you.
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I promise I'm not a hoarder.
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I promise I'm not.
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It's just stuff that.
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I just kept putting off from going through, right?
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Papers like I just accumulated.
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Papers and and documents and just stuff. And anyways.
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I felt this strong urge to go through all of that and it's so crazy how, as I was going through it, I was.
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Like remembering that version of me.
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The version of me that actually had anxiety and fears around opening the mail and answering the phone and having those conversations with people.
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Nervous system just was not.
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In a position to.
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Be able to handle any of those big scary adultery.
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Things that required a lot of responsibility and I know I realize I'm saying this as a.
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Grown *** woman with four kids.
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And I am a responsible adult. But I just had these interesting.
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Fears and anxieties around some of those things.
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And so going through all this stuff, I was like, wow, you know, noticing some shame coming up, some guilt coming up and.
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Um.
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In that moment, I just kind of sent love to that version of myself and also at the same time acknowledged how far I've come and how it's like, no big deal. Now to do those things.
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It feels so.
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It feels so good that I could.
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Handle those things now my nervous system can handle those things now, which is like, yes, growth. But I had to do a whole lot.
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You know, including going to work at a spa to be able to.
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Exercise my nervous system to the point that it is now.
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Which is really.
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I love this like full circle moment but anyways.
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It felt so good to go through all that **** and to get rid of all of that stuff, like the relief I felt in my body, the lightness and the energy in my room again acknowledging.
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You know how.
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My environment helped my body feel. It literally felt lighter.
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Felt relief.
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Releasing all of that.
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And.
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I swear it's to the point now where when I'm feeling called to clear **** out or to clean up, to declutter. Whatever, to get rid of stuff. I get excited because I'm like, oh, I wonder what I'm being called to Createspace for.
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And obviously with the work that I'm doing and where I want to go and how I envision my life and you know, by the end of this year.
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Or even next year. Whatever the next five years, I can't be taking all that **** that I just got rid of with me.
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Cannot come with me.
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It it.
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Can't because that version of myself that I'm walking into.
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She she's not carrying that around.
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Doesn't have that with her.
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You know she's.
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She has her filing cabinet organized like she's got her. You know, she as soon as she gets mail, she opens it and she looks at it with confidence.
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Pays her bills on time. Like all these things.
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That I see for myself that I know is available to me and that I know I'm innately worthy of, and so are you.
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You know, she handles things differently.
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So.
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Yeah, I had to, like clear out that baggage literally.
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Metaphorically.
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So I feel like this is an invitation for you to do.
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Something similar, right?
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I feel like we're all going through some sort of.
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We're all being asked to take some sort of action forward, you know, taking some steps forward into new habits, new routines.
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More sustainability.
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Things that are going to be so much more supportive for you that helps you get to your dream destination, whatever that is.
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And I'm not talking like unrealistic dream destination.
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You know, going back to me saying, like, by the end of this year, you know, I'm gonna be realistic about.
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Like.
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Version of myself. I wanna be by the end of the year.
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And you can be too like it.
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It could actually be so simple like like I said, I wanna be able to open my mail as soon as I get it and not put it off.
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Wanna respond to messages with more ease and less anxiety?
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And.
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You know, be more mindful of, of how my avoidance creeps in.
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And how that like inner protector comes in to protect.
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For things that I don't need protection from, you know, of course I can.
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Giggle about that now. But there was a time where you know.
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Basic things felt extremely scary to me.
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Oh, there's my vehicle.
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So.
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Yeah, just like, be real with yourself. Don't create.
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These unreal old plates upon yourself, these unrealistic expectations, right? Because those just cause us to retract those just cause us to, like, say, never mind.
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Scary.
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You might have an inner protector.
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Who comes in is like, oh, that's scary. That's uncomfortable.
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Not do that.
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Let's divert our attention over here.
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Let's let's go back to old old patterns and habits to to protect ourselves from new ones.
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The new ones are so scary.
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Like you know, it's good to notice.
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Those internal dialogues and those inner parts of ourselves who kind of come in.
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To take over.
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Right, yeah.
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So going back to my story of realignment.
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Another thing that I did yesterday, I actually upgraded my room, my office, my office space.
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It looks so good now. If you wanna look at it, I actually posted photos of it on my Instagram and on my Facebook.
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You have to go and have a look.
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So pretty and it feels so good.
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Just missing.
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A single chair like I need to add another chair because sometimes I have people come to see me in person.
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Like sorry, sometimes I have more than one person.
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Coming in like today, for example, I had a mother and a daughter come to see me in person. So it was so nice having you know them in my new space and it just felt so good. The energy felt really, really good.
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You know, once I got all the aesthetic stuff out of there, it like really created the space for my dream space.
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Which was really, really cool.
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And now I feel like, you know, having a space that I'm so proud of and so excited about, it's like.
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Opened me up to new opportunities and new ideas and and things like that.
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It's just such a powerful reflection of.
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How our environments affect us, right? And like the energy of our spaces so.
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That's another clue to me that I am on the right path and you know I'm. I'm getting realigned cause all these things that I've I've been experiencing lately, you know, after the changes.
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That I've been making and all of that, it's like.
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I'm just.
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Feeling so lit up again, I'm feeling so inspired again.
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Things are.
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There's so much more ease.
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Like yes, I may be about to go for.
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You know, radiation five days a week for six weeks for six.
00:27:38 Natashia Mack
Sorry and I have CT scans coming and I I'm you know, doing physio once a week and there's lots of real.
00:27:48 Natashia Mack
Life stuff happening.
00:27:52 Natashia Mack
Like even though there's all of that 'cause, that stuff doesn't go away.
00:27:57 Natashia Mack
Know you never reach this point of like everything's perfect.
00:28:02 Natashia Mack
'S great like.
00:28:04 Natashia Mack
There's no bad.
00:28:06 Natashia Mack
There's no more discomfort like that. Literally never comes.
00:28:11 Natashia Mack
And it's not supposed to, because we're, we're here to be humans and experience like real human things, right? And and discomfort, as a sign of of growth.
00:28:23 Natashia Mack
We're constantly growing and evolving and change is a constant like.
00:28:29 Natashia Mack
Yeah, anyways, blah blah blah. But.
00:28:34 Natashia Mack
Damn it. Now I lost my train of thought for you to go.
00:28:38 Natashia Mack
Yeah.
00:28:40 Natashia Mack
So despite all of that, I still know that I'm in alignment.
00:28:47 Natashia Mack
It's like I can carry both.
00:28:50 Natashia Mack
We can all carry.
00:28:51 Natashia Mack
There's, there's good and there's.
00:28:54 Natashia Mack
Like we live in a, you know, dualistic.
00:28:58 Natashia Mack
World, where there's always going to be both no matter what, but it's it's all about how you carry it and navigate it and support yourself through it, right? I.
00:29:11 Natashia Mack
Supporting yourself, mind, body and soul and doing what you can with what you have and what is in your control and what is in your power, and recognizing the difference between what is and what isn't.
00:29:26 Natashia Mack
I have found that the more than I surrender.
00:29:31 Natashia Mack
The more that I allow the Creator to support me.
00:29:37 Natashia Mack
And the more?
00:29:40 Natashia Mack
That I'm able to navigate life's challenges with more ease.
00:29:46 Natashia Mack
Like it's just a cause and effect.
00:29:48 Natashia Mack
That just is what it is.
00:29:51 Natashia Mack
I surrender.
00:29:53 Natashia Mack
And I let myself be supported. I let myself be guided.
00:29:59 Natashia Mack
I accept that and I receive that and things just.
00:30:05 Natashia Mack
Flow so much better.
00:30:07 Natashia Mack
And yes, I've experienced especially last year seasons of just not feeling connected.
00:30:15 Natashia Mack
You know, I I I did feel disconnected.
00:30:21 Natashia Mack
For a while, especially when I was, you know, going like really going through it with my surgeries and leading up to the surgeries and there was like all these things that happened and.
00:30:35 Natashia Mack
I don't know I.
00:30:38 Natashia Mack
You kind of just, like, go through those.
00:30:41 Natashia Mack
Times and then and then all of a sudden it's like it's time for a new season and things start to shift and change and.
00:30:50 Natashia Mack
I still feel like I have one foot.
00:30:54 Natashia Mack
In in old season, because it's not quite finished yet, but then at the same time I feel I have another foot in this new one that's like slow.
00:31:05 Natashia Mack
Starting to emerge and.
00:31:08 Natashia Mack
That's been really interesting, but I'm not over thinking it.
00:31:12 Natashia Mack
I'm not trying to figure it out.
00:31:16 Natashia Mack
I'm not trying to control it.
00:31:19 Natashia Mack
I've learned for me personally that it's best to just like.
00:31:23 Natashia Mack
I know this sounds really weird, but kind of like keep not keep myself out of it, but mind my own business sometimes with how I'm being led and how I'm being guided.
00:31:35 Natashia Mack
Yeah, sounds strange but.
00:31:39 Natashia Mack
I I've really just like given my life to the Creator and I I think I just put so much trust.
00:31:50 Natashia Mack
In my higher power.
00:31:53 Natashia Mack
That I know I can't be misled, and I know that it's all on purpose for purpose.
00:31:59 Natashia Mack
And obviously I still have a.
00:32:02 Natashia Mack
I still have an ego and I'm still going to like chime in every once in a while and have my off days and my bad days and.
00:32:10 Natashia Mack
Have days where?
00:32:13 Natashia Mack
I'm angry and upset and confused with why things are the way that they are, but ultimately I always come back to this like I always come back to this home base of.
00:32:25 Natashia Mack
OK. No, God got my back and I can trust and I.
00:32:31 Natashia Mack
I'm being called to surrender a little bit more and even if their situations where I'm like, why is this happening and?
00:32:41 Natashia Mack
You know I can't see the lessons in it, I just.
00:32:45 Natashia Mack
I always end up coming back to this home base and try to see things from a higher perspective, and if I can't, it means I'm still too in it and it's still too fresh.
00:32:55 Natashia Mack
And that's OK.
00:32:58 Natashia Mack
So yeah, I'm learning things on as.
00:33:05 Natashia Mack
Maybe serious, maybe as serious as we think they are.
00:33:10 Natashia Mack
Because.
00:33:11 Natashia Mack
I mean, life is a.
00:33:13 Natashia Mack
And we have a certain amount of time here and it can all just kind of everything can change in the blink of an eye.
00:33:23 Natashia Mack
One minute you.
00:33:24 Natashia Mack
Oh yeah, this is for sure it.
00:33:25 Natashia Mack
Is where I'm.
00:33:26 Natashia Mack
This is what's happening, but then like.
00:33:29 Natashia Mack
Things change like you could get rerouted at any moment, and I'm just learning to be so much more present and appreciative of exactly where I'm at, even if it's uncomfortable.
00:33:42 Natashia Mack
I'm kind of judging myself right now and getting a little insecure as I'm talking because I'm like, do I.
00:33:47 Natashia Mack
Like I know it all.
00:33:48 Natashia Mack
Oh my God. Are people going to think that I have it all figured out?
00:33:51 Natashia Mack
Really.
00:33:51 Natashia Mack
I promise you the total opposite. Actually I don't.
00:33:55 Natashia Mack
I don't have any of it figured out.
00:33:57 Natashia Mack
But I've like, come to accept that you.
00:34:00 Natashia Mack
Know what I mean?
00:34:01 Natashia Mack
I'm. I'm accepting it and which brings me peace.
00:34:05 Natashia Mack
Acceptance brings peace.
00:34:07 Natashia Mack
It's not my job to know it.
00:34:09 Natashia Mack
It's not my job to have it all figured out.
00:34:11 Natashia Mack
I wouldn't want to.
00:34:13 Natashia Mack
Oh my God, who has time for that?
00:34:16 Natashia Mack
Honestly, I am content with knowing the amount that I know and I'm kind of on a need to know basis.
00:34:26 Natashia Mack
With the creator and that feels really good.
00:34:30 Natashia Mack
You know, if something is meant for me, it'll find.
00:34:32 Natashia Mack
It'll come to me. However, it is meant to, and that has been working for me, so yeah.
00:34:39 Natashia Mack
So yeah basically.
00:34:43 Natashia Mack
The three alignment.
00:34:47 Natashia Mack
I'm liking it.
00:34:50 Natashia Mack
It's good.
00:34:51 Natashia Mack
It's good. I'm.
00:34:53 Natashia Mack
I'm excited for what's to come.
00:34:56 Natashia Mack
And.
00:34:58 Natashia Mack
Yeah, I kind of want to bring this back over to you like.
00:35:03 Natashia Mack
Are you noticing a call to action?
00:35:07 Natashia Mack
You know just intuitively or.
00:35:10 Natashia Mack
Maybe it's been coming up.
00:35:12 Natashia Mack
You know where.
00:35:14 Natashia Mack
You're you are hearing the same thing like.
00:35:19 Natashia Mack
Two to three times in a row.
00:35:23 Natashia Mack
Right. Just these, like, synchronicities keep popping up of the same thing over and over again.
00:35:29 Natashia Mack
It it.
00:35:29 Natashia Mack
If that's happening to you, just know that the universe is like, hey, like, pay attention.
00:35:36 Natashia Mack
There's something here for you.
00:35:40 Natashia Mack
You know that's how you can start listening to that.
00:35:44 Natashia Mack
Can start just by paying attention.
00:35:47 Natashia Mack
And noticing those patterns coming up those.
00:35:52 Natashia Mack
Signals the signs, the messages.
00:35:57 Natashia Mack
The universe is always speaking to you and.
00:36:02 Natashia Mack
You know the creator is always speaking to you and that's, you know, it's through your intuition.
00:36:09 Natashia Mack
That the creator speaks to you.
00:36:13 Natashia Mack
And those messages that come through those subtle nudges that come through are are for you to support you and guide you on your path.
00:36:22 Natashia Mack
So just know that if you get to a point where.
00:36:27 Natashia Mack
You're feeling really stuck and frustrated with where you're at.
00:36:34 Natashia Mack
Nine times out of 10.
00:36:37 Natashia Mack
You're.
00:36:38 Natashia Mack
You've already been receiving nudges you've already been receiving.
00:36:44 Natashia Mack
Guidance on on how to change that, but again, it's going to require a few things.
00:36:52 Natashia Mack
One for you to take a moment and think back at.
00:36:57 Natashia Mack
What are some of those nudges? I've already received that I haven't done.
00:37:01 Natashia Mack
Like what's been nagging at me that I haven't done that little niggling.
00:37:05 Natashia Mack
That I've been getting and I just haven't.
00:37:08 Natashia Mack
You know, maybe have been avoiding it or just putting it off or just haven't made time for.
00:37:13 Natashia Mack
Go back to that and then do that because that'll create an immediate shift in your energy. That right there will start moving some of those.
00:37:23 Natashia Mack
Obstacles that you feel are in front of you, so go back to that and then the other thing.
00:37:30 Natashia Mack
Imagine that you are about to go on a plane to your dream destination.
00:37:36 Natashia Mack
And you have all of this baggage, all these bags, and it's filled with stuff that you don't actually need.
00:37:43 Natashia Mack
It's no longer serving you.
00:37:46 Natashia Mack
You can't take it with you where you're going because it doesn't fit that life. It doesn't.
00:37:53 Natashia Mack
It they don't go together so.
00:37:59 Natashia Mack
It's time to like clear some of that out. Make space, make space.
00:38:05 Natashia Mack
Let go of the old. Maybe you have some actual bags like I did that have like receipts from 2021 in there.
00:38:13 Natashia Mack
Maybe there's just some old stuff that you're being called to get rid of.
00:38:22
Or or.
00:38:24 Natashia Mack
Perhaps.
00:38:27 Natashia Mack
There's some habits.
00:38:30 Natashia Mack
That, you know are not.
00:38:33 Natashia Mack
There's some habits or, you know, yeah, that.
00:38:38 Natashia Mack
You know you can't take with you to where you're going because it's not gonna be supportive.
00:38:46 Natashia Mack
It's not going to be.
00:38:49 Natashia Mack
It just doesn't.
00:38:49 Natashia Mack
It just can't.
00:38:51 Natashia Mack
Can't um.
00:38:53 Natashia Mack
Coexist.
00:38:57 Natashia Mack
So that's a possibility.
00:39:00 Natashia Mack
The other thing that I'm seeing in.
00:39:01 Natashia Mack
Mind right now is how.
00:39:03 Natashia Mack
We have this like internal tank of gas, right? And how people, places, patterns, habits, things.
00:39:14 Natashia Mack
Can either add to your tank of gas or they could take away.
00:39:20 Natashia Mack
And when you're kind of going through a realignment, it's so important to notice what adds what takes away.
00:39:30 Natashia Mack
You know, obviously there's going to be things in life that we have to do.
00:39:34 Natashia Mack
Just sort of like a non negotiable that takes away, right?
00:39:40 Natashia Mack
Costs you your inner fuel.
00:39:44 Natashia Mack
But that's why we then also have things that add to that fuel.
00:39:50 Natashia Mack
That's why it's so important to have things like that, right?
00:39:54 Natashia Mack
Nourishing relationships, nourishing friendships, nourishing.
00:39:59 Natashia Mack
Hobbies and you know routines.
00:40:06 Natashia Mack
Like going for walks and taking care of yourself and getting a good night's sleep and all that stuff. But just start to be mindful of the things you you know, you're going to start to recognize.
00:40:18 Natashia Mack
How certain things can drastically reduce?
00:40:23 Natashia Mack
That fuel amount that you have inside of you, like things that.
00:40:30 Natashia Mack
You don't have to let do that. You know what I mean? Like.
00:40:35 Natashia Mack
Recognize that there are some things where you do have a choice and you do have personal power and and maybe you need to ask for help, and that's OK too, right?
00:40:46 Natashia Mack
We're.
00:40:46 Natashia Mack
As humans, we are not meant to figure it all out on our own, and we're not meant to do it all on our own.
00:40:52 Natashia Mack
Sometimes we need.
00:40:53 Natashia Mack
That is a very normal thing anyways.
00:40:58 Natashia Mack
Yeah, just start to like, notice that notice your energy?
00:41:02 Natashia Mack
How you feel in certain places?
00:41:07 Natashia Mack
In certain relationships, like are things adding to your inner fuel or are they?
00:41:14 Natashia Mack
Taking away, are there things that are just leaking it? You know, like maybe there's things in the in the back of your mind that again, you've been avoiding. And that's just like leaking your inner feel.
00:41:28 Natashia Mack
I didn't realize that for the longest time or like like.
00:41:31 Natashia Mack
I understood the idea of it, but I didn't fully know it until I started taking care of those things.
00:41:38 Natashia Mack
Then I was like.
00:41:40 Natashia Mack
Oh.
00:41:40 Natashia Mack
Yes, those you know, once you clean up those leaks, those few leaks, those inner fuel leaks, it's wild.
00:41:52 Natashia Mack
Like the difference in how you feel?
00:41:56 Natashia Mack
Anyways, so there's that too.
00:41:58 Natashia Mack
So I just I feel like.
00:42:01 Natashia Mack
Yeah, those are the messages for you at this time and for us.
00:42:08 Natashia Mack
Because I'm right there with you.
00:42:12 Natashia Mack
I am continuing to, you know, be mindful of those.
00:42:18 Natashia Mack
I feel like it's an important part of being highly sensitive person.
00:42:23 Natashia Mack
An important part of.
00:42:27 Natashia Mack
Being a human wants to grow and evolve and pursue her life goals and mission and purpose and all that jazz, you know, so.
00:42:41 Natashia Mack
I really hope that.
00:42:44 Natashia Mack
You enjoyed this episode.
00:42:48 Natashia Mack
I feel like I'm forgetting some things 'cause I'm trying to like think in my brain.
00:42:51 Natashia Mack
Did I even start this episode where? Where?
00:42:56 Natashia Mack
Was this supposed to go again?
00:42:58 Natashia Mack
I can't remember the initial intention to be honest with you, but I'm gonna trust that this unfolded exactly as it was meant to and.
00:43:09 Natashia Mack
Yeah, if you have any questions or comments about this episode, please.
00:43:15 Natashia Mack
Let me know.
00:43:16 Natashia Mack
I would love to hear from you.
00:43:18 Natashia Mack
I love your feedback.
00:43:21 Natashia Mack
Alright, so I will talk to you guys next week. I hope you have a a lovely week and.
00:43:31 Natashia Mack
Yeah, bye.
The Hot Mess Medium Show Ep. 10 - Navigating the Other Side: Mediumship, Sensitivity & Personal Paranormal Tales with special guest Penny Guilford
On this episode of the Hot Mess Medium Show I had a really fun conversation with my special Guest, Medium Penny Guilford!
Some of the things we chatted about:
-All things paranormal, specifically our own personal stories & experiences!
-The connection between Anxiety & Spirit Energy
-Navigating Highly Sensitivity
-Highly sensitive children: how they are messengers & how they are often born with memories of their past life times
-Moments that solidified our beliefs that Mediumship isn’t “evil”
-& more!
Connect with Medium Penny Guilford:
YouTube, Facebook, and IG: @thepennyguilford
Website: www.pennyguilford.com
For upcoming events, private readings & more info on how you can have your questions answered in the podcast, go to: www.mediumnatashiamack.com
Follow me on Instagram: @mediumnatashiamack
Transcription:
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Transcript
00:00:03 Natashia Mack
And there we.
00:00:04 Natashia Mack
Hello to our listeners and.
00:00:09 Natashia Mack
Hello to.
00:00:10 Natashia Mack
Penny is our special guest for today.
00:00:12 Natashia Mack
I'm so excited to have her.
00:00:14 Natashia Mack
We're just giggling because we're setting an intention prayer and.
00:00:20 Natashia Mack
For this episode, and I asked her if she wanted to add anything and she said please God, no interruptions from my kids and.
00:00:28 Penny Guilford
I just thought that was the best.
00:00:31 Penny Guilford
No kids, no cat.
00:00:33 Speaker 3
Oh, the cat. You might hear her in the background scratching at the door, but.
00:00:38 Natashia Mack
You might hear mine too.
00:00:40 Natashia Mack
Oh, I actually had to, like, kick them all out before, you know, not obviously I I I lovingly carried them out of the bedroom because I knew that one of them at one point would want to scratch at the door, cry to go outside or whatever. So.
00:00:44 Penny Guilford
Huh.
00:00:56 Natashia Mack
There we go. No kids, no kids.
00:01:01 Penny Guilford
So OK, penny.
00:01:04 Natashia Mack
You know, this is probably the worst part is introduce yourself. I know mine.
00:01:09 Natashia Mack
Mine goes blank when people ask me to do that. Hopefully yours doesn't.
00:01:15 Speaker 3
I.
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Somebody asked me that.
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I'm like.
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Who am?
00:01:17 Penny Guilford
I know all of a sudden existential crisis.
00:01:20 Penny Guilford
Wait a second.
00:01:23 Speaker 3
All right.
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I'm.
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A mom wife.
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I am a psychic medium.
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I'm an end of life doula. I'm all the things.
00:01:35 Natashia Mack
I love that so many hats.
00:01:39
Yeah.
00:01:40 Natashia Mack
That's awesome. Well.
00:01:43 Natashia Mack
You know, I'm really excited to.
00:01:46 Natashia Mack
Get into this episode and just have a have a conversation about some paranormal things.
00:01:53 Natashia Mack
And.
00:01:53 Natashia Mack
I was so excited cause Penny actually submitted a story.
00:01:59 Natashia Mack
For me to share in the podcast, but when I saw the story and saw that she actually has so many to share, and because I know and love penny, I thought that it would be perfect to have her on and to chat about some. Some of those things.
00:02:12 Natashia Mack
I know I'm someone who loves to hear about paranormal stories.
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I actually.
00:02:18 Natashia Mack
I was a kid. I wanted to be a paranormal investigator.
00:02:21 Penny Guilford
Replay.
00:02:24 Natashia Mack
So the stories like this, just like even.
00:02:26 Natashia Mack
But I don't.
00:02:27 Natashia Mack
Scary movies cannot watch any scary movies. Oh.
00:02:29 Penny Guilford
OK.
00:02:30 Speaker 3
Me.
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Either.
00:02:33 Natashia Mack
Just keep them far away from me. But personal stories that are real.
00:02:37 Penny Guilford
Yeah. Tell me all.
00:02:38 Penny Guilford
Yeah.
00:02:40 Natashia Mack
Which is kind of backwards anyways, so I think before we get into like the stories, I'd love to hear first.
00:02:51 Natashia Mack
Kind of like your origin.
00:02:52 Natashia Mack
How did you know you were a psychic?
00:02:54 Natashia Mack
And.
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You have these experiences as a child.
00:03:00 Speaker 3
Yes, I was a big dork and went to the library all the time, and I'd get, like, all the books on.
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Ghosts, demonic possessions, ESP. Psychic stuff like I read all the books that.
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Little library had on it.
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Obsessed, like, even as a kid with all this stuff.
00:03:23 Speaker 3
I remember my.
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He used to actually talk to me about Astral.
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I didn't know what it was at the time, but he would talk about, like remote viewing into his neighbor's house, and I'm thinking that's such a weird thing.
00:03:37 Speaker 3
Why do you want to look in your neighbor's house? But.
00:03:40 Penny Guilford
Those everywhere.
00:03:42 Natashia Mack
My grandfather also used to talk to me about astral projection, and he had books on it. I have goosies everywhere.
00:03:46 Penny Guilford
Oh, that's so good.
00:03:50 Penny Guilford
That's so funny.
00:03:51 Natashia Mack
I love that he used it to Snoop in his neighbor's home.
00:03:57 Penny Guilford
Where would.
00:03:58 Penny Guilford
Choose.
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Your neighbor's house.
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But he was very much into that stuff.
00:04:03 Speaker 3
He would talk about.
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Ghosts and paranormal stuff and.
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You know, I remember my my mom, like, growing up, I would watch.
00:04:15 Speaker 3
You know, I don't remember Montel Williams show.
00:04:18 Speaker 3
Brown was always on.
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We'd watch that every week, crossing over with John Edward.
00:04:24 Speaker 3
So my mom, like I grew up in a religious house, but there was also that, like, curiosity there, I think too.
00:04:31 Speaker 3
And.
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So it washed all the psychic shows and I just loved it.
00:04:39 Speaker 3
And part of it too is. I think I knew I was having weird things happening to me and I was trying to.
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Out.
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And like what it was type of thing.
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So when I was a kid, I used to see at night a shadow walking down the hallway and of course freaked me out.
00:04:56 Speaker 3
Who freaked anybody out?
00:04:58 Penny Guilford
But I was.
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Always terrified of like the dark and stuff.
00:05:02 Speaker 3
I would see shadows as a kid.
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I would randomly hear music when there's no music playing.
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I remember one time I must have been like.
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Don't know eight or nine and I was crying for some.
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The middle the night. I have no idea why I was crying, but I felt like a hand on my face.
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Course. I stopped crying immediately because I was freaky.
00:05:25 Penny Guilford
Yeah, I've only had a few strange.
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Experiences and I think I was always trying to figure out.
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What it was.
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You know, I've always been very spiritual and, you know, believe in God and all that.
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There's.
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So it's like, OK.
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What are these ghosts in my house?
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But.
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Yeah. And I had one crazy experience when I was about.
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Think.
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Was 13, so me and a family member like we shared a bedroom at the time and it was this was like, I don't know, 10:00 at night.
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Had already put the lights out.
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Going to.
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I don't remember who woke up who I think she might have woke me up, but.
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I open my eyes and there's like these bright green orbs all over my room.
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Like they're not moving.
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They're just everywhere in the room.
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And we were, like, arguing. Who's gonna turn the light on?
00:06:27 Penny Guilford
Eventually she got up and turned the light on.
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It all disappeared.
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And I've never experienced anything like that since.
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And I don't know what it was, but obviously something and you know it ran and told my parents and like, oh, it must've been car headlights or, you know, just kind of brushing it off right.
00:06:47 Speaker 3
But yeah, so that was probably one of the biggest.
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Strange paranormal things that I haven't been able to really explain.
00:06:55 Speaker 3
I think I'm going on a tangent now, but I'm.
00:06:57 Natashia Mack
No, this is yeah, this is perfect. I love this.
00:06:57 Speaker 3
Gonna get my story.
00:07:02 Penny Guilford
Keep going.
00:07:04 Speaker 3
So.
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When I was about 16, yeah, I was 16.
00:07:10 Speaker 3
I was going through some depression.
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As a lot of 16 year olds do.
00:07:15 Speaker 3
But I was kind of getting frustrated. 'cause like my TV would like randomly turn on by itself at night. And I, you know, hear this music and all these things.
00:07:24 Speaker 3
I was getting.
00:07:25 Speaker 3
I'm like, can you please stop doing this to me?
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And it stopped.
00:07:29 Speaker 3
Like I didn't experience anything paranormal from 16 till like.
00:07:33 Speaker 3
My early 20s is when it started coming.
00:07:36 Natashia Mack
Wow.
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And I think.
00:07:39 Speaker 3
My theory is, you know.
00:07:41 Speaker 3
God heard me and was like OK.
00:07:43 Speaker 3
Chick needs a break.
00:07:45 Penny Guilford
Oh, and then when I was ready to be coming back.
00:07:46 Natashia Mack
Yeah, yeah.
00:07:49 Natashia Mack
Yeah.
00:07:49 Penny Guilford
And it started.
00:07:50 Speaker 3
With the most.
00:07:51 Speaker 3
Strange thing was we had a kitten at the time, who's currently the one yelling at the door.
00:07:57 Speaker 3
Not a kitten anymore. She's old.
00:07:59 Penny Guilford
Can't even hear her.
00:08:02 Speaker 3
So she.
00:08:05 Speaker 3
So she was a.
00:08:07 Speaker 3
This was in the middle of the night. I was in the bathroom and I saw what I thought was the kitten, you know, coming up to me. And I'm like, oh, how did she get out-of-the-box 'cause? She was really little at the time. So she.
00:08:19 Speaker 3
In like a cardboard box.
00:08:21 Speaker 3
And so I reached down and my hand went through it and it disappeared.
00:08:30 Penny Guilford
Well, look, this was not my kitten.
00:08:34 Penny Guilford
Her siblings.
00:08:35 Penny Guilford
I don't know because.
00:08:36 Speaker 3
She just randomly walked up to my husband one day like.
00:08:39 Speaker 3
She just found.
00:08:40 Speaker 3
Like that's how I feel like that's how all my animals come to me.
00:08:42 Speaker 3
Just find us.
00:08:46 Speaker 3
So that was.
00:08:48 Speaker 3
That's the only ghost cat I've ever experienced.
00:08:54 Natashia Mack
I love ghost cat experiences.
00:08:57 Natashia Mack
The only time I've experienced like ghost cats has been them like jumping on the foot of my bed.
00:09:03 Natashia Mack
You know when you.
00:09:04 Natashia Mack
I don't know if you thought that before.
00:09:07 Natashia Mack
That seems to be a really common one for people. When I when I bring that.
00:09:12 Natashia Mack
It's like.
00:09:14 Natashia Mack
It feels like a cat jumping on your bed and then you look and there's no cat jumping.
00:09:16 Speaker 3
Yeah.
00:09:18 Speaker 3
Yep.
00:09:18 Natashia Mack
Your bed.
00:09:22 Natashia Mack
And I remember even like before, I knew I was a medium.
00:09:28 Natashia Mack
I had.
00:09:28 Natashia Mack
Experience. And I knew it's so weird.
00:09:32 Natashia Mack
You just know, like, oh, like my cat, Tommy, for my childhood, popped into my head.
00:09:38 Natashia Mack
It's funny how you kind of know or you.
00:09:43 Natashia Mack
You even when you don't realize you're a medium, you're still kind of it's this weird inner knowing, right?
00:09:50 Penny Guilford
Yeah.
00:09:50 Natashia Mack
Kind of like when you yelled out. Can you guys just stop doing this like you even though?
00:09:55 Natashia Mack
You didn't know you were a medium at the time, like you were 16.
00:09:58 Natashia Mack
That's when you were 16, but it's cool how you still, like, were able to set that boundary and spirit listened.
00:10:07 Speaker 3
Yeah.
00:10:07 Natashia Mack
Don't.
00:10:08 Natashia Mack
I felt like.
00:10:08 Natashia Mack
There's like a golden nugget there for people to hear that.
00:10:13 Natashia Mack
You can do that like you can talk out loud and set that boundary with spirit.
00:10:17 Natashia Mack
And yeah, I really love that you share that.
00:10:21 Natashia Mack
And then the.
00:10:23 Natashia Mack
Green orbs.
00:10:25 Natashia Mack
So I have seen orbs before too, and my kids have seen orbs as well.
00:10:31 Natashia Mack
That is just the coolest thing to see with your physical eyes.
00:10:34 Natashia Mack
Oh my gosh, it's it's.
00:10:35 Speaker 3
It's crazy.
00:10:37 Natashia Mack
You kind of like gaslight yourself sometimes, like.
00:10:39 Penny Guilford
Did I really see that?
00:10:43 Natashia Mack
Was that real?
00:10:43 Natashia Mack
Oh, but you know, that made me think.
00:10:44
But.
00:10:45 Natashia Mack
I don't know if this resonates with you, but it made me think of Archangel Raphael.
00:10:51 Natashia Mack
Because I've seen blue orbs like many.
00:10:57 Natashia Mack
Bright blue orbs and then that makes me think of Archangel Michael because his color is blue. But anyways.
00:11:03
Yeah.
00:11:06 Natashia Mack
Just thought I'd throw that up there.
00:11:08 Natashia Mack
But so when was the moment that?
00:11:08 Speaker 3
Interesting.
00:11:13 Natashia Mack
You were like, OK.
00:11:15 Natashia Mack
I'm kind of a medium and I kind of.
00:11:19 Penny Guilford
I don't wanna see.
00:11:19 Natashia Mack
To see what happens.
00:11:22 Natashia Mack
I'm so curious.
00:11:24
Spell.
00:11:26 Speaker 3
I'll start with 2017 was like a big year for me.
00:11:33 Speaker 3
So I had my daughter in 2016 and I feel like after she was born it's like something opened up, you know, like more and more experiences. Like somehow I got into astrology or went down this whole like rabbit hole on YouTube.
00:11:50 Speaker 3
Don't even know how it started and that kind of.
00:11:53 Speaker 3
Spiraled into, like, more mediumship stuff and psychic stuff like I'd always.
00:11:57 Speaker 3
Been interested in it, but that kind.
00:11:59 Speaker 3
Like I don't know, it started the whole.
00:12:01 Speaker 3
Thing and in 2017, my uncle passed away and my nephew passed away and I started having a lot of like dreams.
00:12:14 Speaker 3
Very vivid dreams, especially with my.
00:12:16 Speaker 3
He would visit me in my dreams a lot. And you know, I had a dream that.
00:12:23 Speaker 3
He was living on this house on a hill and at the time we were trying to get a new house because we lived in a rinky **** little thing and about to have her second baby, and we needed a bigger one.
00:12:35 Speaker 3
But.
00:12:36
I.
00:12:37 Speaker 3
Had this dream of him in this House on this hill, and then we ended up, you know, few months later.
00:12:42 Speaker 3
Buying a house on a hill and you know, I feel like things just started.
00:12:48 Speaker 3
Clicking and I do remember one day I was at home and.
00:12:53 Speaker 3
And I started having like these like I was laying down for a nap or something.
00:12:58 Speaker 3
Don't think I was sick or something, but.
00:13:00 Speaker 3
I started having like these visions of like people's faces. These random people just popping in and like colors of blue and purple.
00:13:11 Speaker 3
And I'm like, what is this?
00:13:14 Speaker 3
And then.
00:13:15 Speaker 3
In 2020, I started seeing.
00:13:20 Speaker 3
A mentor.
00:13:22 Speaker 3
And.
00:13:25 Speaker 3
I started doing like more like Oracle card readings because I've always been kind of fascinated with those and I feel like I really thrive in Oracle card readings.
00:13:33 Speaker 3
I really do well with them and you know, working with this mentor I'm like.
00:13:40 Speaker 3
Maybe I'm a medium.
00:13:44 Speaker 3
We're doing, you know, all these practices with me and like, you know, kind of remote viewing things and.
00:13:52 Speaker 3
I don't.
00:13:52 Speaker 3
It's just I started doing readings for other people and was surprised by how accurate they were.
00:13:59 Speaker 3
I'm like, am I just making this stuff?
00:14:01 Speaker 3
You know 'cause, that's what it feels like. It feels like you're making a bad.
00:14:03 Natashia Mack
Yeah, absolutely.
00:14:06 Speaker 3
Yeah, that's right. Or yeah, my grandpa, blah, blah, blah. And it all makes sense for them.
00:14:12 Speaker 3
Like.
00:14:13 Speaker 3
Maybe there's something to this?
00:14:17 Natashia Mack
I love that.
00:14:18 Natashia Mack
I think I'm so glad you brought that up. One. I'm so glad and grateful you shared all of that.
00:14:24 Natashia Mack
I think that's like a.
00:14:26 Natashia Mack
I don't know if the right word is a misconception when it comes to this work like I.
00:14:30 Natashia Mack
Truly believe.
00:14:32 Natashia Mack
So many people are walking around having these experiences, but the and and receiving information but not realizing it because.
00:14:41 Natashia Mack
You don't know unless it gets validated, right?
00:14:44 Natashia Mack
Right. You you have no idea. Unless it gets validated, validated and there's been so many times, like, not only for me personally, but even like working with students where they're like, well, just feels like I'm making it up like, OK, I see this in my head or I.
00:14:59 Natashia Mack
This or I'm hearing this or whatever.
00:15:03 Natashia Mack
But they're just so doubtful the whole time that there's any meaning to it because they have those thoughts all the time. They have those feelings all the time.
00:15:12 Natashia Mack
Then there's someone on the other end being like, Oh my God. And they're able to validate the information. And then they're like, what?
00:15:18 Penny Guilford
That's it.
00:15:19 Penny Guilford
Like it's not this like big.
00:15:23 Natashia Mack
I don't know like this this big in your face thing. That's just so obvious that it's you.
00:15:29 Natashia Mack
Know what I mean?
00:15:30 Speaker 3
Yeah. You think it's gonna be like this big, booming voice from God or something? And it's not literally a thought in your head and.
00:15:34 Penny Guilford
Yeah.
00:15:37 Speaker 3
Like OK.
00:15:40 Natashia Mack
It's literally a thought.
00:15:41 Natashia Mack
So like when we're in mediumship mode, you're literally just paying attention to your thoughts and noticing them, and you're just saying out loud what's coming through.
00:15:50 Natashia Mack
That's it.
00:15:51 Penny Guilford
That's it's crazy.
00:15:54 Natashia Mack
It's crazy.
00:15:55 Natashia Mack
OK, penny, I have to say, I didn't realize how much we had in common.
00:16:01 Natashia Mack
Like, yeah, you're saying your story, and I'm like.
00:16:05 Natashia Mack
This is weird.
00:16:07 Natashia Mack
Because I also had my daughter named Penny in 2016.
00:16:14 Natashia Mack
And that's what kind of ignited things for me.
00:16:16 Natashia Mack
And I started everything in 2017.
00:16:17 Penny Guilford
Oh, interesting.
00:16:20 Penny Guilford
Yeah.
00:16:21 Penny Guilford
That's weird.
00:16:24 Natashia Mack
That is so.
00:16:26 Natashia Mack
And even when you're explaining the seeing the colors and the faces in your mind, I remember that happening to me too.
00:16:35 Natashia Mack
So wild.
00:16:36
Yeah.
00:16:37 Natashia Mack
Just.
00:16:38 Natashia Mack
Yeah, it's just so weird. Like, I I didn't know other people experience that.
00:16:44 Natashia Mack
Yeah.
00:16:47 Natashia Mack
And.
00:16:48 Natashia Mack
What was the other thing?
00:16:51 Natashia Mack
Your nephew that you mentioned is not the one that I had connected to the one time.
00:16:56 Natashia Mack
I can't remember.
00:16:57 Speaker 3
I think so, yeah.
00:16:59 Natashia Mack
OK.
00:17:01 Natashia Mack
Very, very sweet young man, right?
00:17:05 Speaker 3
I mean, now he is.
00:17:07 Natashia Mack
Oh, now he is. Oh.
00:17:07 Speaker 3
A little ****.
00:17:12 Natashia Mack
I love that.
00:17:14 Penny Guilford
Of.
00:17:15 Penny Guilford
Well, you know.
00:17:19 Penny Guilford
Well, OK.
00:17:22 Natashia Mack
Oh question.
00:17:23 Speaker 3
Mm.
00:17:25 Natashia Mack
So it sounds like similar to.
00:17:26 Natashia Mack
You realized you were a medium and like you developed all of this after you got married.
00:17:33 Speaker 3
Yes. Yeah.
00:17:34 Natashia Mack
Right. So.
00:17:37 Natashia Mack
Is your husband open?
00:17:38 Natashia Mack
Is how is he with all of this? I'm so curious.
00:17:43 Speaker 3
Though.
00:17:44 Speaker 3
My husband was very much a sceptic.
00:17:47 Speaker 3
You know, very. I'm not gonna say close minded but just like never. He never had these experiences.
00:17:53 Speaker 3
He just wasn't paying attention.
00:17:55 Natashia Mack
Right.
00:17:57 Speaker 3
And then when I started developing more and you know, he was seeing that.
00:18:03 Speaker 3
I was getting things right and one thing I think really for him was when.
00:18:10 Speaker 3
I had a reading with a medium and I let him listen to it.
00:18:14 Speaker 3
And she was so spot on about so many things.
00:18:17 Speaker 3
He was like, wait a minute.
00:18:20 Speaker 3
It's something weird that happened that we kind of both shared so.
00:18:21
Thanks.
00:18:26 Speaker 3
We were both in the living room and I was just sitting in my chair.
00:18:31 Speaker 3
Don't know reading a book or on my phone or something.
00:18:33 Speaker 3
Don't.
00:18:35 Speaker 3
And I heard this like pop right above my.
00:18:39 Speaker 3
It was like a pop of I don't even know how to describe it like an energy bubble just popped above my head and he heard it too. And we're like.
00:18:47 Speaker 3
What's that?
00:18:49
100.
00:18:49 Speaker 3
Still haven't explained that.
00:18:51 Speaker 3
It's so bizarre, but I mean over the years he's definitely like, he fully accepts it now and it's like, you know, yeah, this this stuff exists.
00:19:01 Speaker 3
Kind of went from like, yeah, I don't know if anything.
00:19:04 Speaker 3
Is really out there after we die or whatever to now it's like he definitely accepts it.
00:19:09 Natashia Mack
Oh, I'm so happy to hear that like.
00:19:13 Natashia Mack
Like. Yeah, that's really good to know, especially because it's something that really started to flourish after you guys got married.
00:19:21 Penny Guilford
Yeah.
00:19:22 Natashia Mack
Yeah.
00:19:23 Penny Guilford
Nothing like that marriage.
00:19:24 Speaker 3
You marry a completely different person and you've changed together over the years.
00:19:29 Speaker 3
So.
00:19:30 Natashia Mack
Absolutely. Yeah, I can totally relate to that.
00:19:34 Natashia Mack
Yeah, my husband and I are completely different people than who we were when we first got together.
00:19:38 Speaker 3
Right.
00:19:40 Natashia Mack
And he definitely didn't sign up to be.
00:19:41 Penny Guilford
Married to.
00:19:43 Penny Guilford
A medium.
00:19:45 Natashia Mack
But luckily he had his own experiences as a child, like he very vividly recalls his, you know, grandmother who passed on sitting at the foot of his bed.
00:19:56 Natashia Mack
You know, things like that.
00:19:56 Speaker 3
Hmm.
00:19:59 Natashia Mack
And then, of course, there's been times as a grown adult like since me, you know, doing this work.
00:20:06 Natashia Mack
There's a few times where.
00:20:09 Natashia Mack
He had experiences of his own where he's like, OK, how did that just fall?
00:20:14 Natashia Mack
Or he he was in the bathroom one time and a pop can went flying off the counter and he's like.
00:20:24 Penny Guilford
Oh, not today, not today.
00:20:29 Natashia Mack
So yeah, he's had experiences like that and. And yeah, luckily he's he's.
00:20:34 Natashia Mack
With it.
00:20:35 Natashia Mack
So I'm always just so.
00:20:36 Natashia Mack
You know how it is for other people.
00:20:38 Natashia Mack
So I know not everyone is open or accepting of it, and obviously it's very human to be.
00:20:43 Penny Guilford
Mm.
00:20:45 Natashia Mack
After call until you've had your own experiences.
00:20:50 Natashia Mack
I love that.
00:20:52 Natashia Mack
He had his own experience and he was able to kind of come to those realizations on his own.
00:20:59 Natashia Mack
Yeah, that's really cool.
00:21:01 Speaker 3
And I think it's good to have some skepticism because, you know, there are people out there that fake stuff or try to get money or, you know, there's so many idiot scammers out there that you, you have to be discerning.
00:21:14 Natashia Mack
Absolutely. Discernment is so healthy to have, and it's so good to have, so I'm glad that you, you know, mentioned that too. I completely agree.
00:21:24 Penny Guilford
Uh.
00:21:26 Natashia Mack
It actually.
00:21:29 Natashia Mack
Like even though I knew.
00:21:32 Natashia Mack
He believed I was so afraid of having him at one of my group events for the longest time he actually just came to one of mine for the very first time last year and it was. It was really, really cool and I find it so nice having.
00:21:51 Natashia Mack
I don't know why I'm sharing this.
00:21:52 Natashia Mack
I find male energy at group events is really nice too. 'cause. I find it's like so much more grounding.
00:21:58 Natashia Mack
It's like just full of women.
00:22:00 Penny Guilford
Yeah.
00:22:02 Penny Guilford
Right.
00:22:02 Natashia Mack
Yeah. So he did come to 1, and it actually turned out so nice and it was.
00:22:09 Natashia Mack
It was nice to be able to share that with him, you know, and see that, oh, he is very accepting of it and.
00:22:11
Mm.
00:22:16 Natashia Mack
You know, open.
00:22:18 Natashia Mack
I'm sure that's a vulnerable thing for for.
00:22:21 Natashia Mack
Husband to do.
00:22:23 Speaker 3
Oh, it's.
00:22:24 Speaker 3
My wife just speaks to the dead.
00:22:25 Penny Guilford
Yeah, yeah, it's totally, totally normal.
00:22:29 Penny Guilford
And the other thing is like.
00:22:30 Natashia Mack
He's not spiritual at all.
00:22:31
Like.
00:22:32 Speaker 3
Yeah.
00:22:33 Natashia Mack
He doesn't have, you know, and not that this is a a bad.
00:22:38 Natashia Mack
I'm just saying, like, you know, he doesn't have his own personal relationship with God or the creator.
00:22:44 Natashia Mack
Mm.
00:22:45 Natashia Mack
And you know, he didn't grow up religious or anything like that.
00:22:49 Natashia Mack
So we're very, very different when it comes to that. But it was cool that he still, you know, supportive and.
00:22:57 Speaker 3
Yeah.
00:22:58 Natashia Mack
So yeah, anyways, now I feel like I'm going on a tangent, but.
00:23:01 Penny Guilford
Listen.
00:23:03 Natashia Mack
So, OK, what was the other thing that I wanted to share?
00:23:10 Natashia Mack
Or ask you.
00:23:12 Speaker 3
Oh our.
00:23:14 Natashia Mack
Are any of your kids highly sensitive?
00:23:17 Natashia Mack
Have you noticed similarities between what you experienced and then it happening with your kids as well?
00:23:27 Speaker 3
Yeah. So I have two daughters. They're.
00:23:31 Speaker 3
Oh my God. How old are 8:00 and 6:00?
00:23:34 Penny Guilford
Touch me with all four. I'm like.
00:23:39
So.
00:23:41 Speaker 3
My oldest, Lydia. She's. I mean, they're both sensitive, but she's definitely sensitive. If you follow astrology at all.
00:23:51 Speaker 3
Scorpio Moon and Scorpio rising. So.
00:23:55 Penny Guilford
Oh my God.
00:23:55 Speaker 3
Lots of Scorpio energy.
00:23:59
But.
00:23:59 Natashia Mack
Wait, is she October, Scorpio or November?
00:24:03 Natashia Mack
Cause I've noticed such a huge difference between October and November.
00:24:08 Speaker 3
No, she was born in May. So she's Gemini's son.
00:24:10 Natashia Mack
Oh, sorry. OK.
00:24:11 Speaker 3
But her her writing and moon are both Scorpio.
00:24:14 Natashia Mack
Right. OK.
00:24:15 Natashia Mack
That's what you said, yes?
00:24:18
It's.
00:24:19
Funny.
00:24:19 Speaker 3
I do have a lot of like Scorpio friends.
00:24:22
Oh.
00:24:24 Speaker 3
But yeah, I've noticed with her.
00:24:27 Speaker 3
She's very.
00:24:29 Speaker 3
Sensitive, like emotion wise, and like picking up energy like sometimes she'll say things that I'm like, who told you to say that?
00:24:38 Speaker 3
You know, it just sounds very.
00:24:41 Speaker 3
It just sounds like somebody is talking through.
00:24:45 Speaker 3
Not in a creepy way, but you know, like the.
00:24:48 Penny Guilford
Seeds been planted in her brain.
00:24:50 Penny Guilford
Yes.
00:24:52 Speaker 3
I don't just remember the thing, she says.
00:24:54 Speaker 3
Like.
00:24:55 Speaker 3
I think that's, you know, my spirit. People on the other side relaying a message to me through her.
00:25:02 Speaker 3
But she.
00:25:05 Speaker 3
She was scared of the dark for a long time and talked about, you know, seeing shadows in her room and lights and things.
00:25:11 Speaker 3
I think she also probably experienced things like I did at her age.
00:25:17 Speaker 3
My youngest doesn't talk about it as much, but I think she also.
00:25:24 Speaker 3
Is sensitive.
00:25:26 Natashia Mack
OK. Yeah.
00:25:29 Natashia Mack
The being scared of the dark thing is such a common theme with highly sensitive people. Wow.
00:25:34 Speaker 3
Mm.
00:25:37 Natashia Mack
I could relate to that very much so.
00:25:40 Speaker 3
I know one thing that Lydia said when she was I think she was three at the.
00:25:46 Speaker 3
Which just always stuck with me.
00:25:47 Speaker 3
It was creepy, but.
00:25:51 Speaker 3
He has this.
00:25:52 Speaker 3
Birthmark on the back of her neck. She told me when she was three. That a long time ago she was a Princess.
00:26:01 Speaker 3
Was a different color and they chopped her head off. I'm like.
00:26:05 Penny Guilford
Oh.
00:26:07 Speaker 3
Excuse me.
00:26:11 Penny Guilford
Creepy. Yes, I have, like, painful goosebumps.
00:26:20 Penny Guilford
Oh wow.
00:26:21 Natashia Mack
Wow. Wow.
00:26:24 Natashia Mack
It is so fascinating to me when children remember other lifetimes like.
00:26:32 Natashia Mack
I'm like a nerd for that video on YouTube, I've watched like three times about this. This woman, her life's work.
00:26:34
This yeah.
00:26:40 Natashia Mack
Is is coming is like about.
00:26:43 Natashia Mack
Supporting kids who remember their traumatic past lives and like helping them through that and connecting dots from like.
00:26:52 Natashia Mack
To real people who who lived like before, these kids were even born. And like it's so anyways.
00:26:57 Penny Guilford
If you ever.
00:26:59 Natashia Mack
To watch it, I'll have to send it to you.
00:27:02 Speaker 3
Yeah.
00:27:03 Natashia Mack
It's just so cool to watch anyways.
00:27:08 Natashia Mack
That's amazing.
00:27:09 Natashia Mack
Also, so creepy 'cause she was 3.
00:27:14 Penny Guilford
And then did you?
00:27:15 Penny Guilford
You know about people getting their.
00:27:16 Penny Guilford
Cut off.
00:27:16 Speaker 3
You were three years old.
00:27:18 Natashia Mack
Whoa. I.
00:27:19 Natashia Mack
And like the whole birthmark thing too.
00:27:22 Natashia Mack
Like.
00:27:23 Penny Guilford
Mm.
00:27:25 Natashia Mack
Gives me the the willies like you know.
00:27:29 Natashia Mack
And did you find when she turned 4, that started dwindling down a little bit or no it did.
00:27:36 Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah, I mean she.
00:27:39 Speaker 3
She still will talk about seeing like lights and shadows and stuff, but I feel like I feel like 4 is like a turning point.
00:27:39
'S.
00:27:46 Natashia Mack
Yes.
00:27:46 Speaker 3
I don't know if they start forgetting things before and it starts at all.
00:27:51 Speaker 3
Door starts to close a little bit.
00:27:53 Natashia Mack
Yes.
00:27:54 Speaker 3
Yeah.
00:27:56 Natashia Mack
Yeah. Because when they when they come, I'm sure you already know.
00:27:59 Natashia Mack
But like for those listening who are curious 'cause like I said 4 because that's exactly what starts to happen.
00:28:08 Natashia Mack
You know when they're when they're born, they're the closest things to heaven, right?
00:28:13 Natashia Mack
They're fresh from the other side, and then it seems like.
00:28:18 Natashia Mack
And then yeah, leading up to four, they're so connected.
00:28:22 Natashia Mack
They're so.
00:28:23 Natashia Mack
They're so innocent. Like it's just they vibrate so high. And then as they turn 4, it's like it starts to dwindle a bit.
00:28:25
Yeah.
00:28:35 Natashia Mack
Specifically.
00:28:38 Natashia Mack
Well.
00:28:38 Natashia Mack
All my kids have had.
00:28:39 Natashia Mack
They've all seen either orbs or they've seen, you know, spirit.
00:28:44 Natashia Mack
Been little messengers, things like that.
00:28:47 Natashia Mack
Which is so like freaky when.
00:28:50 Penny Guilford
I.
00:28:55 Natashia Mack
Penny. She used to be such a little.
00:28:59 Natashia Mack
Like like how you describe the things that she would say is like, who told you to say that?
00:29:06 Natashia Mack
I don't understand how that came out of a three-year old's mouth, you know.
00:29:06 Penny Guilford
Yeah.
00:29:12 Natashia Mack
And so she was in daycare.
00:29:16 Natashia Mack
When you know before she started school, 'cause, that's when I was really starting to, like, do readings during the day and things like that and.
00:29:24 Natashia Mack
There was this one day she got home from daycare.
00:29:28 Natashia Mack
And we had this coloring book that had these, like, inspirational quotes in it.
00:29:33 Natashia Mack
And she colored this one specific page.
00:29:36 Natashia Mack
She ripped it out and she said she had to give it to one of the girls at daycare.
00:29:43 Natashia Mack
Like like one of the workers.
00:29:45 Natashia Mack
And I was.
00:29:46 Natashia Mack
Oh, that's so sweet. You colored her a.
00:29:48 Natashia Mack
Like not thinking you know anyways, but it was something about.
00:29:49
Uh.
00:29:55 Natashia Mack
Her path, and like it was just like one of those those positive affirmations about, like, following your heart or growth, whatever.
00:30:06 Natashia Mack
I can't even remember, so I'm butchering it. Of course, naturally, but.
00:30:11 Natashia Mack
Anyway, so she gave that to her. A daycare the next day, and it turned out that.
00:30:19 Natashia Mack
The worker really needed that message.
00:30:22 Natashia Mack
Like she really needed it because she ended up getting a job somewhere else that was going to be better for her, but she needed to know that it was OK to, like, move on from where she was to where she was going.
00:30:34 Natashia Mack
And it was just like a message about her being supported, you know.
00:30:37 Penny Guilford
And it's just like.
00:30:38
Yeah.
00:30:39 Natashia Mack
How can you make that **** out?
00:30:41 Speaker 3
Right.
00:30:42 Natashia Mack
Right. And there's this other time.
00:30:46 Natashia Mack
Where I was asking for a.
00:30:48 Natashia Mack
You know when you're asking for a sign and you're like, OK, if I meant to do this, show me this. If I meant to do that, show me this.
00:30:54 Natashia Mack
Well, this one time I did that, but with feathers, I said OK, if I meant to do this like show me feathers and.
00:31:04 Natashia Mack
She or sorry.
00:31:05 Natashia Mack
And then I kind of left it.
00:31:06 Natashia Mack
I surrendered it and I just kind of went on with my day and.
00:31:12 Natashia Mack
I remember I was like, getting the van ready be cut back when I had a van.
00:31:19 Natashia Mack
Oh, my God. Sorry I'm so squirrely right now.
00:31:25 Natashia Mack
There we go.
00:31:26 Penny Guilford
Yeah.
00:31:28 Natashia Mack
All of a sudden, penny runs outside.
00:31:32 Natashia Mack
Holding like two or three dream catchers.
00:31:35 Natashia Mack
And she's like here.
00:31:37 Natashia Mack
Like I found this like this is for you.
00:31:42 Penny Guilford
What the ****?
00:31:42 Penny Guilford
First of all, where do you even get?
00:31:44 Penny Guilford
I didn't even know we had that many dream catchers.
00:31:47 Penny Guilford
Like why are?
00:31:47 Natashia Mack
You carrying me a pile of feathers like you know, I just blew my mind.
00:31:52
Yeah.
00:31:53 Natashia Mack
Those things have happened so many freaking times.
00:31:58 Natashia Mack
Yeah. And then the past life thing, I I would say my third had the most past life memories. He literally.
00:32:09 Natashia Mack
Used to ask us to bring him to his other dad.
00:32:14 Penny Guilford
None.
00:32:14 Natashia Mack
Yeah, I know. Like he would.
00:32:17 Penny Guilford
He was often, and we'd be like, no.
00:32:20 Penny Guilford
Swear this is your dad.
00:32:23 Penny Guilford
This is your dad.
00:32:24 Penny Guilford
This is your real dad.
00:32:25 Natashia Mack
No, my other dad.
00:32:27 Natashia Mack
I'm like, I don't know.
00:32:28 Penny Guilford
What he's talking about?
00:32:30 Penny Guilford
But.
00:32:30 Natashia Mack
He was so adamant, like he was just so sure.
00:32:37 Natashia Mack
That he had.
00:32:38 Natashia Mack
Another dad, like he wanted to go see his other dad, and it was so hard sometimes, like explaining that to someone who.
00:32:49 Natashia Mack
I don't.
00:32:50 Natashia Mack
It's like he wasn't fully grounded here yet, but you know, like that's what it felt like. 'cause. There was times where he'd also talk about his other home. His other family, like, or his friends and.
00:32:53
Mm.
00:33:02 Natashia Mack
He.
00:33:03 Natashia Mack
Cry and get so upset 'cause he wanted to go.
00:33:07 Natashia Mack
These people that I had no idea who they were, you know?
00:33:11 Speaker 3
Yeah.
00:33:12 Natashia Mack
Yeah, it's just wild being a mom, being a mom in general is like the hardest job in the world. But then.
00:33:15
Yeah.
00:33:20 Natashia Mack
You have a child who's so highly sensitive and remembering past lifetimes, and you're like, OK.
00:33:26 Natashia Mack
I didn't.
00:33:27 Natashia Mack
Up for this, but this is great.
00:33:30 Natashia Mack
So scary.
00:33:31 Natashia Mack
Anyways.
00:33:32 Speaker 3
You know, I try to like.
00:33:34 Speaker 3
Anytime my kids come to me with some weird story or whatever, I try to like nurture that cause, you know, I was shutting out a lot. Like, you know, I grew up in a religious house and it's like, oh, no, it's it's nothing or whatever.
00:33:48 Speaker 3
So I try to.
00:33:51 Speaker 3
Validate.
00:33:51 Speaker 3
Make them or make them feel.
00:33:53 Speaker 3
I guess really because.
00:33:56 Speaker 3
I mean, when you get shot down yourself so many times, you start doubting yourself.
00:34:00 Natashia Mack
Literally.
00:34:00 Speaker 3
Like yeah, like, am I really experiencing.
00:34:03 Speaker 3
Is this really happens like you gaslight yourself? Yes, exactly.
00:34:09 Natashia Mack
I love that you validate them.
00:34:11 Natashia Mack
So important.
00:34:14 Natashia Mack
So so important.
00:34:15 Natashia Mack
Like you said, you kind of when you're not being validated and when.
00:34:19 Natashia Mack
You're constantly being shut.
00:34:21 Natashia Mack
You grow up to be an adult who doesn't trust their intuition or their right, their natural instincts and things like that.
00:34:25 Speaker 3
Right.
00:34:29 Natashia Mack
I totally experienced that.
00:34:31 Natashia Mack
So it's like, of course God would give me 4 highly sensitive children.
00:34:36 Penny Guilford
So that I could learn.
00:34:40 Natashia Mack
You know.
00:34:41 Natashia Mack
Learn so much, of course, but also guide them in the way that I wish I could have been guided. Or, you know, I was kind of the only one in my family who was having these.
00:34:53 Natashia Mack
Sorry, not not the only one.
00:34:56 Natashia Mack
My my older sister step. She is into all the stuff that you were talking about, like the the demonology books and like all that stuff.
00:35:03 Natashia Mack
My God, the.
00:35:04 Natashia Mack
All this like exorcism stuff and I.
00:35:06 Penny Guilford
Really. No. No, no. Like, so scared.
00:35:08 Penny Guilford
Yeah, she was into all that.
00:35:11 Natashia Mack
And she definitely had experiences.
00:35:13 Natashia Mack
But yeah, growing up, you know, and religious.
00:35:17 Natashia Mack
My grandfather, being a Deacon, like going to church every Sunday and everything.
00:35:22 Natashia Mack
There's just things that felt like.
00:35:25 Natashia Mack
I obviously couldn't get like answers for or even too scared to talk about 'cause. No one else was talking about it.
00:35:33 Natashia Mack
Things like that or you do bring up certain things, and again, you're kind of getting shut down and things like that, maybe because they just didn't know.
00:35:42 Natashia Mack
How to how to deal with it you know?
00:35:47 Natashia Mack
Anyways.
00:35:49 Natashia Mack
For the.
00:35:49 Speaker 3
It's like in religion, especially you're taught.
00:35:52 Speaker 3
It's all of the devil.
00:35:53 Speaker 3
It's all demons and evil and wonder like, and I like. No, it's really not though.
00:36:00 Speaker 3
I mean the work I do is of God.
00:36:04 Speaker 3
Know all these connections and things.
00:36:07 Speaker 3
It's like it's not evil at all.
00:36:09 Natashia Mack
Exactly, I completely agree.
00:36:12 Natashia Mack
I see how God works through all of these experiences and the healing that takes place is just.
00:36:22 Natashia Mack
It's just insane.
00:36:24 Natashia Mack
It's incredible. And you know, as a medium just.
00:36:24 Speaker 3
Yeah.
00:36:27 Natashia Mack
Like.
00:36:29 Natashia Mack
The closure it brings the peace it brings.
00:36:31
Mm.
00:36:34 Natashia Mack
I've noticed.
00:36:38 Natashia Mack
Like.
00:36:41 Natashia Mack
Yeah, I have to say when.
00:36:45 Natashia Mack
The there's been a few readings I've done for men.
00:36:49 Natashia Mack
Where they.
00:36:52 Natashia Mack
You know how much men carry like, yes, women. We carry a lot.
00:36:56 Natashia Mack
I mean, I find men have a tendency to really hold.
00:37:02 Natashia Mack
On to so much. And they hold it in like they don't talk about those things with their buddies or whatever. Like they and then they blow up.
00:37:10 Natashia Mack
You know, whatever.
00:37:11 Natashia Mack
So anyways, there's been a few readings I've done with men.
00:37:16 Natashia Mack
Where the this the readings were just so incredible.
00:37:22 Natashia Mack
That and there's so many tears and so much relief and closure, whatever but that.
00:37:30 Natashia Mack
Like those moments?
00:37:31 Natashia Mack
Is what made me realize not realize, but what's the word?
00:37:36 Natashia Mack
Solidified the belief that like.
00:37:40 Natashia Mack
God is part of this.
00:37:42 Speaker 3
Yeah.
00:37:42 Natashia Mack
There's no way in hell.
00:37:49 Natashia Mack
That this is like an evil thing. There can't.
00:37:52 Natashia Mack
Can't be there's no way.
00:37:53 Speaker 3
Yeah, there's so much healing and closure in mediumship sessions that it's like, I don't understand how people can see it as anything but good, you know?
00:38:05 Natashia Mack
Yeah. Have you ever seen that?
00:38:09 Natashia Mack
There was a video going.
00:38:12 Natashia Mack
Going around on Instagram like I know you love memes too, and you love like funny videos.
00:38:18 Natashia Mack
My God, there's this medium.
00:38:19 Natashia Mack
Think it was Sean.
00:38:23 Natashia Mack
So Sean Connery is that his name?
00:38:25 Natashia Mack
Anyways, there's a medium I think he's in the UK or something, but he he did like a funny reel of like pretending to be a demon and.
00:38:37 Natashia Mack
Saying like, you know what I'm gonna do today? I'm gonna like.
00:38:42 Natashia Mack
Like speak through a medium and I'm gonna.
00:38:46 Natashia Mack
Say all of these wonderful, beautiful things that are just.
00:38:49 Penny Guilford
So much healing and.
00:38:52 Penny Guilford
That's that's what I'm.
00:38:53 Penny Guilford
Do today.
00:38:57 Natashia Mack
And the video just cracked me up so much.
00:39:00 Natashia Mack
Oh my God, I'm so, you know, I shared a moment or.
00:39:04 Natashia Mack
Shared about.
00:39:08 Natashia Mack
You know how I have those moments and or sorry, it was my readings with with men that really helped solidify that in me.
00:39:16 Natashia Mack
I'm curious if there was like a moment not to put you on the spot, but if there's a moment or some moments for you where that just kind of really solidified it for you.
00:39:28 Speaker 3
I'll say when I had a reading done for myself, not.
00:39:32 Speaker 3
That I did.
00:39:33 Speaker 3
In 2020, with this medium.
00:39:36 Speaker 3
Her name is Jenny Michelle.
00:39:37 Speaker 3
Amazing.
00:39:39 Natashia Mack
Oh, I'll check her out.
00:39:40
But.
00:39:41 Speaker 3
All these names.
00:39:42 Speaker 3
All this stuff like it, like, blew my mind.
00:39:46 Speaker 3
I've never had a reading like that.
00:39:48 Speaker 3
Incredible, but.
00:39:52 Speaker 3
That was like I always knew that there was more, but that kind of like solidified to me like.
00:39:59 Speaker 3
The shit's real.
00:40:01 Speaker 3
Like there's no way.
00:40:03 Speaker 3
Anybody could have any of this up like that?
00:40:06 Speaker 3
No amount of like Googling or.
00:40:07 Speaker 3
Like you can't find that stuff, you know? And that's really what you know.
00:40:14 Speaker 3
It for.
00:40:14 Speaker 3
And then I was doing it myself and getting things right. And I'm just like, OK, so I'm not making this stuff up.
00:40:20 Speaker 3
It is real, it is happening.
00:40:24 Natashia Mack
Exactly.
00:40:26
Well.
00:40:30 Natashia Mack
Yeah, I love that.
00:40:31 Natashia Mack
Trying to think.
00:40:36 Natashia Mack
I don't know if I've had if I've personally experienced a reading like that yet.
00:40:43 Natashia Mack
I know that sounds so.
00:40:45 Natashia Mack
I've had, like so many readings, I've had a lot of people like practice on me and whatever, but I haven't had, like, my own personal.
00:40:55 Natashia Mack
I'm trying to recall now. 'cause. I'm like. Oh, no, I better.
00:40:58 Natashia Mack
I better like make sure I'm being truthful here, but yeah, I don't think I've like paid for a session and like sat and.
00:41:09 Natashia Mack
Had like this super mind blowing experience yet, I really hope to someday.
00:41:14
Mm.
00:41:17 Natashia Mack
And especially now to that, you know my my Mama and my Papa, like my grandparents, have passed on.
00:41:26 Natashia Mack
But I'm hoping that someday I'll be like, OK.
00:41:29 Natashia Mack
The medium for me.
00:41:30 Natashia Mack
Whatever you know.
00:41:31
Yeah.
00:41:33 Natashia Mack
I've heard Danielle say.
00:41:36 Natashia Mack
I think that's how you say her last name, Squamish Medium.
00:41:39 Natashia Mack
Heard her talk about.
00:41:43 Natashia Mack
Oh my God.
00:41:43 Natashia Mack
Indigenous medium Sean Leonard she.
00:41:46 Natashia Mack
That was the most accurate reading that she's ever had.
00:41:50 Natashia Mack
Are you familiar with him?
00:41:53 Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah.
00:41:56 Speaker 3
But I think he has a book.
00:41:57 Speaker 3
Now, doesn't he? Yeah.
00:41:57 Natashia Mack
Yeah, he does.
00:42:00 Natashia Mack
Yeah, I left.
00:42:00 Speaker 3
I've seen from a pic like stuff on Facebook and I don't have the channel down here in America, so I can't watch a show but.
00:42:08 Penny Guilford
What the heck?
00:42:10 Penny Guilford
You guys don't get APTN.
00:42:14 Natashia Mack
Oh, that's too bad.
00:42:16 Natashia Mack
Yeah, I once travelled to Thunder Bay, which is 12 hours from where I live to go see him live.
00:42:25
Oh wow.
00:42:26 Natashia Mack
My tailbone still has not recovered from that.
00:42:28 Penny Guilford
Trip.
00:42:31 Natashia Mack
But yeah, he was really good. I find his thing is like names. Like, if you're someone who wants to like.
00:42:39 Natashia Mack
See someone share names 100% accurately holy **** like.
00:42:46 Natashia Mack
I wish like that's why.
00:42:48 Penny Guilford
Right.
00:42:49 Natashia Mack
Yeah, it's.
00:42:50 Natashia Mack
He'd be like I have a.
00:42:52 Natashia Mack
Cheryl and Susanna, with me. And then someone would raise their hand, and then he would, like, go on with the.
00:43:00 Natashia Mack
And I'm like, what the ****?
00:43:03 Speaker 3
I'm lucky if I can get a name.
00:43:06 Speaker 3
You know name, but I think so something.
00:43:06 Penny Guilford
Oh, heart.
00:43:09 Speaker 3
I've read and kind of developed to be true to myself is like the way we communicate personally, like in our lives is like how?
00:43:20 Penny Guilford
Yeah.
00:43:20 Speaker 3
Do.
00:43:21 Speaker 3
And at names like I will forget in two seconds what your name.
00:43:26 Speaker 3
You just told me.
00:43:28 Speaker 3
So it makes sense, but I would not get names.
00:43:32 Speaker 3
It's easy to talk to dead people than it is live people so.
00:43:36 Natashia Mack
Actually though it it is.
00:43:38 Speaker 3
It's a whole other language.
00:43:40 Speaker 3
Because they're showing you.
00:43:41
Like.
00:43:42 Speaker 3
These pictures in your head and you're like, OK.
00:43:45 Speaker 3
What?
00:43:45 Speaker 3
What does that?
00:43:46 Speaker 3
You know I have no.
00:43:47 Speaker 3
So you just have to say what?
00:43:50 Speaker 3
What you're seeing, and it might be something completely different than what you.
00:43:54 Speaker 3
So it's like you can't interpret these symbols, you have to just say them like, OK, at the farm or you know.
00:44:00 Speaker 3
I mean like it.
00:44:00
Yeah.
00:44:03 Natashia Mack
Exactly.
00:44:06 Natashia Mack
Yeah, OK, my my mind just went blank, but I just thought.
00:44:14 Natashia Mack
I'd love if you could share.
00:44:18 Natashia Mack
A couple stories now, like the one that you sent in, and if you have another one.
00:44:23 Penny Guilford
The worst?
00:44:23 Penny Guilford
That was OK.
00:44:25 Natashia Mack
It's about the bird in the window, the bird going into the window.
00:44:27 Penny Guilford
And.
00:44:28 Natashia Mack
Know it was a long time ago.
00:44:31 Speaker 3
OK. Yeah.
00:44:35 Speaker 3
So my mom passed away from cancer in 2021.
00:44:40 Speaker 3
And.
00:44:42 Speaker 3
I took a couple weeks off work after that.
00:44:46
Run.
00:44:46 Speaker 3
So it was a little while between, you know, when she died, to when the funeral was. And I just needed time.
00:44:52 Speaker 3
So I was at home by myself.
00:44:56 Speaker 3
Kids were in.
00:44:58 Speaker 3
I think they were still in daycare at the time. Maybe school.
00:45:00 Speaker 3
Can't remember what is what is years.
00:45:05 Penny Guilford
Actually though.
00:45:07 Speaker 3
So I was home by.
00:45:09 Speaker 3
Just watching whatever stupid TV show and a friend of mine had made.
00:45:16 Speaker 3
Enchiladas for me 'cause. She made a couple like meal prep type things for me. 'cause. You know, that's what you do when somebody.
00:45:21 Speaker 3
You make them food.
00:45:22 Natashia Mack
Of course.
00:45:22 Speaker 3
So I had it in the oven.
00:45:26 Speaker 3
Was like.
00:45:27 Speaker 3
We'll just do this for dinner tonight.
00:45:29 Speaker 3
And you know, I'm just sitting there watching my show, not paying attention anything.
00:45:34 Speaker 3
And this bird. So we have this, like, huge window in our living room. It's like a big arch window.
00:45:41 Speaker 3
This bird.
00:45:42 Speaker 3
Flies into the window and I'm like.
00:45:46 Speaker 3
You OK?
00:45:48 Penny Guilford
I went outside to check on it.
00:45:49 Speaker 3
I didn't see it, so it must've.
00:45:51 Speaker 3
You know, gone and flown off. Whatever.
00:45:55 Speaker 3
But I was like.
00:45:56 Speaker 3
Well, I'm up now, so let me go check on these enchiladas.
00:46:00 Speaker 3
I open the oven door and it is on fire.
00:46:07 Penny Guilford
Enchilada.
00:46:09 Penny Guilford
Hello.
00:46:10 Speaker 3
Apparently something was wrong with the.
00:46:12 Speaker 3
We had to get a completely new oven after that or something along with the heating element. I don't know, but of course dumb me.
00:46:17 Speaker 3
Don't have any kind of fire extinguisher or anything.
00:46:20 Speaker 3
So I'm getting like filling up a bowl of water and like throwing water into my oven.
00:46:27 Penny Guilford
But.
00:46:28 Speaker 3
No, the smoke alarm.
00:46:29 Speaker 3
Go off and I'm like if I would have sat there.
00:46:32 Speaker 3
And kept watching this stupid show. I could have burned my whole house down and not even known it. So for me, so my mom, she always sends me dragonflies and birds.
00:46:42 Speaker 3
To me, that was my mom saying get your *** out of the chair and check on this burning food.
00:46:51 Penny Guilford
I love that.
00:46:52 Natashia Mack
I love that she's still telling you what to.
00:46:53 Penny Guilford
Do even on the other side.
00:46:57 Penny Guilford
What the hell you doing?
00:46:59 Penny Guilford
Get your *** up.
00:47:00 Natashia Mack
I love that. Oh, it's.
00:47:05 Natashia Mack
Yeah.
00:47:06 Natashia Mack
How much our loved one could support us?
00:47:10 Natashia Mack
From the other side like.
00:47:14 Natashia Mack
Just insane.
00:47:18 Natashia Mack
Yeah.
00:47:20 Natashia Mack
The was it last week.
00:47:23 Natashia Mack
You probably saw this.
00:47:25 Natashia Mack
And I don't think I talked about it on here because.
00:47:29 Natashia Mack
This was, yeah, yeah.
00:47:31 Natashia Mack
This just happened.
00:47:32 Natashia Mack
The juicy fruit story.
00:47:37 Natashia Mack
Yeah.
00:47:38 Natashia Mack
Oh my God, it's a terrible.
00:47:39 Natashia Mack
Also, my brain is still recovering from all the anesthesia I was under and everything, so it's just a little bit.
00:47:45
And.
00:47:46 Natashia Mack
Anyways, OK.
00:47:48 Natashia Mack
Again, the other day before going to a big appointment to the the Cancer Center.
00:47:58 Natashia Mack
I I had to go into my medicine cabinet.
00:48:01 Natashia Mack
I think I was looking for the thermometer for my kid.
00:48:02
To.
00:48:04 Natashia Mack
So I open it up.
00:48:06 Natashia Mack
And I moved a couple things around, but there was.
00:48:09 Natashia Mack
A pack of.
00:48:10 Natashia Mack
Like unopened, juicy fried gum that I had literally never seen before.
00:48:15 Natashia Mack
We don't eat juicy fruga like we don't buy.
00:48:18 Natashia Mack
Like I don't know where this would have came from, but I was like.
00:48:21 Natashia Mack
That's.
00:48:22 Natashia Mack
And it made me think right away of my paternal grandfather, who's passed on.
00:48:28 Natashia Mack
He loved juicy fruit gum and that was like that was like his thing.
00:48:32 Natashia Mack
He always had gums 'cause. He was a smoker and everything too, so he always popped a gum in his mouth afterwards and he would give us a stick of gum. You know, his juicy fruit, whatever.
00:48:41 Natashia Mack
Anyways, saw that thought of him, but I just kind of, you know, mourning, getting ready with your kids and everything is like a whole.
00:48:49 Natashia Mack
Thing. So I would, yeah, just pure chaos, basically.
00:48:54 Natashia Mack
So yeah, I just like I I went into my.
00:48:56 Natashia Mack
I can't remember why, and my husband then walked into my room holding the pack of juicy fruit, and he's like, why is there a pack of juicy fruit in the medicine cabinet?
00:49:08 Natashia Mack
And I was like, yeah, I don't know.
00:49:10 Natashia Mack
I noticed that that's weird.
00:49:12 Natashia Mack
He's like also, it's from 2010.
00:49:16 Natashia Mack
I was like what?
00:49:19 Penny Guilford
Like, what do you mean?
00:49:21 Penny Guilford
And he shows.
00:49:21 Natashia Mack
Me. The date on it and literally says 2010.
00:49:24 Natashia Mack
Was like. That's so *******.
00:49:26 Natashia Mack
Like, how is that and in my mind, I'm like, OK, we've moved.
00:49:32 Natashia Mack
We've moved cities like that's older than my second oldest kid.
00:49:36 Natashia Mack
Like we.
00:49:37 Natashia Mack
We've moved several homes since 2010.
00:49:42 Natashia Mack
I clean that medicine cabinet many times, like it doesn't make any.
00:49:47 Natashia Mack
I'm gaslighting.
00:49:48 Natashia Mack
I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.
00:49:49 Penny Guilford
Yeah.
00:49:52 Natashia Mack
Anyway, so then you know, we're driving to my appointment and.
00:49:59 Natashia Mack
I'm messaging my sisters about it and I was like, I wonder when he passed on like I can't remember. And I was like, I know I was 19, OK?
00:50:06 Natashia Mack
Old was.
00:50:07 Natashia Mack
How what year was it when I was 19?
00:50:10 Natashia Mack
He passed in 2010.
00:50:12 Speaker 3
That's crazy.
00:50:14 Penny Guilford
Like what? How how did this happen?
00:50:17 Penny Guilford
You cannot make this **** up, but what?
00:50:20 Natashia Mack
Was so crazy.
00:50:23 Natashia Mack
So that happened that morning, and then the person sitting next to us got called like when I was at my appointment waiting.
00:50:31 Natashia Mack
Specialist and her name was Antoinette, which is my great grandmother's name.
00:50:37 Natashia Mack
Always comes around when like.
00:50:39 Natashia Mack
And.
00:50:40 Natashia Mack
Spiritual emotional support.
00:50:42 Natashia Mack
So I was like, OK, another sign. And I was like, watch. I'm gonna get bad news because everyone is showing up right now, giving me signs showing how supported I am.
00:50:55 Natashia Mack
Sure enough, sure enough, I received news like was heavy.
00:50:55
Oh man.
00:50:59 Natashia Mack
But still really.
00:51:02 Natashia Mack
Also, someone connected the dots for me, they're like.
00:51:08 Natashia Mack
He must be watching over your health or supporting you on your health journey because he he put it in the medicine cabinet. I hadn't even thought of that.
00:51:15 Natashia Mack
I was like.
00:51:17
Yeah.
00:51:18 Natashia Mack
How weird is that?
00:51:20 Speaker 3
That's so weird.
00:51:22 Natashia Mack
Have you ever, like, found something in a place that wasn't supposed to be there? Or, I don't know, have any more stories you want to share?
00:51:30 Speaker 3
None.
00:51:32 Speaker 3
I can't think of anything that I've found.
00:51:33 Speaker 3
Mean I do find.
00:51:35 Speaker 3
Random coins that I think probably a lot of people experience that are feathers or.
00:51:40
Right.
00:51:41 Speaker 3
Well, there was one time, so I don't go to church often. Every once in a while I go to church.
00:51:46 Speaker 3
But you know, my mom was very religious and.
00:51:51 Speaker 3
There was one time that I was at church and they were playing.
00:51:54 Speaker 3
You know, whatever song I remember what the song was, but.
00:51:58 Speaker 3
Like you know, when you're in a reading, you just get that weird feeling in your head that you're not quite here.
00:52:04 Speaker 3
Like I don't know if you feel that too, but.
00:52:08 Speaker 3
So I got that feeling and then I saw like, physically in front of me a white feather like float down from the ceiling. That was like.
00:52:20 Speaker 3
Goosebumps moment.
00:52:22
Oh.
00:52:24 Speaker 3
So that was really cool.
00:52:29 Speaker 3
I guess another tangent I'll go on is like, so you know when you're a kid, you think, oh, these mediums, they're like seeing dead people.
00:52:36 Speaker 3
The time and I guess some people do.
00:52:38 Speaker 3
Right.
00:52:39 Speaker 3
But for me, and again I'm an introvert and not a people.
00:52:44 Speaker 3
So I can go freak me out if I saw dead people all the time, but I have seen like full body apparitions of people before. Like there's one.
00:52:54 Speaker 3
Old man that I've seen like three times in my house and I don't think it's some guy that died here or whatever.
00:53:00 Speaker 3
The people that lived here before us were the first owners and I don't think anybody ever died in this House. But I don't know who he is, but I've seen him three times.
00:53:10 Speaker 3
And it's just randomly. Like one day I was walking out of the bedroom door and, like, right next to the bedroom door is just the end of the hallway. And like, he was right there, like, next to me. And I looked over and course he disappeared. Do you?
00:53:24 Speaker 3
It like out of the corner of your eye.
00:53:26 Speaker 3
And.
00:53:28 Speaker 3
My husband walked down the hallway.
00:53:29 Speaker 3
Like, are you OK?
00:53:32 Speaker 3
Like I literally just saw ghosts.
00:53:35 Penny Guilford
The expression like literally.
00:53:39 Speaker 3
Oh yeah, it's.
00:53:40 Speaker 3
It's just random when I see like full body apparitions of people and.
00:53:46 Speaker 3
I do think it's because.
00:53:48 Speaker 3
I wouldn't want to see people.
00:53:51 Penny Guilford
I think that would be exhausting.
00:53:56 Natashia Mack
I think so too.
00:53:58 Natashia Mack
I I totally agree.
00:53:59 Natashia Mack
I I.
00:54:02 Natashia Mack
Do you feel like he could be connected to your husband?
00:54:06 Speaker 3
I don't know.
00:54:08
I don't know.
00:54:09 Natashia Mack
I just kind of got that bad.
00:54:09 Penny Guilford
Probable he's got like.
00:54:11 Speaker 3
You know, grandparents have passed on and whatever.
00:54:15 Speaker 3
I.
00:54:15 Speaker 3
I don't recognize him, but it's possible.
00:54:18 Speaker 3
He could be connected.
00:54:20 Natashia Mack
That's so interesting.
00:54:21 Natashia Mack
Just how they can just kind of show up and you're like, oh, hey, there you are, you know.
00:54:29 Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah.
00:54:31 Natashia Mack
Or yeah, yeah. Go for it.
00:54:31 Speaker 3
Another.
00:54:34 Speaker 3
You take a sip of water.
00:54:35 Natashia Mack
Oh, good idea.
00:54:36 Natashia Mack
I should do that too.
00:54:38 Speaker 3
I'll go in another tangent.
00:54:42 Speaker 3
So this was like this was also 20/21. It was like a couple months after my mom passed.
00:54:53 Speaker 3
I started getting.
00:54:55 Speaker 3
It was so weird. But like, like sleep paralysis and like, I've never had sleep paralysis in my life.
00:55:03 Speaker 3
So, but it was strange because.
00:55:06 Speaker 3
I was laying there in bed.
00:55:08 Speaker 3
On my side 'cause I was sleep on my.
00:55:10 Speaker 3
And it was like I couldn't move my body and I heard, like this loud, almost like electrical sound. And I was like, am I having a seizure right now?
00:55:22 Speaker 3
'Cause then my whole body started vibrating.
00:55:26 Speaker 3
And I couldn't move and it lasted like I.
00:55:30 Speaker 3
Maybe 30 seconds like it wasn't long, but it freaked me. **** out and I was doing all this research.
00:55:37 Speaker 3
What is happening and this happened to me three times and.
00:55:42 Speaker 3
The third time I saw at the end of it this like.
00:55:48 Speaker 3
Giant.
00:55:50 Speaker 3
Shadow person, like just hovering above my bed.
00:55:54
Oh.
00:55:55 Speaker 3
And of course I couldn't move.
00:55:57 Speaker 3
You can't yell.
00:55:58 Speaker 3
So I said in my brain.
00:56:00 Speaker 3
Was like in the name of Jesus. Leave me.
00:56:04 Penny Guilford
Literally same.
00:56:07 Speaker 3
And it it left and I've never experienced anything like that since and I'm like, was that just sleep paralysis or at the time I was reading a book about this guy who was doing astral projection?
00:56:25 Speaker 3
And I don't know if maybe that triggered something, but I was reading like on this.
00:56:30 Speaker 3
I don't know, but on like Facebook or something, somebody that said when they start to astral project like their entire body just vibrates. And I'm like, was I starting this process and then?
00:56:42 Speaker 3
You know, in the name of Jesus, I made it go away, but it was so strange. Like I've never.
00:56:46 Natashia Mack
Wow.
00:56:48 Penny Guilford
I don't like.
00:56:49 Speaker 3
I don't know what to think of.
00:56:50 Speaker 3
Like.
00:56:50 Speaker 3
I don't know if that was the sleep paralysis or.
00:56:54 Speaker 3
But then again, I asked for it to stop and it stopped and it's never happened since.
00:56:58 Speaker 3
It was just three times over the span of a couple months.
00:57:01 Speaker 3
Just randomly happened.
00:57:03
So.
00:57:04 Natashia Mack
Wow, that like, gave me the chills.
00:57:05
Yeah.
00:57:10 Natashia Mack
Yeah, I'm, like literally the same though. Like in the night, if I get scared or spooked, whatever I I just call up for.
00:57:17 Natashia Mack
And I'm good.
00:57:17 Penny Guilford
He.
00:57:17 Penny Guilford
Like he's he's my man.
00:57:20 Natashia Mack
I know I can count on him.
00:57:24 Penny Guilford
Work like a charm every time.
00:57:26 Penny Guilford
It only works.
00:57:27 Penny Guilford
It does.
00:57:28 Natashia Mack
It does, absolutely.
00:57:30 Natashia Mack
So I love.
00:57:31 Natashia Mack
I love that you shared that and maybe someone needs to hear that too.
00:57:35 Natashia Mack
I I I believe I do have some listeners who experience sleep paralysis, but like don't know.
00:57:42 Natashia Mack
What to do? And you know, obviously you can't really go talk to the doctor about it or if.
00:57:46 Natashia Mack
Do.
00:57:47 Natashia Mack
Mean you can.
00:57:49 Natashia Mack
I'm not saying you can't. I'm just saying.
00:57:52 Natashia Mack
A lot of people probably don't, is what I'm saying.
00:57:54 Speaker 3
It sounds crazy like your body is frozen.
00:57:55 Natashia Mack
It does.
00:57:57 Speaker 3
I was like my whole body was just vibrating and I was hearing this weird sounds like I I really thought I was having a seizure.
00:58:04 Natashia Mack
Wow.
00:58:06 Penny Guilford
It's so bizarre.
00:58:09 Natashia Mack
That is bizarre.
00:58:10 Natashia Mack
I've definitely had moments of like.
00:58:14 Natashia Mack
My body vibrating unexplainably.
00:58:17 Natashia Mack
Well, sorry in the moment I didn't know why.
00:58:22 Natashia Mack
But I was able to connect it to like my vibration just being raised so high that I was physically vibrating.
00:58:36 Natashia Mack
So that's really interesting.
00:58:39 Natashia Mack
You know, just yeah, really makes me wonder. But this one time, you know, on that topic of like your body vibrating. And I probably share this story.
00:58:52 Natashia Mack
This was before I knew I was a medium.
00:58:55 Natashia Mack
My third was a baby at the time, so this would've been in, like 2014. Twenty. Yeah, 2014. Anyway. So we were actually at my grandma's.
00:59:06 Natashia Mack
We were spending the night there, 'cause. We lived from out of town, so we're spending the night there there with her and my pupil were still living at the time.
00:59:15 Natashia Mack
But I remember I was sharing a bed and I was still, but I was sharing a.
00:59:20 Natashia Mack
With my.
00:59:21 Natashia Mack
Baby, at the time, he was like.
00:59:24 Natashia Mack
Almost toddler anyways.
00:59:27 Natashia Mack
And.
00:59:29 Natashia Mack
I don't know if it was a full moon or something that night, but I just like.
00:59:34 Natashia Mack
Had such a hard time sleeping and you know when you're kind of asleep but not really like you just can't sink into a super deep sleep.
00:59:44 Natashia Mack
So that was happening.
00:59:46 Natashia Mack
But then I I remember.
00:59:50 Natashia Mack
My whole body just vibrating and I didn't understand what was happening and I felt like I was making this up at the time.
00:59:59 Natashia Mack
I remember seeing all of my grandma's siblings, who were all dead.
01:00:07 Natashia Mack
Around the bed, like they were just all around the bed.
01:00:08 Speaker 3
Oh wow.
01:00:12 Natashia Mack
And I could hear in my.
01:00:14 Natashia Mack
So This is why like I was gaslighting myself, I was like, there's no way this could be real. Like, this is crazy.
01:00:20 Natashia Mack
Yeah, but now I realize what was happening so I could hear them in my mind saying.
01:00:25 Natashia Mack
Oh my.
01:00:26 Natashia Mack
She looks just like her mom and like, look at that sweet baby like they're having a full blown conversation.
01:00:37
Wow.
01:00:37 Natashia Mack
And I'm here not knowing I'm a media.
01:00:42 Natashia Mack
What is happening like this is so weird and just kind of being out of it. And again my freaking body was just buzzing like vibrating so hard. I don't know how that didn't wake up the baby and.
01:00:56 Natashia Mack
Anyways, at one point I just had to like say it to them. Like OK, if this is real.
01:01:03 Natashia Mack
I really need to go to bed.
01:01:05 Penny Guilford
And I really need like.
01:01:07 Penny Guilford
For coming.
01:01:08 Penny Guilford
Love you guys.
01:01:09 Penny Guilford
Is tired.
01:01:10 Penny Guilford
Goodbye. Like I'm a mom of three.
01:01:14 Natashia Mack
I can really use some sleep before this.
01:01:16 Natashia Mack
Wakes up.
01:01:19 Natashia Mack
You know, please, like, could you guys go away and then it stopped?
01:01:24 Natashia Mack
They.
01:01:24 Natashia Mack
The vibrating stopped and I was able to go to sleep.
01:01:30 Natashia Mack
And then the next morning, I was like, like my grandma. And she, like, was making her, you know, coffee and her toast and whatever.
01:01:37 Natashia Mack
I was like, so grandma.
01:01:41 Natashia Mack
Just was like, I think all of your siblings visited me in the night. I could be crazy.
01:01:47 Natashia Mack
Could maybe maybe it didn't actually happen.
01:01:50 Penny Guilford
But this is what happened.
01:01:54 Natashia Mack
It was so wild, but.
01:01:56 Natashia Mack
Now being a medium I'm I'm like.
01:02:01 Natashia Mack
My vibration was so high because there was like.
01:02:07 Natashia Mack
Loved ones in spirit at the foot of my bed like.
01:02:11 Natashia Mack
I like my energy was responding and reacting to being in their presence or them being in my presence, whatever.
01:02:19 Natashia Mack
So anyways, that's what that made me think of.
01:02:22 Natashia Mack
So crazy.
01:02:22 Speaker 3
Interesting. You bring that up because so Jenny who I mentioned earlier, we're we're friends now. You know, over the years. And I asked her about it one time.
01:02:32 Speaker 3
Was like.
01:02:34 Speaker 3
What the hell was this, like shadow thing over me? And she's like, I think it was Mother Mary and.
01:02:37
Sing.
01:02:43 Speaker 3
Weird. I have such a weird connection with Mother Mary. Like I'm not Catholic or anything, but just have such a connection with her.
01:02:51 Speaker 3
I had another I love getting ratings for myself, but with.
01:02:54
Yeah.
01:02:56 Speaker 3
Oh, Anthony maraca.
01:02:59 Natashia Mack
I love.
01:02:59 Natashia Mack
I love him so much.
01:03:01 Speaker 3
Yes. So I had a reading with.
01:03:02 Speaker 3
I actually have had two both times. He has brought up Mother Mary 'cause. He also has a connection with her and he's like, I think you have this connection with Mother Mary.
01:03:11 Speaker 3
And I think.
01:03:14 Speaker 3
That's so crazy to.
01:03:16 Speaker 3
That something that spiritual high up would visit me. You know what I mean?
01:03:22 Speaker 3
It's so weird to me.
01:03:26 Natashia Mack
You are so worthy of.
01:03:28 Natashia Mack
Oh my God, we we all are.
01:03:31 Natashia Mack
All her children.
01:03:34 Natashia Mack
I have to tell you something really crazy though about that.
01:03:36 Speaker 3
OK.
01:03:37 Natashia Mack
So do you see how the tapestry behind you?
01:03:42 Natashia Mack
Looks like a crown around your head.
01:03:44
Julie.
01:03:45 Natashia Mack
Yes, and the baby blue and everything. I was like like this. Reminds me of Mother Mary.
01:03:53 Penny Guilford
Like I actually thought that in the beginning when we.
01:03:56 Penny Guilford
First got on here.
01:03:59 Natashia Mack
That wild.
01:04:01 Natashia Mack
Wow.
01:04:03 Natashia Mack
That's really cool.
01:04:04 Natashia Mack
OK, wait. Oh, yeah. So if it was Mother Mary hovering above you, that would make sense. Why your vibration?
01:04:11 Penny Guilford
Yeah, I would make sense why I would be vibrating.
01:04:12 Natashia Mack
Was just like insanely high.
01:04:14 Speaker 3
So yeah. Yeah. Thank you for connecting that dot for me.
01:04:16 Natashia Mack
Wow.
01:04:19 Natashia Mack
Yeah, no.
01:04:21 Natashia Mack
And I mean, maybe other people listening have also had that experience where they're just like, Oh my God, like my body.
01:04:27 Natashia Mack
Know why am I like?
01:04:28
Oh.
01:04:30 Speaker 3
And you know when.
01:04:30 Speaker 3
Before I did all the mediumship stuff like.
01:04:34 Speaker 3
I used to have panic attacks a lot, especially my early 20s and teens, and looking back on it now like, yes, I have anxiety, but I also think part of it like if I go into a grocery store, I feel like I want.
01:04:48 Speaker 3
Flip the **** out.
01:04:49 Speaker 3
Because.
01:04:50 Speaker 3
There's so much energy, and I think part of that was I couldn't manage my energy with other people's energy.
01:04:59 Speaker 3
Then there's all the spirit people around them and it's like.
01:05:03 Speaker 3
Everybody's trying to get my attention and I feel like.
01:05:05 Speaker 3
A lot of.
01:05:06 Speaker 3
Former, like anxiety, was actually just spirit, just too much spirit around.
01:05:13 Natashia Mack
Yes. Yes, it's that spirit energy, right? It it does feel like anxiety 100% and like I I talk about that often to people who.
01:05:17
Yeah.
01:05:26 Natashia Mack
Like I I just.
01:05:27 Natashia Mack
I bring it up often, like at my, you know, events and stuff like that, because sometimes that's what it is and that's what I experience.
01:05:34
Yeah.
01:05:34 Natashia Mack
Experience. And when you're in the beginning stages of development, like, have you noticed a difference between now versus when you started out?
01:05:45 Natashia Mack
Almost like it took time for your vibration and your energy to adjust to spirit energy.
01:05:45
Thank you.
01:05:51 Natashia Mack
Have you noticed a big difference?
01:05:54 Speaker 3
Yeah. And I can tell.
01:05:55 Speaker 3
Like what is mine versus what is somebody else?
01:05:59 Natashia Mack
Exactly. And so Can you imagine how many people are walking around not realizing?
01:06:05
It has no idea they.
01:06:06 Penny Guilford
Have no ******* idea.
01:06:08 Natashia Mack
I've had no idea.
01:06:10 Natashia Mack
I had no idea when when I was slowly like.
01:06:10
Yeah.
01:06:15 Natashia Mack
You know when God, when spirit was like working on me to, like, help me realize this path.
01:06:24 Natashia Mack
The amount of anxiety I had it increased tenfold.
01:06:28 Natashia Mack
It's like my sensitivity was literally dialed up to an extreme right after I had my daughter.
01:06:36 Natashia Mack
That was like the big like Catalyst, right?
01:06:40 Natashia Mack
And I was like, Oh my God, I can't go outside anymore.
01:06:44 Natashia Mack
Like I actually planned in my head.
01:06:46 Natashia Mack
I'm gonna not.
01:06:49 Natashia Mack
Go see people anymore because it got to the point where going in the grocery store, if I saw someone I knew.
01:06:56 Natashia Mack
My my brain would just go completely blank like I would have so much.
01:07:02 Natashia Mack
You know, like my body would be buzzing sometimes and I had no idea what was going on.
01:07:07 Natashia Mack
Now I realized like, oh, their loved one was trying to replace my thoughts with.
01:07:12 Natashia Mack
No big deal.
01:07:13 Natashia Mack
It's totally fine. Yeah, but at the time I I was like, this is, I guess this is my life now.
01:07:14 Penny Guilford
Yeah.
01:07:19 Natashia Mack
I'm just gonna.
01:07:20 Natashia Mack
Be.
01:07:21 Natashia Mack
A super anxious, awkward person who like can't be around people.
01:07:27 Natashia Mack
And like, it's so sad because I bet you there are literally people out there who've also decided that for themselves and literally don't realize, like, actually, I'm so highly sensitive and there is a way to work through this.
01:07:34 Speaker 3
Right.
01:07:43 Natashia Mack
There are ways to help yourself through it.
01:07:46 Natashia Mack
Just like we learned right, we learned over time and and like you said, it's better now.
01:07:52 Natashia Mack
Because you know the.
01:07:54 Natashia Mack
But a lot of people do not know the difference and I'm making my mission this year to really teach that and I'm.
01:08:00 Penny Guilford
Really excited about that.
01:08:02 Natashia Mack
Just going to plug that in there because it's it just came through so naturally.
01:08:06 Natashia Mack
Like, yeah, it's it.
01:08:09 Natashia Mack
'S more people need to know that that, like you're not crazy.
01:08:11
Mm.
01:08:14 Natashia Mack
Your anxiety is probably just totally blown up because you're so sensitive to spirit energy, so I'm really glad to be talked about that for sure.
01:08:24 Speaker 3
Yeah.
01:08:28 Natashia Mack
And I want to be mindful.
01:08:29 Natashia Mack
The time 'cause I know we've been haunting.
01:08:31 Natashia Mack
Feel.
01:08:32 Natashia Mack
I feel like we went through.
01:08:33 Natashia Mack
Kind of time portal.
01:08:36 Penny Guilford
Like.
01:08:36 Penny Guilford
How has it been that that?
01:08:37 Natashia Mack
That long?
01:08:38 Natashia Mack
So yeah, let's end it on that note 'cause, I know we could literally talk forever and probably have a million more stories to share, but so maybe in the future we'll have to do a Part 2.
01:08:48 Penny Guilford
Right.
01:08:50 Natashia Mack
Oh yeah. But I would love before we hop off. I would love if you can.
01:08:56 Natashia Mack
Share two things. So one.
01:08:59 Natashia Mack
Is there just like a message on your heart?
01:09:02 Natashia Mack
It could be super random that you feel like someone needs to hear right now, or like, what would you say to the listeners right now?
01:09:10 Natashia Mack
And then two, I want you to share how.
01:09:12 Natashia Mack
Could.
01:09:12 Natashia Mack
You OK? OK.
01:09:15 Penny Guilford
So.
01:09:17 Speaker 3
This is kind of random, but I feel like someone listening needs to hear.
01:09:25 Speaker 3
You're gonna be given a lot of advice.
01:09:27 Speaker 3
It out the window.
01:09:29 Speaker 3
Do what works for you. Don't.
01:09:34 Speaker 3
Be burdened by other people's realities.
01:09:39 Natashia Mack
I love that.
01:09:41 Speaker 3
I don't know why that came through, but I feel like somebody needed.
01:09:43 Natashia Mack
But someone need to hear that absolutely.
01:09:47 Speaker 3
So you can find.
01:09:48 Speaker 3
I am on Instagram, mostly Facebook at Thepenny Guilford.
01:09:57 Speaker 3
I have a website pennyguilford.com.
01:10:00 Speaker 3
I try to do Instagram.
01:10:01 Speaker 3
I'm not always the best at it.
01:10:05 Penny Guilford
Like I have to schedule.
01:10:05 Natashia Mack
Sure, they're great.
01:10:07 Penny Guilford
Well, I have to schedule time or else.
01:10:09 Speaker 3
I'm just not going to do it.
01:10:12 Speaker 3
I like doing it when I.
01:10:13 Speaker 3
It it's just I need to get on.
01:10:17 Speaker 3
Lee, I'm on.
01:10:18 Speaker 3
I'll have to share funny memes and reels so ioffer, you know, mediumship readings, Oracle card reading.
01:10:28 Speaker 3
It's my sessions are like a mix of Oracle cards and mediumship.
01:10:34 Speaker 3
Just the.
01:10:35 Speaker 3
I work, it just works for me.
01:10:38
But yeah.
01:10:40 Natashia Mack
And you're on YouTube, aren't you?
01:10:40
That's.
01:10:42 Speaker 3
I am on YouTube, yes.
01:10:45 Speaker 3
Monthly spirit messages, so I am on YouTube.
01:10:47 Speaker 3
Look up medium Penny G Penny, Guilford.
01:10:51 Speaker 3
I should pop up.
01:10:52 Natashia Mack
OK.
01:10:54 Natashia Mack
That's awesome.
01:10:54 Speaker 3
I don't.
01:10:55 Speaker 3
I don't have Tiktok or anything like that, so it's just YouTube, Facebook, Instagram.
01:11:02 Natashia Mack
Perfect. And I'll make sure to add those links in the I think it's called show notes.
01:11:08 Natashia Mack
Yeah. So I'll add those in there. So people can find you.
01:11:11 Natashia Mack
Follow her, she.
01:11:13 Natashia Mack
A lot of funny memes, and I love it so much.
01:11:17 Natashia Mack
And.
01:11:19 Natashia Mack
What's the other thing?
01:11:22 Natashia Mack
Oh yes, and thank you for sharing about your services. And like, I love that you use Oracle cards with your mediumship sessions.
01:11:29 Natashia Mack
You know what they
01:11:30 Natashia Mack
There's a medium out there for everyone.
01:11:33 Natashia Mack
Like, not just one medium out there for everyone, but there is one out there for everyone and I think it's so beautiful. How?
01:11:41 Natashia Mack
Every medium is so unique because that's what that's what the people need.
01:11:47 Natashia Mack
And there are people who are in need of exactly what you have to offer.
01:11:50 Natashia Mack
I love that so much.
01:11:53 Natashia Mack
Thank you, Penny, for being on here with me and sharing some awesome stories.
01:11:59 Natashia Mack
Some some spooky some, you know, raise the hairs on your arms.
01:12:03 Natashia Mack
I love it so.
01:12:04 Natashia Mack
And yeah, thank you to my listeners for.
01:12:11 Natashia Mack
Listening along with us, I hope it felt like you were having a, you know, a friend date with us and definitely go reach out to Penny. If you are interested in.
01:12:22 Natashia Mack
Getting to know her.
01:12:23 Natashia Mack
Getting to know her services and give her follow, all right.
01:12:29 Natashia Mack
Bye guys.
The Hot Mess Medium Show Ep. 9 -Realistically SLAY Your Goals in 2025
Happy New Year!
In this episode I share a spirit-led message to support you (and possibly inspire you) in actually & realistically conquering your 2025 goals along with some easily digestible examples, my word for 2025 (and how to receive your own word) and a tiny sliver of my experience living in a delusional reality that led me to where I am now.
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Transcription:
00:00:00 Natashia Mack
Hey guys. Happy New year.
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I really, really hope that January has been treating you well so far.
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It feels so good to be recording right now.
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Has been a while.
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And I'm excited to just share with you a couple of messages.
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I really wanted to put something out there this week and so, but I didn't feel inspired to be honest.
00:00:32 Natashia Mack
You know, we're in well where I.
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It is winter, but also I'm in a.
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I'm in a personal season of winter and so I've been, you know, hibernating and a lot more.
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Word and.
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I'm also a projector and for me to feel inspired I often need invitations and I just haven't really.
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Gotten any?
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Because of this space that I'm in of just needing to rest and replenish and receive.
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And just kind of taking it easy, going with the flow sort of thing.
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Because I just had two big surgeries in the past.
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Month and 1/2.
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So yeah, that's kind of where I'm at.
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But again, I knew I wanted to put out something, so I was like, OK.
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I'm just going to sit here and kind of TuneIn to what wants to come through today for whoever is listening.
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So immediately when I tuned into sort of the energy, the energy.
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That's sort of.
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Around so many of us right now.
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The possibilities.
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Sort of thing.
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I was seeing how.
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Know 2025.
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I'm seeing a lot of.
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Space opening up.
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It's like I'll sing in my mind, this road up ahead and how this clearing is happening and justice like things are just opening up and more and more space is being created and as soon as I said that, I I.
00:02:27 Natashia Mack
Look down and I saw 222 for like 2 minutes and 22 seconds of recording.
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Anyways.
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And.
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So leaning more into that.
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There was this feeling of there being so many possibilities ahead.
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But how it truly is?
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Up to you.
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To.
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This is so weird.
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I've I've been hearing this song.
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On by Wilson Phillips.
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And so, like the lyrics, keep playing, you know, like it's time to break free from the chains. Like you got yourself.
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Into your own mess, but like that means that you have the ability and the power to like, get yourself out of it and.
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It's like I see.
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It's like I'm seeing myself and how I'm the one who kind of wrapped the chains around.
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So it's like I'm able to then unwrap the chains off of myself, but it's so uncomfortable, right? It's so uncomfortable.
00:03:50 Natashia Mack
It's like I'm hearing about developing self-discipline to like go out and get it to go do the thing to create the change that you want for yourself to create these new habits.
00:04:01 Natashia Mack
And I'm a little resistant talking about this because I don't believe in the whole like New year, new me like.
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I mean, do I wanna get into that?
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It's more of like we can obviously make these changes for ourselves at any time.
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That's kind of where I was going with that, but also.
00:04:26 Natashia Mack
Again, it's weird that there's a new year in the middle of winter when we're supposed to be more inward and more chill and kind of like is the word introspective. Like, I don't know.
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You're reflecting.
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You're kind of like taking it easy, right?
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Not a time to go out and.
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Do all these things or plant seeds and grow them and type of thing right?
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But nonetheless, we are also all in our own individual.
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Seasons, just like I explained, the season that I'm in. You might be in a completely different season of your life.
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You get to kind of gauge where you're at.
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Either way.
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I.
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I'm gonna kind of go back to what I was saying.
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Yeah, change is uncomfortable.
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Growth is uncomfortable.
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Creating new habits is uncomfortable.
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I mean, I fail at that all the time.
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Just going to be honest.
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You, you know, I'll. I'll do something for a few days and feel really good about it.
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Then I very slowly drift back into old ways. You.
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And then there's times where I do start something new and it totally sticks.
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As soon as I said that, I looked. It's 11:11.
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Love that so many synchronicities lately.
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Anyways so.
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There's like a balance that needs to be had between self-discipline but also showing yourself grace, right? Always.
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It's not about being.
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Super hard on yourself or super mean to yourself, but you also got to.
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Hold yourself accountable. Take responsibility, right?
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And I was actually just having a conversation with my daughter about that this morning about how.
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You know, when we choose to avoid certain things, that means we.
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Have to take responsibility for the.
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Outcome like what happens?
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Because I can't remember the word.
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You know when you do something and then there's consequences. There we go. Consequences. We have to deal with the consequences of our actions or lack thereof.
00:07:06 Natashia Mack
So you know, if there's things that you've been putting off for a long time.
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Organ avoiding just not doing, even though your intuition has been guiding you to do it, that sort of thing.
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There's going to be consequences, that's.
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That's like a very obvious thing.
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Eventually those things catch up to you, right?
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And I'm noticing that in my life right now, this isn't.
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Just like telling you what to do or how to live your life or calling you out.
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I'm literally relating to literally every word that I'm saying.
00:07:42 Natashia Mack
Anyways, so where are we going with this?
00:07:46 Natashia Mack
Oh yeah, I was hearing also that there's like, no magic pill that's gonna just, like, fix everything.
00:07:51 Natashia Mack
Right. We're always searching for like the fastest.
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Way of getting the results yet?
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If you think of it like that, that's not actually how it works.
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Yes, you know we can manifest.
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Yes, miracles.
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And yes, like spiritually, you know and energetically like, it's incredible. What could what you can achieve.
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With your mindset and.
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All that stuff, but at the same time.
00:08:29 Natashia Mack
We are humans living a human experience, and there are very real, very real life things that we have to do to experience real life results.
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And I just feel like so many of us are being called.
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To I say this.
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With, you know hesitating.
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We are being called to action.
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It doesn't mean. OK. Get up right now. Go run a marathon or whatever.
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No, that's not what I mean.
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We are being called to take action, but however, that looks like for you, right?
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What?
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Like what's on your heart right now?
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Are you being called to do?
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For some people, taking action means actually.
00:09:24 Natashia Mack
Like taking a break because that's what their intuition is being called is calling them to do right so.
00:09:34 Natashia Mack
That example is helpful.
00:09:39 Natashia Mack
And just, you know another thing here that's coming through is like being more intentional.
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Like OK.
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Let's say you chose a word for this year, right?
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Every year beginning of the year.
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I.
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I I put it out there to God that like, I'm open to receiving.
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My word for this year, and I'm very intentional about it and I don't force it.
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Don't force a word to come to.
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I'm not trying to pick a word and I don't choose it from my ego either.
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I'm like, OK, what word?
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Is my word for this year.
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And.
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This year for me, I God nourish, and that just felt so good.
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In my body and you know I am on a healing journey with my physical health and well, of course, with the physical health. You also got to take care of your mental, emotional, spiritual health, all that stuff.
00:10:49 Natashia Mack
So for this year, for me, my.
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My intention is to nourish myself my mind, my body and my soul.
00:11:00 Natashia Mack
Last year, my word was.
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Community and family.
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It was family, but I also felt like there was an aspect of community connected to it and wow, was that ever spot on for me.
00:11:18 Natashia Mack
And again, I didn't force those words. I didn't personally.
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Choose those.
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It's the words that came to me of of.
00:11:26 Natashia Mack
Like the medicine I'm gonna receive for that year. And, you know, last year it was all about community.
00:11:34 Natashia Mack
Did so many community events.
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I spent more time with my family.
00:11:40 Natashia Mack
Family really came together after the passing of my grandmother, you know, and of course, with those things, you know, with any kind of death, it really causes you to reflect and to realize what's truly important in life and.
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It makes you want to bring the people you love closer to you, things like that so.
00:12:01 Natashia Mack
You know, and then with all the stuff with my health, I had to rely on my family, had to rely on my community.
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I had to open up.
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I had to force myself to receive support and even financial support, even though that was really difficult for me.
00:12:20 Natashia Mack
It really showed me that I do have a community.
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I do have so many people around me who love me.
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It was really incredible.
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And I'm so grateful for it. You know, despite everything that I faced last year.
00:12:34 Natashia Mack
So anyways, for this year with nourish okay. So here's what I'm getting at.
00:12:40 Natashia Mack
I'm like, OK.
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Without forcing of.
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I'm like, what does that look like for me? Or, you know, what? Small steps can I start taking towards really embodying that word, really welcoming that word into my life, into my body, into my home?
00:12:58 Natashia Mack
And so something I want to start doing is cooking more.
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You know, cooking more for myself. Cook for more, for my family.
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Meaning eating way less significantly less like takeout and things like that.
00:13:15 Natashia Mack
And another thing is like really limiting.
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Coffee. So one thing I started I was actually gifted this.
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Really healthy coffee that has like all these incredible things in it.
00:13:32 Natashia Mack
It's not actually coffee.
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I don't think there's any caffeine.
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but it tastes like coffee.
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It's kind of like this muddy, watery coffee drink.
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Hey Cortana.
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Anyways and.
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Like I would love to just start replacing.
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You know, regular coffee with that or my mushroom coffee. Like I just wanna kind of switch certain things out for, like, healthier alternatives, but without going overboard.
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Because.
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Yeah, I I I you know, I wanna find balance with that and I don't.
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I still wanna live, obviously.
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And enjoy myself with food. And you know what?
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Consuming but.
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Still making sure that I'm just nourishing myself.
00:14:26 Natashia Mack
You know, maybe being more mindful of what I'm consuming in all aspects, right 'cause what we consume is not just food. It's what we listen to, what we see, what we hear, what we read, who we're around.
00:14:42 Natashia Mack
So all these things kind of you know.
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Are part of it as well.
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So.
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I'm yeah, I, you know, I have my word sort of as a guide, and I get to be intentional with it and.
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Open myself up to experience opportunities to nourish myself more.
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And to welcome more of that into my life and just be like mindful of that and actively also try to incorporate that into my life so.
00:15:18 Natashia Mack
You know.
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Whatever your word is, maybe it's just something you know.
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You don't have a word.
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Maybe this is gonna inspire you to open yourself up to receive your word.
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Or if you already have a word.
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You know, maybe it's something to just kind of sit with a little bit or just kind of play with a little.
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Like.
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How can I start?
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Actively.
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Incorporating this into my life or, you know, embodying it, that sort of thing, knowing that it's not just gonna get, like, plopped down on me and it's not gonna happen for me.
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It's not just gonna happen to me like I have a part to play in this, you know.
00:16:08 Natashia Mack
When I was really deep in like new age stuff.
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Not that I'm gonna like.
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Get too deep into.
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That's like a conversation for a whole other time.
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But I definitely.
00:16:29 Natashia Mack
Lived in a very delusional reality. And I mean, I think some delusion is actually healthy.
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Right, in order to.
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Really. Keep the faith and really have a vision and really like be like, no, this is gonna happen even if there's no evidence that's gonna happen.
00:16:51 Natashia Mack
What I mean by you know, a healthy dose of delusion, but for a long time I lived in a very unhealthy.
00:17:01 Natashia Mack
Delusional reality, where, like, I forgot that I actually had to.
00:17:08 Natashia Mack
Nourish and take care of this 3D reality that we're living in.
00:17:13 Natashia Mack
And I'm so grateful, so grateful, like praising God for plopping me down back on this earth. Although at the time it was.
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Just horrendous at the time it was like I literally just thought my whole entire world was falling apart.
00:17:31 Natashia Mack
And I mean, I guess that, yeah, that whole reality fell apart.
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Again I.
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I had no choice but to like face where I was and.
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To accept like.
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Oh yeah, I literally came here to this earth to experience life as a human.
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So I need to actually.
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Be a human and.
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Do very real life things and.
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Experience it all and blah blah blah.
00:18:02 Natashia Mack
Why did I bring that up again?
00:18:06 Natashia Mack
Oh yeah, yeah, basically just you know.
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I I had to first of all face.
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The consequences of me having lived in that delusional reality for so long.
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And.
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Everything that was sort of like waiting for me.
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You know for when I was ready to finally face it.
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And what else I had to see like talking about it makes me so anxious.
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So when my.
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Mind's going blank 'cause. I just hate revisiting that time of my life 'cause it just feels like a completely different lifetime.
00:18:57 Natashia Mack
And there was like 4 years ago.
00:19:03 Natashia Mack
Anyways, just being transparent with you guys, but.
00:19:08 Natashia Mack
Yeah.
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I don't even remember, so I'm just gonna take a moment to, like, ground.
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And breathe.
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It's wild.
00:19:24 Natashia Mack
It's wild how like just, you know, talking about certain periods of your life can.
00:19:30 Natashia Mack
Affect you like that?
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Anyways.
00:19:36 Natashia Mack
I feel like it would be really good to do a whole other episode where I talk about.
00:19:43 Natashia Mack
That time, but I would love like if anyone like maybe some of you went through it.
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You know like.
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Where you are super deep into new age and you just kind of.
00:20:01 Natashia Mack
Left that or like let go of a lot of things.
00:20:07 Natashia Mack
And this again, this isn't me.
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Bashing it or anyone who is super deep into new age, it's not that.
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Just like it just wasn't for me.
00:20:21 Natashia Mack
It just wasn't for.
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And it it's not for a lot of people and.
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I've personally experienced like.
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Spiritual psychosis and it just seems like so many others also experience.
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It When they're super deep into that.
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And I just found that.
00:20:47 Natashia Mack
Overtime, simplifying.
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My.
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Relationship with spirituality. Simplifying my spirituality in general and like my relationship with God the Creator. Like it's just.
00:21:03 Natashia Mack
Supported me in so many ways like I don't even know where to.
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With that.
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Like I don't even.
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Like a whole.
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Series probably, but I'm only going to talk about it if there's people who are actually interested in hearing more, or people who have questions.
00:21:18 Natashia Mack
Know what I mean?
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Like I want to make it worth it and know that it's actually going to be supported for some people.
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Anyways.
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I can't even remember how we got here, but I do OK.
00:21:32 Natashia Mack
So you know the part where.
00:21:37 Natashia Mack
Um.
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The message that was coming through about this here, right?
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Breaking free from the chains, but realizing you're the one who put the chains there and how there's like no magic pill, right?
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Like we act like.
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You actually have to.
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Put things in place like you actually have to make the phone calls. You actually have to do the thing, you know.
00:22:04 Natashia Mack
Like you have to go out and get it type of thing.
00:22:07 Natashia Mack
I.
00:22:08 Natashia Mack
I love how spirits just keeping it so simple and straightforward.
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Replay.
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I love that we love that.
00:22:16 Natashia Mack
And then the other thing.
00:22:18 Natashia Mack
The other.
00:22:18 Natashia Mack
I was coming through, OK.
00:22:21 Natashia Mack
So I started following this man.
00:22:25 Natashia Mack
Who?
00:22:27 Natashia Mack
His Instagram handle is.
00:22:29 Natashia Mack
Am done being obese, I think. I think that's what its handle is.
00:22:35 Natashia Mack
So he actually started his account on like January 1st I believe and that's when he decided like I'm done being obese.
00:22:45 Natashia Mack
I'm.
00:22:47 Natashia Mack
I'm gonna do something about it.
00:22:51 Natashia Mack
And he just.
00:22:53 Natashia Mack
I just love that spirit springing this up right now.
00:22:57 Natashia Mack
I love that.
00:22:59 Natashia Mack
He has just been so realistic about his journey.
00:23:08 Natashia Mack
Meaning he's setting himself up for success by creating these smaller.
00:23:15 Natashia Mack
Realistic and doable goals for himself. So like for example, he's not like immediately joining the gym and like going hard and like killing himself, you know, trying to lose weight he's he's like.
00:23:32 Natashia Mack
Again, doing this, realistically you gotta go check him out. I think his first video he's like literally walking.
00:23:41 Natashia Mack
Around the block or something like that, like that was his first goal.
00:23:45 Natashia Mack
I just wanna walk around the block everyday until.
00:23:50 Natashia Mack
Until I can do it, and then I'm gonna extend it right and like, that's how you actually set yourself up for success versus like shooting for the stars right away.
00:24:06 Natashia Mack
And then you like, burn yourself out or hurt yourself or whatever.
00:24:12 Natashia Mack
And you know, he's being so open and vulnerable and transparent and, you know, I think it was day six. He gave himself a rest day. And he explained the importance of a rest day.
00:24:25 Natashia Mack
You know, and I was just like, it's just been so beautiful to watch his journey. And I'm so curious if any of you are following him too.
00:24:33 Natashia Mack
Or maybe you logo follow him now, but like his account blew up because.
00:24:38 Natashia Mack
People are like wow, like he's so friggin inspiring.
00:24:42 Natashia Mack
And again, it's just so real.
00:24:47 Natashia Mack
And.
00:24:48 Natashia Mack
So now I want to.
00:24:49 Natashia Mack
Why spirit was bringing this up? Because.
00:24:53 Natashia Mack
There's clearly a reason for it.
00:24:56 Natashia Mack
Yeah, OK. This small, tangible, realistic goals.
00:25:01 Natashia Mack
So when Spirit's like take action like you got yourself into this own mess, it's into your own mess like it's time to, you know, go, go do the thing right.
00:25:11 Natashia Mack
No magic pill that's gonna do it for you. Like you got to do.
00:25:16 Natashia Mack
Make sure you are setting yourself up for success by.
00:25:23 Natashia Mack
Doing these smaller, more tangible goals and the example that's popping into my head right now is like, don't tell yourself you're never going to drink coffee again.
00:25:35 Natashia Mack
No, it's like.
00:25:37 Natashia Mack
It's like an addict's mindset of, like, just for today, like just for today, I'm going to have this dirt water coffee. It's really healthy.
00:25:46 Natashia Mack
Like just for, just for today I'm having.
00:25:49 Natashia Mack
And if tomorrow I decide I want a normal coffee, then that's totally fine, right?
00:25:54 Natashia Mack
We don't need to do any extremes here because that doesn't help anyone like extremes are not healthy at all.
00:26:02 Natashia Mack
Like, why don't you give yourself permission to try differently this time and ease into it?
00:26:08 Natashia Mack
Right. And so for I think his name is Nathan.
00:26:11 Natashia Mack
Oh my God. I really hope it is. I think it's Nathan anyways.
00:26:15 Natashia Mack
The man from I am done being obese on Instagram.
00:26:21 Natashia Mack
You know his.
00:26:24 Natashia Mack
Like his first steps were walking around the.
00:26:28 Natashia Mack
I don't even know if it was the full block or not, but anyways that was his first step.
00:26:33 Natashia Mack
That was like his first goal, and that may seem like not a big deal to a lot of people.
00:26:41 Natashia Mack
Like, no, he should push himself.
00:26:43 Natashia Mack
No, like, what if that for him is like such a big step?
00:26:50 Natashia Mack
What else is coming to mind is I don't know if you've ever seen shameless.
00:26:58 Natashia Mack
Oh my God. It doesn't mean you have to watch it, but Sheila from shameless.
00:27:02 Natashia Mack
So she has like, a severe.
00:27:05
Call.
00:27:05 Natashia Mack
Complex like.
00:27:06 Natashia Mack
Anxiety paranoia disorder where she can't leave the house, OK.
00:27:13 Natashia Mack
So what she did?
00:27:15 Natashia Mack
Was she set the small?
00:27:17 Natashia Mack
Small goals for like I'm going to take 10 steps outside today.
00:27:23 Natashia Mack
OK, she did her 10 steps and she celebrated herself and like that was this big deal.
00:27:27 Natashia Mack
Then the next day she did 15.
00:27:29 Natashia Mack
I don't know if that's actually how it was, but anyways.
00:27:32 Natashia Mack
It's just for the sake of the example that like.
00:27:37 Natashia Mack
She just made these smaller goals for herself that were actually attainable.
00:27:41 Natashia Mack
Were actually doable.
00:27:43 Natashia Mack
Were.
00:27:44 Natashia Mack
They were nourishing, you know, and they weren't extremes that actually set her back.
00:27:53 Natashia Mack
And eventually she got to like 250 steps or whatever.
00:28:00 Natashia Mack
And and you know, for her, it wasn't about losing weight or anything for her, it was about literally just.
00:28:07 Natashia Mack
Getting used to being out of the house again, right?
00:28:13 Natashia Mack
So that's gonna look so different for everyone. Even for myself. You know, I'm not, like, gonna be super strict or extreme with myself. 'cause. That wouldn't be healthy for me personally, especially as someone who's suffered in the past with Ed.
00:28:29 Natashia Mack
I need to make sure that I am setting myself up for success and not telling myself. You can never have this again or I'm totally cutting this out or whatever.
00:28:39 Natashia Mack
I have to do it in a way that's nourishing for me.
00:28:45 Natashia Mack
So yeah. So the other thing I'm seeing now, like in the vision, you know, 'cause the beginning, I said.
00:28:52 Natashia Mack
It's like this road and like as you're stepping forward, all this space is opening up.
00:28:58 Natashia Mack
All these like opportunities and possibilities are becoming available.
00:29:03 Natashia Mack
But what I just saw was like someone you know, they're taking these steps forward and all the space opens up and when you get there, you're like, Oh my God, I had no idea this was here.
00:29:13 Natashia Mack
I had no idea it could feel like this.
00:29:16 Natashia Mack
Had no idea it's like.
00:29:18 Natashia Mack
So you have no idea because you haven't been there yet.
00:29:24 Natashia Mack
But like it it is there and it is possible, but it's like gonna be better than you expected.
00:29:31 Natashia Mack
It's gonna be like nothing like you had expected.
00:29:36 Natashia Mack
Because how could you know if you haven't been there if you had? If you're not yet that version of yourself, you know.
00:29:43 Natashia Mack
If you haven't.
00:29:47 Natashia Mack
Yeah, taking those steps yet so.
00:29:51 Natashia Mack
I'm also seeing how as you do take those steps forward.
00:30:01 Natashia Mack
Fees.
00:30:04 Natashia Mack
These changes that happen, they're so significant that they're not only.
00:30:10 Natashia Mack
You know, revealing to you.
00:30:15 Natashia Mack
You know these opportunities or whatever.
00:30:19 Natashia Mack
Other things around you change that you had no idea would change.
00:30:24 Natashia Mack
Like for the best.
00:30:26 Natashia Mack
And like in positive ways, it's like you don't even realize the ripple effect.
00:30:32 Natashia Mack
That this one it's like you think.
00:30:36
You're.
00:30:37 Natashia Mack
How do I say that?
00:30:38 Natashia Mack
OK, for example, you are deciding.
00:30:42 Natashia Mack
Yeah, I'm gonna accept that position at this job.
00:30:45 Natashia Mack
And so you do it even though you are so scared to do.
00:30:48 Natashia Mack
You didn't think you're good enough, whatever, but you do it, and then all of a sudden, so many other things in your life start changing, like your family life gets better.
00:30:57 Natashia Mack
Bank account gets better.
00:31:01 Natashia Mack
Yes, it's more.
00:31:02 Natashia Mack
Maybe it's, you know, a little bit harder, something like that, I don't know, but.
00:31:08 Natashia Mack
It's like you notice like all these things that you didn't realize would change.
00:31:11 Natashia Mack
Do, but it's like for the better you know.
00:31:16 Natashia Mack
Like and, how would you have known that if you were to just stay stuck, like with your make believe chains stopping you right?
00:31:24 Natashia Mack
Sorry, it made me giggle a little bit 'cause I keep seeing someone like just literally, just like gently playing these chains around themselves.
00:31:33 Natashia Mack
Holding themselves back. So it's like they're imaginary. They're not real.
00:31:38 Natashia Mack
You're not stuck.
00:31:40 Natashia Mack
Type of thing.
00:31:42 Natashia Mack
Yeah, just like.
00:31:47 Natashia Mack
If you can't jump, take smaller steps.
00:31:50 Natashia Mack
You know, like how are you gonna master something? Unless you just.
00:31:56 Natashia Mack
Try like the baby version of.
00:31:57 Natashia Mack
You know, like you literally have to just start somewhere.
00:32:03 Natashia Mack
Another example that's coming to me.
00:32:07 Natashia Mack
Is how like for. Since like my God 20/17/2018, I'd say like still kind of in the beginning of my spiritual journey and my development journey as a medium.
00:32:21 Natashia Mack
I would get these visions of me in front of a very large audience like me, standing on a stage at like I don't wanna say a stadium, but just, you know, like a big arena or something. Like they're just being.
00:32:38 Natashia Mack
So many people there.
00:32:40 Natashia Mack
And.
00:32:41 Natashia Mack
This vision was just like a reoccurring thing, and it still is.
00:32:46 Natashia Mack
And I even had other people have this vision for me and bring it up to me, you know?
00:32:53 Natashia Mack
So it's just something that's just always sort of been there.
00:32:58 Natashia Mack
But it's like OK, but.
00:33:01 Natashia Mack
So, oh, I love this example.
00:33:03 Natashia Mack
So I could have either.
00:33:05 Natashia Mack
For the moment, where?
00:33:09 Natashia Mack
The opportunity came where I'm all of a sudden speaking in front of hundreds, maybe thousands.
00:33:15 Natashia Mack
Of people.
00:33:18 Natashia Mack
Or I could start to.
00:33:22 Natashia Mack
You know, start small with the smaller group.
00:33:26 Natashia Mack
Start speaking in front of you know, smaller groups of people and work my way up to that.
00:33:33 Natashia Mack
Right, which seems more realistic.
00:33:37 Natashia Mack
And so.
00:33:38 Natashia Mack
I just love that this is coming up because yeah, there's been many times where I've had these like visions or, you know, other people have had visions of them doing something, but then.
00:33:48 Natashia Mack
But then it's like they're waiting for it to happen versus, you know, actively following their intuitive nudges. Taking that action, you know, putting things in place to set them up for success so that they can eventually achieve that result or experience that vision, right.
00:34:05 Natashia Mack
So anyways, I started small, I started.
00:34:10 Natashia Mack
Speaking in front of you know, smaller groups of people, I remember being terrified of speaking in front of three people.
00:34:17 Natashia Mack
I did like a small group event. I called it a group event that's not a group event or like a group meeting in front of.
00:34:26 Natashia Mack
Three people that was like, so scary to me.
00:34:29 Natashia Mack
Like so.
00:34:31 Natashia Mack
But then I did it.
00:34:33 Natashia Mack
And I felt so much relief.
00:34:35 Natashia Mack
And I was like, wow, OK, I could do this, you know?
00:34:37 Natashia Mack
Then the next time it was 5 people.
00:34:40 Natashia Mack
And then the next time it was 10 people.
00:34:44 Natashia Mack
And you know, I stayed kind of there in my comfort zone for a while until eventually moved up to, you know, 1520. I think the most amount of people I've had in an event now has been 50. And that's like.
00:34:59 Natashia Mack
A lot, obviously.
00:35:00 Natashia Mack
So you know, my next goal is like.
00:35:05 Natashia Mack
I know 75.
00:35:06 Natashia Mack
80 I mean 100 would be really awesome.
00:35:10 Natashia Mack
Again, I want to be realistic with myself.
00:35:14 Natashia Mack
So like 75 would be incredible.
00:35:17 Natashia Mack
And eventually I'm just going to keep working my way up.
00:35:21 Natashia Mack
So the other thing is I've spoken.
00:35:27 Natashia Mack
On alive where there was like 150 people or, you know, even 200 people at one point.
00:35:35 Natashia Mack
But that's.
00:35:37 Natashia Mack
Different it really is because it's.
00:35:39 Natashia Mack
There's such a huge difference between being on alive.
00:35:44 Natashia Mack
Where you can't see everyone. You're not standing in front of them. You're not.
00:35:49 Natashia Mack
You know.
00:35:52 Natashia Mack
Yeah, that they can't see all of you and you can't see any of them.
00:35:57 Natashia Mack
There's such a huge difference between that and actually physically, energetically being in front of.
00:36:06 Natashia Mack
All those people so.
00:36:10 Natashia Mack
Yeah, it's a practice.
00:36:12 Natashia Mack
It's a practice, and eventually maybe I will master being in front of.
00:36:19 Natashia Mack
Lots of people.
00:36:21 Natashia Mack
I definitely get way less nervous now.
00:36:24 Natashia Mack
I notice though that like.
00:36:27 Natashia Mack
The more I do them, the less nervous I.
00:36:30 Natashia Mack
But then if I go a long time without doing 1, I get nervous, you know?
00:36:36 Natashia Mack
So last year, like in 2024, I was, I was doing them pretty.
00:36:42 Natashia Mack
Often because I had done a bunch.
00:36:46 Natashia Mack
The previous year in the.
00:36:47 Natashia Mack
So it's like I, yeah, I just did like, so many in a row and that really helped.
00:36:53 Natashia Mack
Then I notice like, wow, I'm not even nervous anymore. Like this is awesome.
00:36:57 Natashia Mack
Actually, just excited, you know, so.
00:37:00 Natashia Mack
But now it's been a while.
00:37:03 Natashia Mack
And so I'm probably going to be really nervous the next time, even if it is a small number of people you know, even if it's twenty people or whatever. Actually, even if it's just like a private session, I know I'm probably still going to get nervous but that.
00:37:18 Natashia Mack
It's nothing like what it was when I first started it.
00:37:22 Natashia Mack
So yeah, that's how I'm working towards that vision of potentially being in front of hundreds of people someday if I even get there.
00:37:35 Natashia Mack
But either way, I know that I'm meant to speak in front of people and that I really enjoy speaking in front of people, even if.
00:37:43 Natashia Mack
Even if I'm still really insecure about it and still lack confidence, I'm still doing it because I I just love it so much.
00:37:53 Natashia Mack
I love the work that I do and that's what carries me forward, you know.
00:38:00 Natashia Mack
That love and that passion for what I do and for being of service in that way and seeing how it impacts people, like that's what drives me forward.
00:38:10 Natashia Mack
Yes, it's so.
00:38:12 Natashia Mack
Yes, it would be quote UN quote easier, I guess, to not do it. But then is it actually easier if like you're not doing the thing you love and you're passionate about?
00:38:22 Natashia Mack
Don't know, I'm rambling now.
00:38:25 Natashia Mack
But I yeah, I.
00:38:27 Natashia Mack
Ended up talking about things I literally did not think I would talk about.
00:38:33 Natashia Mack
I didn't expect this episode at.
00:38:34 Natashia Mack
I thought it was going to be like 10.
00:38:36 Natashia Mack
15 minutes, but I hope you enjoyed it.
00:38:38 Natashia Mack
Hope you got something from it again.
00:38:41 Natashia Mack
New.
00:38:42 Natashia Mack
Thank you for being here.
00:38:45 Natashia Mack
As I mentioned before, like if you want to hear about those things, invite me. OK. The projector in me would love that very much so.
00:38:54 Natashia Mack
You know, to talk about just the whole.
00:38:58 Natashia Mack
Spiritual psychosis thing and how I let go of certain or why I don't know. Let go of of certain new age things and.
00:39:08 Natashia Mack
Yeah.
00:39:11 Natashia Mack
I don't know.
00:39:13 Natashia Mack
Unless they come up for a reason.
00:39:15 Natashia Mack
Anyways, I hope you have a wonderful week and I'm sending you so much love and I'll see you guys later. Bye.
The Hot Mess Medium Show Ep. 8 - Can you turn your abilities "off"?
Hey guys! In this episode I answer my most commonly asked question: Can you turn it off? “It” of course being, my abilities.
Do I see dead people everywhere?
Do I have a posse of Spirits around me?
Am I constantly ON, open and reading people's minds!?
I share a lot about my development journey, going from having zero boundaries with Spirit to where I am now, plus my own personal views on some of the icky things that go down in the Spiritual space, as well as some grounding tips and tricks.
For upcoming events, private readings & more info on how you can have your questions answered in the podcast, go to: www.mediumnatashiamack.com
The Hot Mess Medium Show Ep. 7 - Premonitions coming true!? & Strangers being messengers from Spirit!? Plus a life update & seeing the bigger picture!
A lil life update, my experience with a recent premonition dream (hint: car accident), the wild story about how I found out about the cancer in my neck & a powerful message about how your current challenges are part of a much bigger picture.
For upcoming events, private readings & more info on how you can have your questions answered in the podcast, go to: www.mediumnatashiamack.com